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Talk:Bearded Tit#Protected edit request on 2 June 2014
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bearded Tit#Protected edit request on 2 June 2014. Apparently this is now a double redirect. Bearded Tit -> Bearded Reedling -> Bearded reedling Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 01:54, 2 June 2014 (UTC)Template:Z48
Holy Donut
can u help make it better? Hookcross23 (talk) 15:25, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
How similar is the current J$EAN to what you just deleted? Chris857 (talk) 16:27, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
This has just sprung up. Thanks, Matty.007 16:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Notable Things
How do I indicate that my subject is noteable? Thanks, TheDaJakester — Preceding undated comment added 17:23, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- By citing reliable, independent sources (see WP:V) that show the subject is notable per our guidelines at WP:BIO. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Once the movie is out
Once the movie has been played in the cinema and released on dvd, could I then have my article back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lundons Bridge and The Three Keys (talk • contribs) 19:16, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- If it is covered by reliable independent sources, WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
A few published articles does not make the person notable. Surprised you declined CSD based on Wikipedia:Notability_(academics). I assume the next step would be an AfD? EvergreenFir (talk) 20:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- It may or may not make him notable, but yes, it avoids *speedy* deletion. An AFD is indeed the next step. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:41, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Okay thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) 20:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Nadia lebrun
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A tag has been placed on Nadia lebrun requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.
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Vidya Niket
You've just deleted our page and the reason given was it was advertising. It was not advertising but just general information. Before creating the page we checked numerous pages of similar type. You can refer to few pages given - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Angels_High_School, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Public_School,_Gwalior. If our page can not be published then can you please explain what is the reason for these pages to continue. Anurag gupta17 (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Vidya Niket Anurag gupta17 (talk) 15:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Unlike those articles, your article had promotional language like "The mission and implementation of our goals are guided by some of the most outstanding and accomplished individuals in India and abroad" and "the school campus abounds in natural splendour". You were writing the page as if it were a mirror of the school's own website, rather than a neutral encyclopedia article. See WP:NPOV and WP:SPAM. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Before writing to you we made these two changes in the text but before publishing you had already deleted the page.
If we make these modifications then will it pass through your standard criterion ? If yes could you please help us to retrieve the text so that we can make necessary changes. Anurag gupta17 (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- I've moved the deleted text to your userspace at User:Anurag gupta17/Vidya niket. Let me know when you've edited it and I'll take a look at it. Please make sure that all promotional language is removed. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:55, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Also note that you need to find reliable independent sources, see WP:V, to show that the school is notable per WP:ORG. The school's own website is not independent. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Deletion of Minus33 Clothing
I am writing to inquire why you deleted the page I wrote about Minus33 Merino Wool Clothing. The reason you supplied was advertising, but it was not. It was modeled very similarly to LL Bean, Icebreaker, and SmartWool. Many of those companies have pages outlining their history, product line, and competition, as we did. If it is OK for those companies to have pages, it should be allowable that a 90+ year old company have one as well. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csexton25 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Vidya Niket
* I have made the necessary changes. Could you please have a look and check. Thanks
- I have made a new page under Vidya Niket (the previous one was Vidya niket). The contents of both the pages are exactly same. Once you have a look and satisfied could you please delete the Vidya niket page and leave Vidya Niket. Thanks. Anurag gupta17 (talk) 02:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Could you please delete Vidya_niket (User:Anurag gupta17/Vidya_niket) permanently as it is still showing in Google Look up ? Thanks. The Page Vidya_Niket is working fine. Thanks for your support. Anurag gupta17 (talk) 11:41, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Fast Deletion Page
Hello,
A while ago a page of mine was deleted because it was not clear what the encyclopedic relevance was. I would like to ask what i could do to prevent this in the future.
Greetings, Finn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fboeft (talk • contribs) 06:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- You would need to cite reliable independent sources (see WP:V) to show that this club is notable per our standards at WP:ORG. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:15, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Company Wikipedia page deleted
Hello,
I noticed that a few days ago, my company's Wikipedia article was deleted because the user who created the page was either blocked or banned.
