Talk:Pungency

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Capsaicin-containing beverages were available before 2007. I have been drinking Goya brand Ginger Beer since around 1995. Barndoorsentry (talk) 23:02, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, some beverages list jalapeno oil in there ingredients. This jalapeno oil should contain capsaicin, as well, since it gives off the same sort of burning sensation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.8.225 (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing

Piquant and piquance is more used to describe a tart or acidic aspect to food. piquancy is used to describe the hot affect of food. I think we should clarify this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.204.130.177 (talk) 18:42, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This sentence is nonsensical "...piquancy /ˈpiːkənsi/ is sometimes used to refer to a lower degree of pungency (than that of chilli) such as that of mustard, but it more often refers to mild pungency..." and the dictionary link following it does not support the idea that it tries to convey. The *multiple* incorrectly incorporated dictionary links in the later paragraph about piquancy also do not support the idea of piquancy as the ideal amount of capsaicin. All reference to piquancy should be removed from this article.

Further, in the terminology section, it is incorrect to say that "pungent" is not common in non-specialist English. It is very common. However, it is almost never used with the specialized meaning with which this article deals. The most common food collocations for pungent in the Corpus of Contemporary American English are cheese, garlic, and herbs. The wording could better reflect this distinction.

Move?

Piquance → Pungency –

"Pungency" is the correct technical term used by scientists: http://www.pnas.org/content/105/33/11808.abstract http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/279/1735/2012.full http://www.chilepepperinstitute.org/files/tiny_mce/file_manager/educ_info/Chile%20Terminology.pdf "Piquance" is nonsense because it's so rare that it's not even in most dictionaries. All dictionaries have "piquancy" and the examples and definitions of "piquancy" and "pungency" clearly show that "pungency" is correct and "piquancy" is something else. (See www.onelook.com) Espoo (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but not purely because pungency is the "technical term". I think of the two pungency is more used than piquancy and, as noted, piquancy is such a rare term that it can have different meanings. As the article describes, piquancy can be used to refer to foods that a mildy spicy. I think you were a bit hasty in changing the lead/introduction. I'd favour both terms being used, and I've amended it. -- Peter ^{Talk to me} 19:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As can be seen here, the article was moved to this title from "pungency" with little more than an edit summary. Piquance was created earlier and, as stated by the creater of that article, "it always refers to a FORM of pungence, but pungence doesn't necessarily refer to taste/piquance and they're not synonymous; moved some content there". -- Peter ^{Talk to me} 20:15, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the requested move was: The consensus is to rename the article per the above move request

Piquance → Pungency (move) – See resolved request. Common and technical name. Peter ^{Talk to me} 19:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spicy food doesn't kill taste buds

Myth Debunked: Spicy Food Doesn't Really Kill Taste Buds. Anybody has some academic info on this? Komitsuki (talk) 16:15, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]