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Sources

There is a huge amount of unsourced material here. Almost every fact on the page is unsourced. In fact, the entire article seems to be compromised of Original research and unverifiable facts. And there seems to be opinions strewn throughout the article. Cleanup needed desperately. 68.199.208.46 (talk) 02:50, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Age

How long do they live? And how can you tell how old they are?

Chows are like any other animal, the length of their age depends a lot on how well they are taken care of and their overall health. I think generally they live anywhere from 12 to 16 years, with most seeing at least 14. Of course that's only an approximation, a lot of factors can go into how long they'll live. Chows seem to start developing gray hair at around 7, but other than that I'm not sure how you'd gauge the age. The best bet is to consult a local vet.--Brownings (talk) 12:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Like cats

Could anyone expand on this? I've read in forums that they're like cats because, although they bond with people, are very independent. Is this what the sentence mean? You will not find your chow chow jumping on kitchen counters or poncing onto you. But to answer your question, yes, their independence is what makes them cat-like. They are self thinkers. They decide when they want to do something. They will let you know when they want affection. They can be in the same room with you, but not necessary under your feet. They are very lazy, but they love their family. If you have ever had a cat and dog, then you have seen the difference between them. A dog wants to please you. A dog likes learning new commands, etc. A cat, however, will train you to suit their needs. That's how I think a chow chow relates closer to the cat-like personality. You need to be aware of this or you may find your chow chow a little bossy. The chow chow can be such a very well behaved dog, that you may think it doesn't really need obedience training. However, it probably needs as much as any other dog breed and it also needs socialization from a young age too. The cat-like personality makes you think it doesn't need as much training or socialization, but your chow chow will think for taking the time. And you will be glade you did. That way your chow chow will know who is boss (YOU). September 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.5.160 (talk) 14:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Color of Chow Chow in the Picture

It's mislabeled. The chow chow in the photo is considered "red" by AKC standards. http://www.akc.org/breeds/chow_chow/ Generally "red" chow's are blond with some red highlights. Cream chow's are solid blond. Cinnamon chow's are more brown than the one pictured. The chow chow in the photo is clearly a "red" chow by breed standards and has been mislabeled by someone who doesn't understand the coloring. Agrippina Minor (talk) 05:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, while I'm sure they're very sweet dogs, the dogs pictured in the "Appearance" section and the one characterized as an "old chow" don't have faces characteristic of the modern chow standard. I would favor replacing them with some more representative photos. John2510 (talk) 03:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I substituted a more representative chow photo for the "distinctive features." One in profile with the back leg structure and tail would be better yet... but there isn't one in the wikimedia commons at this point. The picture of the old chow is kind of blurry and not representative. It should probably be removed or replaced. John2510 (talk) 18:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edible chows vs. Shar pei

When I got a chow/shepherd mix, I look both chow chow and shar pei up on some web pages. I found some that had almost identical info but the breeds reversed (one said chows were noble hunting/family protection dogs and the shar pei was just bred for food, while the other page had almost exact wording but in reverse). This article looks well written, but is there any confusion on the origin of these two breeds?--Paddling bear (talk) 03:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page is terrible when it comes to wikipedia standards.

Because of this I've added the original research template. The only great part of this page is the history part, there are references. Until I see more references, I wouldn't trust any of the information you read on this page. Especially "However, displays of timidity and aggression are uncharacteristic of well-bred and well-socialized specimens", where is the research? 69.5.227.71 (talk) 11:33, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are no scholars wasting grant dollars to research and write peer-reviewed articles on the temperment of any one specific breed of dog. The information on this page is likely garnered through years of EXPERIENCE living and training this breed. So calm down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.90.27 (talk) 22:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the Dog articles are in a similar condition with respect to citations. I am currently working on the Shetland Sheepdog page with respect to clean up and citations, it IS POSSIBLE to cite information and it doesn't need to be direct from research papers. While years of experience is nice, unfortunately you still need to reference it from somewhere (a book, a website, something!). It is a pain, I know! It does need citations for all information regardless of how much experience any one person may be relying on. I would swap the original research template for the needs more citations template. Cheers, Keetanii (talk) 08:49, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, "experience" usually isn't good on wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No_original_research for more information. ItsWolfeh (talk) 04:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "However, displays of timidity and aggression are uncharacteristic of well-bred and well-socialized specimens" statement is very accurate, and can easily be sourced back to the Chow Chow Club of America's written standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.97.171.72 (talk) 16:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Temperament section of every dog breed article in Wikipedia appears to have been written by fans or breeders of that breed, none of them have anything negative to say about the intelligence or aggressiveness of the dog. Seeing time and time again "This breed is well behaved if it's well-bred and well-socialized" seems redundant and biased. I've seen in multiple outside sources that Chow Chows are considered one of the least intelligent dog breeds, but that doesn't show up here.

Flealess?

I have read in a book about dogs that Chows are the only dogs that have no fleas. Is this true? 156.8.251.250 (talk) 06:59, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A simple google search would say no, they are not flealess. I'm actually reading that fleas are very hard to get rid of when they get on a chow, probably because of the double coat, and they love the environment. ItsWolfeh (talk) 01:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

depends - for the short hair chows (smooth coat kind) - they can have fleas and they are very easy to eliminate with the usual pharmaceutical products — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.27.15.5 (talk) 21:24, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pablo Neruda

was another famous chow chow owner. Actually his famous poem 'a dog has died' was dedicated to his chow chow, as it is quite obvious for anyone who is familiar with the character of the breed. This is proved by this http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwi210CkxS1r3isexo1_500.jpg photo. This fact is in my opinion quite important, firstly for the relevance of the owner, secondly because it is probably the only documented poetic composition dedicated to this breed.

DrEnrico (talk) 19:10, 10 November 2012 (UTC)DrEnrico[reply]