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Hey

Oi, you haven't put your email into your preferences!

Only reason I noticed is that I usually ask this privately, but anyway...fancy a shot at RFA? I would be happy to nominate you. Best, Moreschi (talk) (debate) 22:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oi, Moreschi, I've sent you an email so you'll have my address if you ever need it. Thanks for the offer and your confidence. But... admin-ing would take too much time away from what I really enjoy – writing articles, rescuing worthy kittens from being drowned at AfDs, and helping out on the Opera Project. The latter can provide quite enough wiki-drama as it is. ;-). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See also [1]. Voceditenore (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was a delight...

...to read this brilliant piece. And I wasn't even looking for it; I came here to thank you for backing me up on the GA issue on Egardus, since that's something that's been bugging me for a while and had to get off my chest. But your essay was spot-on. Oops, there I go again, pretending to be an adult! Need to get a bouncier, animated signature ... Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll make you one if you promise to give me three barnstars. ;-) Seriously, though thanks for the kind review. I wrote that when WP was in the midst of an invasion by a particularly... er... time-consuming... bunch of 13 year olds. At one point there was even a WikiProject (now deleted) that was awarding them barnstars for every 1000 edits, every 50 AfD's "voted on", every 5 (hapless) editors they adopted, etc., etc.. For a while, I and a couple of other editors spent all our time running around cleaning up after them, until they lost interest and/or got blocked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciation

Hi, Voceditenore. Thanks for the beautiful rewrite on John Andrew Rea. I would prefer not having to delete noteworthy articles, but the current backlog at copyright violations leaves me little time to revise much text. (Especially in Moonriddengirl's absence.) I just wanted you to know that I very much appreciate your contributions. Cheers. — CactusWriter | needles 06:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome ;-) and you were absolutely right to delete it. If you have time, could you do me a favour? I've re-written Juliette Pochin on Talk:Juliette Pochin/Temp. Would it possible to move it into article space. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Another nice job -- and better still was your discussion with the original creator on the talk page. "...Teach a man to fish..." etc. You're a good teacher. Cheers. — CactusWriter | needles 16:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! In my university teaching days, I once had a student who plagiarsed my own book in her essay. But at least it took some effort, bless her. She typed it out from the hardcopy — must have taken ages. Re "teaching how to fish...", I'm not sure how many new fishermen it produces for Wikipedia. In the Opera Project we get a lot of articles for singers, opera companies, etc. created by their agents and PR people, and sometimes themselves. In my experience, the best I can hope for is that they'll edit their article according to the guidelines in future. I have yet to find one who has ever contributed anything else to Wikipedia. Their only interest in the project is as a PR tool. Having said that, at least it results (after much red-pencilling from other editors) in one new article on a notable subject that we didn't have before. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for teaching me also, about every singer to opera and avoiding answers.com! I keep supplying singers to the project who never sing opera, last Dorothee Mields. When I found a Bach singer who also sang opera I nominated that fact for DYK, Franz Kelch, to be 95 this year, no PR involved. Unfortunately the only source for him I found in English reads like a machine translation. Any help in that case? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My god, plagiarizing the prof's own book -- that's sadly funny -- the very definition of clueless. I would suggest she switch majors. I know what you mean about bulk of submissions coming from PR types. (It's one of the reasons I refrain from offering copyright violators much opportunity to license the source website -- the promotional text couldn't be used anyway.) But, occasionally, unexpectedly, when the stars align just so... you'll come across a true angler among the crowd of daytrippers. When is that next blue moon anyway? — CactusWriter | needles 19:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance Please

Hello Voceditenore. Would you please check my user talk page? Some time ago you were assisting me in the creation of a new page, ".Gabriel". As you requested, I posted my request on that page but haven't heard from you. I understand you are very busy but would really appreciate your help. Thank you!TF537 (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Please see edit request. In the meantime, you can use put the alt in the image parameter. e.g. |image=[[File:example.png|200px|alt=Example alt text]] Racepacket (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coming of Age (BBC TV series)