Here is the original link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDSI_(company)
What steps can I do to recover the content from the article?
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanafan (talk • contribs) 16:01, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- That user was blocked as a sockpuppet of a paid editing firm. I've restored the text of the article to your userspace at User:Shanafan/EDSI (company). As you might expect from a paid editor, the text is inappropriately promotional. See WP:SPAM and WP:NPOV. We discourage people from writing about their own companies, see WP:COI. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for restoring the content. I will view the supplied informative links. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanafan (talk • contribs) 17:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
the Lotus and the Storm
I think you deleted the page just created because the note says it looks like the page was used for advertising rather than a encyclopedia type of document. This is a book and the page was simply describing the book. here's the link to another book that appears in Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Love This wasn't deleted, so I assume it conforms to whatever your policy is.
I'm not sure why what was created was deemed "advertising." Could you explain and help? Is it the format? Is it because the content didn't have "boxes" ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Connghe (talk • contribs) 18:46, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Because, unlike The History of Love, the Lotus page is promotional, with language like "The Lotus and the Storm moves forward with a plot that is filled with action but is also deeply reflective about how one makes one’s way through the discordance of life in search of home and peace.", as well as a set of blurbs from other authors. Please see WP:SPAM and WP:NPOV. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:49, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Minus33 Again
Why did you delete the Minus33 page re-write? There was no advertising in it at all. The page was completely factual and had the history of a textile mill from 1916. This company is a great historical example of the textile manufacturing business in America. Can you please give some insight as to why it was deleted again?Csexton25 (talk) 19:36, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- "some of the most distinguished manufacturers and retailers". Also, there are other problems: (1) the description is almost all about the Packard company rather than Minus33; (2) the article cites no reliable, independent sources (see WP:V) to show that Minus33 (as opposed to Packard) is notable per WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Fast Deletion
Hello, You recently deleted the Cerego page in wiki. Not sure the reasoning behind this. This company has been around since 2000, has raised $30million+ and have strategic partnerships with the Gates Foundation, etc. All this has been referenced. Could you please explain why you deleted and how to fix the article so it works? This company recently moved from Japan to the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart.fm Thanks Williefoxtrot (talk) 20:43, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- The article was promotional. "Cerego’s patented technology enables users to learn information quickly and track their progress within a personalized “Memory Bank”, a visualization of learning progress that maps activation and memory strength across all courses and individual items studied. The Memory Bank makes learning and re-learning more efficient and effective by surfacing a granular, real-time understanding of the learning and forgetting progress for each unique learner." This reads like advertising copy. See WP:SPAM and WP:NPOV. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:11, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Would it be better to use spaced rehearsal instead of the description of the memory bank? This is pulled from press/references written about Cerego. So don't reference the references? Williefoxtrot (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:16, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- What you need are *independent* references (i.e., not press releases) that discuss Cerego and show that it is notable per WP:CORP. If there aren't any independent sources, then there shouldn't be an article on this company just yet. See WP:RS. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Could you define "independent source" These references are not press releases, they are written by journalists. Thanks. Williefoxtrot (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Again, our sourcing guidelines are at WP:RS. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
George Kerr Mackie
You deleted an article about George Kerr Mackie who is a historical figure with references, who house is on the protected historical sites of Kansas and who had references. We had an intro to wikipedia course today and you deleted the work of a 12 year old girl who is learning to use wikipedia. Please restore the article.
Here is the source : http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/m3/mackie_george_k.html from Kansas: a cyclopedia of state history, embracing events, institutions, industries, counties, cities, towns, prominent persons, etc.
