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confirmation of the taxonomic limits of this map?

Global diversity of Tipulidae

It is unclear whether this map shows Tipulidae in the strict sense, or Tipulids, Limoniids, Pediciids, etc. It would be helpful to link it to a source, if only to confirm that this is not original research. Dyanega (talk) 00:33, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually, I tracked it to the source, and this is a graph of fresh-water species of all four families, not just Tipulidae; it shouldn;t be used for either this page or the Tipuloidea page, as it indicates ONLY freshwater species, which is a fraction of the species diversity, and very misleading compared to global diversity. Dyanega (talk) 00:36, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • I wonder what you “tracked to the source”. The map is based on the data in table 1: line Tipulidae sensu stricto. Cylindrotomidae, Limoniidae and Pediciidae are not included. Moreover this table represents counts of all representatives not only feshwater ones. Mithril (talk) 21:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Diet of Adults

I have some concern with the statement "Though they have been seen consuming other insects like yellow jackets" with the simple reference "seen by Thomas White in Des Moines, Iowa." Who is Thomas White? Are there photographs to confirm this? Did the crane fly actively hunt down and kill the yellow jacket? Or did it come across the body and take the opportunity to gain nutrients? Chytrid Wm (talk) 21:02, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was vandalism by User:Tearjay-- OBSIDIANSOUL 21:13, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Chytrid Wm (talk) 21:45, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

big flying black and red bug with what looks like a huge stinger.

Where you might usually expect to see bees we have instead this larger, black, slender bodied bug with black transparent wings and a black, stinger type appendage sticking out from its rear end. I've seen many of them. Living in Looe, Cornwall. Very near salt water and fresh water a plenty. We have many flowers and should have many bees but I think maybe these little flying devils have done for our happy bees. They are VERY UNPLEASANT to look at - much less when they seem to love landing on you and hitching a ride. Since their 'stinging' appendage is long and menacing you just want rid of it off your back or leg but so far they don't seem to sting humans. Could they be what has killed off our bees. Maybe even wasps. There are pictures similar all over these pages but I haven't yet seen 'my' bug. There is a picture of one insect killing another smaller one of its own type by the look of it in the picture. There is a very perturbed chap who sent in similar pictures to the one at the bottom of our road in Looe, but none yet of the actual bug we have. Could be it is rapidly still changing. Every birth slightly different from the last but I've seen this one for about 3 years now. Not the very same bug,but the same type. Your pictures are similar but don't have the stinger. There is one seemingly head on to the camera which is the closest yet. I'll try to get a picture in spring/ summer this year coming. I honestly believe its been imported, adapted, evolved and until they begin stinging people are viewed as a curiosity and no more............ Watch the bug space for news as this grows.In size and occurrence................ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.79.217 (talk) 23:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't sound like Tipulidae, but I am not an expert in the group. Try posting the picture up on a site like iNaturalist.org or submitting it to Bug Guide. TelosCricket (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

as a complete amateur i was confused by the article's description of the snaout. in one paragraph it is long. in the next it is short to very short. ? Daiyounger (talk) 18:24, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]