I would question why the BBC are allowed to vandalise the page and put blatant propaganda on there suggesting that the response to the programme was mixed in some way, when in fact it was universally appalling. Every time real and referenced reviews are put up, they are taken down by some BBC apparatchik dickhead. Why are they not censored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.176.103 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with "real and referenced reviews" being taken down. You deliberately inserted false and in several cases defamatory content about living people in multiple articles related to this show, as well adding as your personal commentary disguised to make it look as if it were a quote referenced from a reliable source, e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5]. You are going to get your IP, aka Oxford University, blocked if you keep it up. Voceditenore (talk) 18:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Travesti/Victorian burlesque

Tim just did a nice job expanding the Victorian burlesque article. Does anything need to be added back and forth between this and the Travesti article that you are working on? Just a thought. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of the current merge proposal at Burlesque (literature)? I wonder if merging it into the poorly-written Burlesque article will destroy any value (or chance at expansion) that it may have. Your comments would be valued at Talk:Burlesque. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, V. You may find this article of interest: http://www.jstor.org/pss/3826405 -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Steve. I'm going to file this away for when I next add to Travesti. I've still got a bit to do re the ballet sections. But I never seem to get the time. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keto and Kote

Many thanks for re-establishing this article. During copy-edit driving I found the previous version a complete copy-and-paste violation from inception; I was the one who tagged for deletion. I have to say your succinct but elegant stub is superb, and should be set as an example of “how to do it”’. I have a tendency to reduce faulty articles to the brusque and barren, so I will log your Keto and Kote as a guiding light. In admiration. Acabashi (talk) 03:24, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Castrato parts

Hehe :) Moreschi (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Above comment is in response to this. Voceditenore (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Burlesque

Thanks for watching the dead links. It's a big shame that the PeoplePlayUK site went down, as it had a huge amount of info for Victorian articles. I think that most of the content migrated somewhere, but I'm not sure where. Any idea? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:03, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the only dead link was PeoplePlayUK. The other 2 were spam/copyvio. Anyhow, the Theatre Museum's contents are now held by the Victoria & Albert. See the V & A's Theatre and Performance collections page. If you search the V & A collections, the online objects generally come with a lot of informative text in addition to the image. See this, for example. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Carmen

I have finished my work on this. The peer review threw up some interesting suggestions, many of which have been absorbed into the article. It is now at FAC (please take a look), and I am working on improving and extending the discography subarticle. I have not done anything with the "adaptations" which were removed from the older version of the article, and it may be a while before I can get to deciding what should be done here. Brianboulton (talk) 18:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on getting it to FA, Brian! I'm going to be away for the next 2 weeks and wouldn't be able to help with an "adaptations" page anyway. One of the advantages of page like that is to keep all sorts of minor (and often very trivial) distractions out of the main article. A popular work like this is particularly prone to that kind of stuff, often added "drive-by" without references or context. But let's see how it goes. There may not be a need for an "adaptations", at least in the near future. By the way, can you get the Carmen Filmography link to work? I can't and have tried multiple times. :/ Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will continue improving the discography article as time permits. In due course I'll open a rudimentary "adaptations" article for the purpose you describe; it won't be long before the trivia merchants start tampering with the main article. It went through the FAC process so smoothly and swiftly that I can't help an uneasy feeling that something important got missed. Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Smithsonian updates website!

Hi Voceditenore! The Smithsonian Institution Archives took notice of your finding about Clara Hasse's death date and will be updating their records, website and Flickr! The changes should take place tomorrow. So thanks for the great find! Sarah (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. It's nice to see that the traffic between Wikipedia and its sources goes both ways. Last year I got the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings at UCSB to change a glaring error on their database which found while I was researching Stanislao Gastaldon. In the process, I discovered another and even more whopping error in New Grove Dictionary of Opera which had been propagated all over the internet, but that's Grove's problem. OK, now I'm off to give the Harvard library system a nudge over this. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tobias