Here is the letter about the significance of including his in the national registry of historical places: http://www.kshs.org/resource/national_register/nominationsNRDB/Douglas_MackieGeorgeKHouseNR.pdf Criterion A : "for the reflection of the commercial success of the entrepreneur George Mackie".
thanks mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 23:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Mr. Mackie's house is notable for being on the National Register of Historic Places, but I don't see how Mr. Mackie himself is notable per our guidelines at WP:BIO. Please read those and let me know how you think he qualifies. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 12:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- As I said, his house qualifies because of his success at least according to the National Register of Historic Places. I already said that, (A. That are associated with events that have made a significant contribution to the broad patterns of our history;) So his commercial success was what made him notable. And please, for the sake of a first time editor, if you are going to keep it deleted, can you at least restore the article in HaseBears userspace and explain to the 12 year old girl what when wrong. I am doing a course on Wikipedia over the summer with these kids and I dont want to have to have them type it in again. We can put his son under his fathers page which is already notable. Here are some more citations for him : The Bulletin. Concatenated Order of Hoo-Hoo. 1905. pp. 2–. Nelson Sutro Greensfelder; Harry Roberts (Jr.) (1952). The Explosives Engineer. Hercules Powder Company. John W. Leonard (1925). Who's who in Finance, Banking and Insurance: A Biographical Dictionary of Contemporaries. Who's who in finance, incorporated.Frank Wilson Blackmar (1912). Kansas: A Cyclopedia of State History, Embracing Events, Institutions, Industries, Counties, Cities, Towns, Prominent Persons, Etc. ... with a Supplementary Volume Devoted to Selected Personal History and Reminiscence. Standard publishing Company. pp. 471–.
- I've moved the deleted article to User:Hasebear/George Kerr Mackie and posted a note to Ms. Hasebear. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:07, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! James Michael DuPont (talk) 23:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Someone you've been dealing with?
The Be Sharps (1986 band) (talk · contribs) —SMALLJIM 15:20, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yup, thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 16:02, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Company Article deletion, A7
Hello, I was trying to create a previously deleted by you page about a Company named "Stand Up Guys Junk Removal" Can you give me some advice on how to rewrite the article so it can be accepted? Maybe you can drill down that A7 reason so I can focus on what to remove/add. Thanks for your time, --Changocz (talk) 19:42, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- You would need to show that the company is notable per our guidelines at WP:CORP, and you would need to cite reliable independent sources (see WP:V) that demonstrate its notability. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:18, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Bluepoint Delete
Hey there, this article was my first one so the writing isn't all that good. I hadn't read some of the other Wiki guidelines but I do see that the company isn't notable enough for an article at least at this point. It was kinda hard to make it neutral since pretty much everything I found was promotional and I don't know a whole lot about the company either, but thanks for your time.
And no, I was not paid to write that article. Jdb213 (talk) 22:04, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Simpsons
Thanks for correcting my recent block. here is another one. —DoRD (talk) 13:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks!NawlinWiki (talk) 13:21, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
This diff is when I reverted you restoring an old warning onto this talk page contrary to WP:DRC. Thanks. 85.210.176.206 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Move protection on
Hi NawlinWiki,
The logs show that you move-protected Kernel (computing) back in 2009. I was wondering if that move protection can be undone now; I'm asking here because I've no idea about the correct procedure for this kind of thing. (I want to rename the page because there are multiple meanings of "kernel" in computing, as the dab page Kernel shows.) QVVERTYVS (hm?) 10:19, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- Reduced to semi-move protection. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 11:45, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
P1M
You have deleted P1M's page on the basis that the company is not notable but I have provided multiple mention's of the company in various third party sources and the Page is neutral. Please explain how many references are required, thank you EditorialExpert (talk) 14:41, 9 June 2014 (UTC)Editorial ExpertEditorialExpert (talk) 14:41, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- There have to be multiple (i.e., 2 or more) independent (not PR or the company's own page) reliable (see WP:RS) sources that discuss P1M itself (not its clients, or the famous people who its clients have done makeup for) and show that P1M is notable per WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
I have provided several of these citations, McInnes, Gail (2012), Interview with an Artist Manager, FashionMagnet, retrieved May 22, 2014, "TFI News". Toronto Fashion Incubator. 2009. 'Page One Management Helmed by Diana Carrelli and Nanci Vennittelli, the newly launched Page One Management artist agency already boasts a roster of some of Canada's top hair and makeup artists and fashion stylists, including Greg Wencel, Tony Masciangelo, Simone Otis and Fashion magazine's Susie Sheffman...'
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