User talk:Black Kite/Archive 51
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Remark
Hi Black Kite, I didn't want to clutter up the ArbCom page or make a big deal of it, but I noticed you said: "his clearly entrenched minority POV on some subjects ends up causing problems." What happens when there's a clearly entrenched majority POV at Wikipedia? It seems to just sail along without sanctions or the like, prevailing more and more often as it succeeds in getting people like North topic-banned. Do you think so? Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:15, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- There's a difference between minority and majority, and "fringe". Perhaps I should have used that phrasing instead. Certainly the example I am familiar with (Homophobia) featured North arguing ad nauseam for a very fringe view on the topic (he was effectively trying to claim that the article shouldn't be called Homophobia, because it was pejorative). That sort of thing gets very tiring very quickly especially when there is a clear consensus that it isn't going to happen. Black Kite (talk) 11:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've actually been thinking about getting involved in that topic. I have always taken an interest in BLPs, and a lot of them state as fact that so-and-so is homophobic. It seems to be the current scarlet letter. The term is kind of screwy, kind of like saying that the US was Nazi-phobic during WWII (again with the Nazis!). I don't think the US was ever Nazi-phobic, more like Nazi-opposing or Nazi-condemning. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what ArbCom does with North. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:11, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- The problem there is that Homophobia is the common name used by pretty much every reliable source for anti-homosexual feeling or statements. As a citation-based encyclopedia, we have to reflect that, and we certainly can't ignore it on the basis of semantics. Yes, using the -phobia suffix is inherently problematic, but we have to reflect common usage, not what we would like common usage to be. See also: Xenophobia, for example. Black Kite (talk) 19:16, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- Good point about xenophobia. Something for me to think about. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:34, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- The problem there is that Homophobia is the common name used by pretty much every reliable source for anti-homosexual feeling or statements. As a citation-based encyclopedia, we have to reflect that, and we certainly can't ignore it on the basis of semantics. Yes, using the -phobia suffix is inherently problematic, but we have to reflect common usage, not what we would like common usage to be. See also: Xenophobia, for example. Black Kite (talk) 19:16, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've actually been thinking about getting involved in that topic. I have always taken an interest in BLPs, and a lot of them state as fact that so-and-so is homophobic. It seems to be the current scarlet letter. The term is kind of screwy, kind of like saying that the US was Nazi-phobic during WWII (again with the Nazis!). I don't think the US was ever Nazi-phobic, more like Nazi-opposing or Nazi-condemning. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what ArbCom does with North. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:11, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
cheerleading girls
Do you have the Cheerleaders page?!?! The "User:Black Kite/Cheerleaders" page I really want. I heard it has girls in it! (really i need extra info on them) 67.82.89.253 (talk) 01:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)