Apologies if this is in the wrong place (finding out how to contribute to Wikipedia is a very steep learning curve and I've only just learnt Joomla, brain hurting!). Huge thanks for the rewriting and reformatting of the article on Dove's Tobias and the Angel. I'd only just discovered it was there and found it was so incomplete and inaccurate it needed some serious input. Having been in the project from the very beginning I felt I had the authority to write on it, and did post some material from my website - hadn't realised this seems to count as conflict of interest. But it certainly doesn't violate copyright which presumably belongs to me, and I'd like to be able to insert a photo of the Birmingham production, would this be allowed? I'd be very grateful if you had time to help me on this. Kate Quartano Brown (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Little favour

A while back I did some work de-fluffing Richard Gombrich. I think it still needs some more, but I have a little learning to the most dangerous degree and can't really see the wood for the trees. I'm pretty sure the structure is still hagiographic. May I ask if you could do a quick brisk hacking back of the undergrowth? Am pretty sure that the list of publications goes way beyond the notable, too. Amuse yourself by reading how it looked five years ago almost-instinct 12:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks

I'm grateful for your clear explanation and kind welcome on my first interaction with Wikipedia. The format here is slightly intimidating and I'm wary of breaking taboos or upsetting anyone so your breakdown and reassurance was greatly appreciated. :-)

SonnySonnyWilliamson (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Giovanna Gray

DYK gong archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just wanted to say, nice job on the Giovanna Gray article. Going to the old, foreign language sources is something not everyone can do, and it makes a big difference. David.thompson.esq (talk) 13:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, David. I had a lot fun writing that. Most of the articles I write tend to be of this type, e.g., Cristina, regina di Svezia, Mala Pasqua!, Stanislao Gastaldon, Andrea Salvadori, Eugenia Tadolini. I figure that for the really famous composers, operas, singers, etc. there are plenty of online sources, but for these, the only place people will be able to find detailed information, in English, and free of charge is Wikipedia. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004008982/resource/

What do you think of this image, which also covers an opera singer without photo? Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's OK, but I'd never use it for Lillian Grenville. The one of her alone will be much better for that article. It's also a much more arresting image than this rather stilted duo. But this one would be good for Gustave Huberdeau and Natoma (kills 2 birds with one stone for that article). Voceditenore (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more possibilities for articles and future articles with no images:

The Bain collection is very badly annotated, I'm just plowing slowly through all the images and clicking on ones that likely to be opera singers. I may find some more...

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea which Stephano the Jacoby is? Niklausse is almost certainly Tales of Hoffmann, but I'm not sure off-hand about a Stephano trousers role. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I assume Roméo et Juliette she sang it many times at the Met at around the time that picture was taken [6], and her career was almost entirely at the Met. Voceditenore (talk) 19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thought that would've been too high for her, since Wikipedia labels it as a soprano part. If she sang it, though, it's probably that. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Met lists her as a mezzo-soprano (rather than contralto), and the role is frequently sung and recorded by mezzos, e.g. Kristine Jepson, Susan Graham, etc. Voceditenore (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rosine Stoltz

Some time ago, you started the article on Rosine Stoltz. There is now a discussion about the date of her death. I wonder if you could consult your original sources and let us know. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at Talk:Rosine Stoltz. Voceditenore (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IEP

Hi Voce. I see you're still very much on the ball with the IEP issue. Not that 16 months later has anyone in the Foundation really taken a blind bit of notice of what Torey said. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notre-Dame de Clignancourt

A most pleasing new article. I'll add the church to my itinerary for a vaguely-planned, Fauré-themed wander round Paris. Don't bother to reply to this: I just wanted to express my appreciation. – Tim riley (talk) 19:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Di Fiorino et al.

