Talk:Party of Slovenian People

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By economic orientation they are center left. (far right parties are libertal parties)

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I could find no source whatsoever that the party was originally founded in 1945. Instead, a reliable source says that the party has its roots in the far-right party Slovenian National Right, which was transformed and renamed after the failure at the 1996 parliamentary election - see Trplan, Tomaž (2005). "Slovenia". In Mudde, Cas (ed.). Racist Extremism in Central and Eastern Europe. Routledge. pp. 225–246. ISBN 9781134252534. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help) SNR itself was established after a split from Slovenian National Party in 1993. User:Jazbar keeps removing this information (among others) without any explanation, which I suspect is an attempt of whitewashing. I'd like to avoid edit-warring so I'm inviting other editors to weigh in. — Yerpo ^Eh? 07:43, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: it also appears that the user wanted to scare me at his user page. — Yerpo ^Eh? 07:46, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yerpo, which reliable source? Are those successors of the totalitarian Communist regime still on power, your extreme left Anarchy friends? Party of Slovenian People (SSN) has nothing to do with right nacionalism! SSN is not ideological political party! SSN represent all Slovenian people regardless of their personal view (liberal, libertarian, socialist, conservative etc.) refuse to dealing with any of extremists left or right. SSN is a modern political party of national reconciliation, without any of ideological lumber (www.ssn.si). Source of the history of the Party of Slovenian People are testimonials from the people and documentary of the RTV Ljubljana from the 20th century early 80s, when first time Dachau trials was mentioned ever in the public. Since the most members of the Party of Slovenian People from the period 1945-1946 were executed by totalitarian Communists regime and documentation destroyed, off course its hard to find evidences.

P.S. Regarding the thought I wrote and "Yerpo" is scared by. I still think that pack of users which previously arranged attack with the sole purpose to violate right information and politically retaliates with Party of Slovenian People is by all legal definitions criminal act. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazbar (talk • contribs) 09:22, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a source for the disputed 1945 and 1946 dates in the article, please cite it in the article. Information should be supported by reliable sources. If you also have a source that contradicts the material from the cited Routledge book and the news sources (Finance, 24ur, Dnevnik), please cite it or explain why the cited book and the news sources are not reliable sources. Doremo (talk) 10:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The current party has nothing to do with the alleged group with a similar name in 1945. It's as if I started a political party under inspiration by the ducal inauguration in Carantania, then start to claim that we were founded in the 15th century. So please, User:Jazbar, start selling those fantasies somewhere else. This is an encyclopedia, not an outlet for political propaganda. The fact that SSN was formed out of the right-wing extremist party Slovenian National Right is documented in an academic source, the one you removed trying to conceal the verifiable facts. You will have to do much better than quoting irrelevant documentaries and posing empty threats to convince us otherwise. — Yerpo ^Eh? 15:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: SSN is labeled as nationalistic in reputable sources like The New York Times (among other, Slovenian sources which you also removed) so please spare us your empty words about how progressive it is and how I'm an evil communist because I don't buy it. Among other serious violations of Wikipedia principles, you're making personal attacks, which alone is a ground for revoking your editing rights. But I'm not a hateful person, so I'm giving you one more chance to start debating this subject as an adult (which includes leaving referenced content alone until better references are found). — Yerpo ^Eh? 16:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If Eugen Brcic a Croat said in NYT that Party of Slovenian People is nationalist political party that must be true!? Is this source really best you can do, why don't you try harder!? SSN is proud to oppose Croatian aggression on Slovenian land. BTW Croats invade and occupy a half of Piran municipality but god forbid if someone oppose that fact. Is not an issue politics but Andrej Sisko of which SSN was victim and must persecute him in the court of law, and your other fabrications like SNN has had connections with cheering group Viole... The problem is that you left extremist deliberately confuse patriotism with nationalism and claim that Communism was not bad and the victims of such totalitarianism are deserve to be terrorized or killed. Dear Yerpo, Not that you are evil as you are rotten.