User talk:Sigeng

Ray Comfort Books

Hi Sigeng,

I added back the list of books for Ray Comfort.

I don't think the consensus is right in saying that a small selection of books should be posted. Wikipedia is a tool for everyone who wants to look Ray Comfort up and see ALL the books that have been written by him. Otherwise, if someone wants to see if Ray wrote X book, goes on Wikipedia and doesn't see it listed, may think that he wasn't the author for it.

I'd appreciate if we can leave the list (even if extensive) as is. After all, he is a writer and best-seller author.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brambmanu (talk • contribs) 17:04, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but no. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. On the article's talk page, you will no one calling for a complete list of Comfort's books, and many instances over time calling for the list to be cut.

It is easy to find exhaustive lists of information such as all of Comfort's books (Amazon for example). A short list of books which best represent his views and contributions is more valuable information - more signal, less noise. The subheading clearly indicates the list is selected and elsewhere the article says he wrote 70 books and tracts, so it is not misleading. Also, I do not believe Comfort has ever made a bestseller list so his claim to being a bestselling author may be dubious. (Which book was bestselling?)

-Sigeng (talk) 20:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brambmanu, I checked your edit history and said to another user that you are a personal assistant to Ray Comfort. As such you have a financial conflict of interest in editing Ray Comfort's article, since advocating for him is part of your job. You may wish to review Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy.

-Sigeng (talk) 20:21, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sigeng,

Thank you for your comments.

You said, "I do not believe Comfort has ever made a bestseller list." Wikipedia is not for believing or not, it is for facts. Right?

Regarding the "best-selling author" claim:

<< The most straightforward measure of bestseller status would seem to be the number of copies a book actually sells. However, there is no magic number that people in the publishing industry agree should equal “bestseller.” Some say it’s 10,000 copies. Some say 35,000.>> http://www.laeditorsandwritersgroup.com/what-is-a-bestseller/

Hell’s Best Kept Secret has sold well over 100,000 copies.

Thank you.

2014 March

Sigeng,

please tell me which sources re John G Lake you feel that I need to provide and I can paste them back into this section. The message you left on my talk page did not really specify what you wanted me to give you

Barry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barry Morton (talk • contribs) 22:35, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sigeng,

ok, I can easily find the source material (prob all from newspapers going on memory) on all these statements. If I have time tonight I will add them. Tommorrow is more likely, but I will add soon.

Re Burpeau, yes, he went to extensive lengths to find out about the "seminary" in Newberry, MI, and found out that it did not exist. The local Methodist church historian told him about a "sunday school" that existed, and Burpeau maintained that this is what Lake attended. In any case, this did not happen. I read through the Newberry newspaper for the relevant years and Lake was not at the Sunday school, nor was he ever in Newberry. His wife was from Newberry, but the newspaper indicates that she and her mother left her father (marital separation?) and moved to Sault Ste Marie, where the Stephens family lived a couple of doors down from the Lakes. I don't know how much you care, but check their original houses at Google Street View, 705 Bingham Ave, Sault Ste Marie, Lake house is green.

Burpeau's book is full of things like this--every time he finds that Lake did not do as he claimed, he creates a cover tale for him. Dozens of instances of this. Anyway, I have a lot of new material on Lake.

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Barry Morton, Wikipedia is arcane. The comment above was "DPL bot" complaining about another edit I made to the Mark Driscoll page. You probably have my talk page on a watchlist because you've written on it before, so it notifies you of changes even if you don't care. It will probably be less annoying to not have my Talk page on your watchlist. -Sigeng (talk) 19:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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