Ciao Voce. I hope this finds you well. Our paths once again cross in Mario Di Fiorino, and I notice your work in Gruppo del Rosario. There is a connection between Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry, the closely connected, newly created bios Maria Luisa Figueira and Mario Di Fiorino, as well as edits made by the same users in e.g. Davide Lazzeretti, Leonetto Amadei, Ganser syndrome, and Mind control. I reverted in Leonetto Amadei, and left a note on the editor's page, and subsequently tried to add info from the .it article Leonetto Amadei. (It appears that the Italian Leonette Amadei has had additions similar to the ones made to the English.) The English version has had the same material re-added. I restored an older version of Davide Lazzeretti. I have raised attention about this pattern (WP:COATRACK?) on WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Psycholog, alas, not to much avail. Maybe it is something you would like to look into? Best, Sam Sailor Sing 21:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam, hmmm, yes, I've noticed this interesting little can of worms. On the Italian WP, some of their stuff has been deleted outright, e.g. Mario di Fiorino, Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry and Psichiatria e Territorio (also founded by Di Fiorino) or reverted in existing articles, e.g. Leonetto Amadei, Davide Lazzeretti. Often, however, a "new" editor pops up to re-add the stuff, as happens here. The editors also use the same arguments they use here: "It's in the Italian/English Wikipedia so it's ok".
Several of the SPAs active here have been blocked for sockpuppetry at the Italian WP [7], [8], [9]. I'm not sure if they're sock or meat puppets, but without getting into outing, Google searches on their user names reveal that all are from the Pisa/Forte dei Marmi/Viareggio area. A couple are students of Di Fiorino or his colleagues, one works for a hotel in Forte dei Marmi and helps organize functions for Di Fiorino's symposia, two have co-authored articles with Di Fiorino, one appears to be Di Fiorino himself, etc. etc. I would say that just about every red-linked contributor since August to the articles you've cited is in some way connected to Di Fiorino and all their contributions here need checking. Some of them have extensively edited psychology/psychiatry articles in addition to the ones you've mentioned. Note also this sandbox. There's obviously more to come.
Anyhow, here's my take on some of the articles:
If we meet resistance from the "consortium" of Tuscan editors, then we take 'em to WP:COI/N. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 22:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful to see the logic you apply when investigating, I learned a lot. Thanks! Best, Sam Sailor Sing 00:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Want me to do {{cite books}} in the Publications section of Mario Di Fiorino? Best, Sam Sailor Sing 09:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dauvergne

Hi. I was planning to create more than just stubs for those operas, but I've been too busy/off it recently. I do have the Rousset recording of Hercule mourant, so I'll try to improve that particular article over the next few weeks. Next year I might even be able to get my hands on Dratwicki's full-length biography of Dauvergne (extracts are accessible at Google Books). Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 09:34, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's brilliant that you've created these (stubs or not), thanks so much! I managed to find an illustration for Hercule mourant. I'll see what I can do for Canente and Polixène, if nothing else the title pages of the scores à la Énée et Lavinie. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, thanks - and thanks for the nice image. Have you seen Livrets baroques? They have libretti for all four of these Dauvergne tragedies. Some of those pages contain images of the original costume designs, so they must have got them from somewhere. Also, I'm tempted to create a few other Dauvergne stubs, although it will break with my plan to focus on tragic French opera for the time being. Dauvergne's comédie-ballet La vénitienne was also recorded recently, but I don't have the discs. --Folantin (talk) 10:22, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(By "some of them", I really mean Canente [10]. Can't see much for the others). --Folantin (talk) 10:29, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvia Shwartz

I looked at the edit dated 20th Feb, and it was essentially the same as the Amazon review, so no copyright infringement. I'm unconvinced that it is ready for submission yet, given the generally hagiographic tone, eg She is the latest of her family to achieve international renown. followed by sections of her family's achievement (notability is not inheritable, so no real point to this), Miss Schartz instead of just the surname, "Career highlights" rather than "Career". Shall I recreate in Lisaby's sandbox? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:28, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jim, I answered over at the AfC Help Desk where I suggested moving to User:Lisaby/Sylvia Schwartz (a previous redirect to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sylvia Schwartz). It sounds like it needs a good going over for style and tone as well as referencing and I'll try to help the editor with it before they submit it again. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bradbury/Vedontakal Vrop

