User talk:Turgan/Archive 2
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Water supply and sanitation in the Palestinian territories
Coould you explain what you found nonconstructive about my edit which you reverted? An opinion from an advocacy group was presented as fact in Wikipedia's voice, I attributed it to the group. Here come the Suns (talk) 18:28, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- You need to add a reference for that statement. Just saying "according to ..." is not good enough. Turgan Talk 18:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is a refernce threre - [1] which points to " Dispossession and Exploitation: Israel's Policy in the Jordan Valley and Northern Dead Sea, p. 24-26. B'Tselem, May 2011" Here come the Suns (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out the reference. I will stand by my revision, though, as your edit does not really add anything other than unnecessary bias and personal opinion to the statement. Turgan Talk 20:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, is it "my opinion" that this statement is attributable to Btselem, or is that a fact? Shouldn't opinions by advocacy groups be attributed to them? Here come the Suns (talk) 20:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that the reference to the statement is from B'Tselem attributes it to them without needing to add "according to ...". What I considered the personal opinion was the comment due to what they say. What this in effect does is imply they said this, but I don't necessarily agree or they are wrong. Both are unnecessary additions and take away from, rather than add to the flow of the article. Turgan Talk 20:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, maybe I have this wrong. Prior to making this edit, I edited Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States - https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States&diff=prev&oldid=611411309, to remove a similar "what he describes". This was promptly reverted by an editor Sean Holyland, who added it back with a comment that it needs to be "properly attributed". So I did the same here - and it is again reverted? Why? Here come the Suns (talk) 20:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that the reference to the statement is from B'Tselem attributes it to them without needing to add "according to ...". What I considered the personal opinion was the comment due to what they say. What this in effect does is imply they said this, but I don't necessarily agree or they are wrong. Both are unnecessary additions and take away from, rather than add to the flow of the article. Turgan Talk 20:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, is it "my opinion" that this statement is attributable to Btselem, or is that a fact? Shouldn't opinions by advocacy groups be attributed to them? Here come the Suns (talk) 20:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out the reference. I will stand by my revision, though, as your edit does not really add anything other than unnecessary bias and personal opinion to the statement. Turgan Talk 20:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is a refernce threre - [1] which points to " Dispossession and Exploitation: Israel's Policy in the Jordan Valley and Northern Dead Sea, p. 24-26. B'Tselem, May 2011" Here come the Suns (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
you suck
btw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.7.60.54 (talk) 15:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your useful contribution. Turgan Talk 17:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Turgan,
Actually I am the person who does PR for Drew and Shannon. They never authorized this page nor do they approve of the content and so I pulled all of it.
We would prefer the page be deleted because they no longer go by Drew and Shannon; however, if that cannot happen, would you please leave all of the area blank until we can re-edit it?
Thanks,
SRW — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southsideworldwide (talk • contribs) 18:59, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hi. Actually, they don't have to authorize the page. Any page on a notable subject can be created by anyone as long as they can provide independant references to verify notability. Additionaly, you have just admitted to a conflict of interest with regards to that page, therefore you shouldn't be making signigficant edits to it as per Wikipedia policies to ensure neutrality, indepenance and no self-promotion. If they no longer go by Drew and Shannon, then that page can be redirected to a new page if and when it is created. Cheers, Turgan Talk 14:05, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Why edit summaries are important
Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. 64.4.93.100 (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- If you use a detailed edit summary, then your edits wont get reverted. Actually say why you blank a section in the summary. Not just "talk page". Section blanking is typically reverted quickly. After seeing your reason on the talk page, I agree that my revert was an error and I apologize for that, however a couple of extra words in the edit summary would have avoided the revert, especially where you already had warnings for section blanking. Turgan Talk 15:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- I only had warnings for section blanking because of another careless patroller. The reason is explained on the talk page so that's good enough as an edit summary and you should have checked before undoing my edit. Thank you for apologizing at least. 64.4.93.100 (talk) 15:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)