Talk:Landrace
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Removed the following from the article until it can be sourced. It's uncited and appears to be original research. This is a very unconventional use of the term landrace. Cannabis landraces do occur but sativa, indica, and ruderals are names at either the species or subspecies rank, whereas landraces are at the variety or form rank. Sativa and Indica have broad geographical distribution in a variety of ecosystem types, and no botanist would refer to them as landraces. Ruderalis is sometimes described as feral hemp and this usage may describe a landrace.
CannabisThe genus Cannabis consists of three landraces that are geographically isolated: Cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and Cannabis ruderalis. Botanists often refer to these three cannabis landrace as separate species or subspecies types.
--Chondrite 02:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Is the very odd Norwegian Lundehund a landrace?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Lundehund:
The Norwegian Lundehund (The Mostad Dog) is a small, rectangular Spitz type dog. The Lundehund has a great range of motion in its joints, allowing it to fit into narrow passages. The head can be bent backwards along the dog's own spine, and the forelegs can turn to the side at a 90-degree angle to its body, much like human arms. Its pricked, upright ears can be sealed nearly shut by folding them forward or backward.The Norwegian Lundehund is polydactyl: instead of the normal four toes a foot, the Lundehund has six toes, all fully formed, jointed and muscled. The outercoat is dense and rough with a soft undercoat. The Lundehund is adapted to climb narrow cliff paths in Rost where it natively would have hunted puffins. ... The breed has a long history. As far back as 1600 it was used for hunting puffins along the Norwegian coast. Its flexibility and extra toes were ideal for hunting the birds in their inaccessible nesting locations on cliffs and in caves.
http://lundehund.com/the%20lundehund.htm:
>in one and the same breed we find a whole series of unusual anatomical characteristics. Some of these characteristics are found, but only sporadically, in other breeds. The lundehund is rare but is also remarkable--what other breed of dog is marked by so many unusual characteristics? The lundehund has at least 6 toes on each foot; can close its ears so that the ear-canal is protected against dirt and moisture; has neck-joints which enable it to bend the head backwards over the shoulders, so that the forehead touches the back--this is useful when the dog has to turn in a narrow passage. Furthermore, this dog has extremely mobile fore shoulder-joints, so that both front legs can stretch straight out to the sides.
Is there really any other type of canid where that kind of flexibility can be found? Or the ability to seal the ear canal?
Also: http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=743
Videos: http://varoyrhs.com/it/skattekammer/lundeh.tysktv/index.htm http://varoyrhs.com/it/skattekammer/lundehunden/index.htm
--Falange (talk) 15:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Cats
Needs a section on cats. Quite a number of established cat breeds are based on landraces, and are called "natural breeds" in the cat sphere. Some examples include Manx (cat), Egyptian Mau, Norwegian Forest Cat and Kurilian Bobtail, among many others. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 05:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
"Split personality" article structure
The most obvious problem with this article is that the plant-interested editors have approached the topic from a botany science generalist perspective, and geeked out on theory while avoiding nearly all specifics, meanwhile the animal-interested editors have approached it from an animal husbandry and fancier specialist view and "Jim-Bobbed" out on barnyard breeds and their nomenclature while avoiding everything high-falutin' and scientific. It needs countervailing balance in both directions. I suggest that the structure of the article is correct, except for the flora/fauna divide. We need serious zoological, not just botanical, science citations on genesis and survival of landraces and how they related to biodiversity, sustainability, etc. We also need "oh, I know what that is!" examples non-nerdy readers can relate to of what plants, not just animals, qualify as landraces, which ones are called landraces but aren't, what varieties are derived from which landraces, what new landraces have developed from feral cultivars, etc. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 09:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Ferrets as a landrace
Considering that ferrets were domesticated some 2,500 years ago and are not found in nature in their domesticated form (in fact they have terrible survival instincts), should maybe a bit be put in along with the other animals as a landrace? groovygower (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- It would need a citation. I wasn't able to find one. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'd say no, a landrace actually has to be pretty good at surviving on their own, and it's more about animal breeds than animal species. Montanabw(talk) 22:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Sminthopsis84 - a citation of what? Do you mean ferrets' appalling survival instincts or their breeding for domestication? groovygower (talk) 17:49, 18 July 2014 (UTC)