Hi there! I gave up on the image after Future Perfect's intemperate blast, but I don't see that this is a 'clear' NFCC violation, as you noted when re-removing the image (which I suppose was restored by some kind soul hoping to get me blocked). It is FP who in the discussion on this was imo 'wikilawyering', by stating his interpretation, and then declaring that it was the right and only interpretation, before getting on his high horse of denunciation. Not that I can be bothered to take it any further. Best, --Smerus (talk) 11:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Smerus. The IP who kept restoring it is trolling and highly likely to be doing so because of a dispute with the administrator who removed it, rather than with you. They're probably a sock of a blocked user to boot. The image use in Vedontakal Vrop quite clearly violates Criterion 8. of Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria: "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Not having a picture of the author of the novel in which the opera is mentioned is in no way detrimental to the understanding of the topic, i.e. the opera. The administrator who removed it is highly experienced in image licensing issues and is also an License reviewer on Commons. They aren't "wikilawyering", although I can see why editors who don't work in that area might perceive it as such. As someone who does a lot of work in copyright and fair use issues related to text, I know from experience that our actions can be unpopular with some editors, and there's a tendency to shoot the messenger . Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this, a little bit of context makes a lot of difference! (although I still think FP@S could have used a bit of the old AGF). Anyway as I am presently in Kiev, there's a lot more exciting going on than WP.......Best, --Smerus (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Er... a lot more exciting! Stay safe, Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On my walk to work this morning......--Smerus (talk) 14:51, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cripes! Voceditenore (talk) 17:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hampstead Village Voice

Hi, and thanks for your help with the above. Very new to all this. FTR: The Press Gazzette's (ref 5) is not entirely correct. It was not a spoof edition but spoof front page on p.17 of Hampstead Village Voice edition 4 in 2008 (ref. Hard copy of Hampstead Village Voice edition 4). Also the Camden Review is a section of the local paper, Camden New Journal. I will try to prune and improve on existing as suggested but a bit of a Wikipedia novice, so all help much appreciated. Please have another look at it when you can. Kind regards, Sebastian Wocker. wocker@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.35.166 (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sebastian, I've moved you message down here to the bottom of this page. (New talk page threads go at the bottom of the talk page. More about that at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines.) Anyhow, I'm in Italy at the moment with very limited internet access. I'll have a look when I get back on the 9th. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:50, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Caldara +

Thank you for the Caldara opera, here's another: La concordia de' pianeti [11], --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gerda. You're welcome :). I've added quite a bit more to it now. Apparently, Tito e Berenice was part of contest! I might do La concordia once the German performance actually takes place. In the meantime, I'll be working on creating the other two Operas of the Month, by papa Scarlatti and his son. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. After I closed my shop completely (see my talk, - I kept the ironing lady) I suddenly feel very busy with a man whose boss is the pope and a painter stub, not mentioning the GA nom for Chéreau. Did you see that I mention singing as occupation in my own (bzzt, unspeakable)? (Derived from "Singen, singen" in the Christmas Story by Schütz). In choir, we will concentrate on Schütz and Rutter, Magnificat by both, I hope I will get in the mood until July / October / November. Certainly not if we keep losing a great editor every week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*taps microphone*

Is it safe to come back....? almost-instinct 15:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yep :) Great to see you, A-I! I miss those happy hours we spent de-pufferizing articles. I had to whack this one all by myself. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmm maybe not so safe after all.... almost-instinct 13:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you mean below? I think you'll be OK . I only mention it if I'm specifically asked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not you I'm worried about ;) almost-instinct 11:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Schoen-René

Hi voceditenore. I just read some interesting articles on this lady and thought you might enjoy penning an article on her. Here are some potential sources:

Best wishes.4meter4 (talk) 02:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! She sounds like quite a character, 4meter4. I'm sort of up to my eyeballs at the moment, but I'll keep this here to remind me to get 'round to it eventually, if someone else doesn't first. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sharon Ruchman

Thanks for your recent cleanup/removing promotional/un-encyclopedic information from Sharon Ruchman. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David. I'm away until the end of April, but I'm rather minded to PROD it or take it to AfD. But I'll need to do a little research first. I had a look at the talk page of the reviewer who had accepted it. Dear Oh Dear. :) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ROH edits

Hi Voce, re-reading my contribution to the WP+ROH thread, I was (post the event) struck by how much you had avoided naming the involved parties, and how much I had worked in a diametrically-opposed way to link everybody, to draw their attention to the thread. I don't think that professional involvement, per se, is necessarily bad for WP, but only if it's a order of magnitude better than the contributions of Edwardx. Some kind of response seems advisable, but I don't know whether involving Edwardx, or relying on Tim riley/Andrew Grey, or talking to the ROH/ Rob Grieg is the best way forward. Scarabocchio (talk) 16:03, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Scarabocchio. I've commented further at the OP. I think maybe just keep an eye on the situation for now via User:AlexNewArtBot/OperaSearchResult and see if it happens again before raising a brouhaha. One of the reasons I kept it fairly low-key is that I'm about to be away for three weeks and won't be able to follow through with discussions etc. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kanawishi: Five Against Venus

First, thank you for your encouragement and for the pointers you gave me. I never suspected that such resources existed for science fiction, especially the older stuff. However, I checked them out and even found some new ones. So now I believe that I may have my article on "Five Against Venus" ready for you to look at. If it comes up to Wikipedia standards, there are, on the Wikipedia list of science-fiction novels, almost two dozen titles in red that I can turn blue over the next few years. Please let me know how I did.Kanawishi (talk) 17:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kanawishi. Unfortunately, I'm about to be away for three weeks, but I'll be happy to look in on it when I get back and see how we fix it further. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A little More Of Your Attention Needed/Request

Hi Voceditenore, I have recently added a few more References to my Article & would be grateful if you could help a bit more with format and correct placement of References in the Article, please also give your valuable opinion when convenient. I shall be waiting for your response eagerly. Stay Blessed! Regards.Azhartokyo (talk) 04:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Sir Trevor Corry

Note to self: see archive

Robert Lyn Nelson

I saw your comment at ani. Despite your excellent cleanup so far, it remains supported only by thoroughly unreliable sources. I don't want to AfD it is you're still working on it. DGG ( talk ) 18:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DGG. No, I have no intention of trying to rescue it, or of adding any references. Coverage is largely marketing and press release-based sources discussing his work and him. I only cleaned it up because I didn't want that promotional drivel on Wikipedia in the interim. Today I've removed a few more unsupported "extraordinary" claims. A few years ago, I rescued Vladimir Kush (possibly the closest type of artist to Nelson on Wikipedia), but I was able to find sufficient independent sources covering not only him but his works in some depth + my impression was that it had been created by an admirer—not a PR agency. Having said that, Nelson might survive an AfD, given the exhibition at the Smithsonian which can be verified, and the fact that he did the cover art for the Beach Boys album Summer in Paradise. These sources are the best I could find: This verifies an exhibition at Lahaina Gallery in Hawaii and this one at some other galleries. This is an ad, but verifies the BB cover, "Painter Dives into 'Two Worlds' of the Oceans", Washington Times (March 31, 2001) verifies Smithsonian exhibition (press-release based though, and I note that the Washington Post had nothing to say about him or his art). This one shows one of his paintings as an illustration in Encyclopedia of Marine Mammals (Academic Press). This one from his hometown newspaper verifies some biographical information. This one verifies that he received a "local environmental hero" award. NOAA give out literally dozens every year. While he was VP, Gore used to pro forma sign all the award letters. Not quite what the WP article claimed: "United States Vice President, Al Gore, cited him an "Environmental Hero". Finally this one from Hawaii Business (February 1994) is very revealing:
"The result of his mid-day musings is today a $5 million art and publishing company known as Robert Lyn Nelson Studios, and one of the most widely recognized and profitable schools of popular art to come out of Hawaii. Nelson uses aggressive marketing—including infomercials and advertorials on Maui's visitor channels, ads in about a dozen print publications and on radio stations, and even a short documentary about his work and philosophies—to create demand for his paintings."
Perhaps change the lead to
"Robert Lyn Nelson (born 1965) is an American artist primarily known for his paintings of marine wildlife and aggressive marketing."
Just joking. Anyhow, I'm happy with whatever you decide. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will do as you, and fix it a little. further. DGG ( talk ) 03:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi DGG. While we're on the subject... I'd appreciate your view on this article, recently accepted via AfC. It was created by a paid editor, who after this, this, this, etc. was strongly advised to go through AfC. I've copyedited it considerably, but in my view this may not pass WP:PROF. Several of the claims were/are rather inflated to enhance its qualification for acceptance. I imagine that the timing has do with the subject's forthcoming book. Voceditenore (talk) 06:12, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar archived here

Thank you so much, Sammo. It's been my pleasure, as always. I'm just sorry I was away when most of Longy students were working on their articles. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 12:31, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar re Robert Bonfiglio archived here

Thanked here. Voceditenore (talk) 11:33, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

HELP NEEDED from Voceditenore

dear, you have helped me in the past with Mohammad Waris Mir , a page i created, my first actually. it has made its way to wiki but it has some problems that keep filling up the header and i dont understand how to resolve them. plz, if you have time and u r kind enough (u are actually kind enough) could you plz help me? thanks Afirahamid (talk) 12:43, 12 June 2014 (UTC)afirahamidAfirahamid (talk) 12:43, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Afirahamid. I fixed it. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 13:51, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

thanku sooooooooo much!!!

for waris mir page. regards Afirahamid (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)afirahamidAfirahamid (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AfC submission

(Previous AfC draft advice is archived here)

Hi FoCuS. After the recent decline, I had a look and added a couple of references (reviews of 2 of the albums they produced) but I still don't think it's enough. There may be more out there (probably requiring library work), but the creators are going to have to find it. It's not a sufficiently important label for me to spend time on it. It is mentioned in multiple WP articles [12], but it's hard to tell if that was just advance legwork from other COI editors. None of the mentions are referenced. Note that the creator of this draft has the same name as Cameo's distributor (Wyastone Estate) and has been very busy getting the Wyastone name into multiple articles [13], although sometimes reverted [14]. Voceditenore (talk) 06:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi FoCuS. I've vastly truncated this and rewritten with references. It was a blatant copyvio from here, hence the wildly unsuitable tone. My view is that with the new references, this probably does pass WP:MUSICBIO criteria 5 and 8. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:23, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi FoCuS. UGH! Needs to be cut to 4 sentences—literally. He is mentioned in a few sources in India but only concert announcements basically and in one review of a performance by an artist whom he accompanied. He's also appeared as the accompanist on several recordings, but I'm not sure how notable they are, and frankly don't care enough to find out. Maybe ask at WikiProject India? This is quite different from Draft:Subhen Chatterjee, which I think you should move to article space. See my comments above. I'll try to get to the rest of the folks above sometime next week. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Curiosity

You mentioned that you have no access to the AFC script. What is it that prevents it? Fiddle Faddle 14:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tim. Don't know. I checked it on my gadgets but I still doesn't work and I don't feel like finding ways around it, particularly if they involve changing the settings on my computer which uses Windows Vista and already had a spectacular crash with loss of all my files about 2 years ago. At the AfC project I confine myself to manually moving appropriate drafts into article space or advising other reviewers. See section above. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC) PS. I remember rotary phones too .Voceditenore (talk) 10:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And hand cranked sewing machines :) Fiddle Faddle 17:49, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

3rd party look

Could you take a look at LGBT topics and Hinduism. A neutral party look would be helpful. I reverted Abhi's changes as most of the things look bogus from a quick glance. Removing things as copyvio when it is clearly referenced and in quotation marks, and saying only books by known authors and peer-reviewed by academics are acceptable. I haven't a clue about the Hinduism stuff, If you don't either and can get others to look. Note: Abhi has been blocked and banned before. Talk pages are full of "fun" stuff, so I understand if you don't want to get involved. Bgwhite (talk) 21:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bgwhite. I haven't a clue about Hinduism either nor about LGBT issues. So I'll give that a miss. I only ended up looking in detail at Lesbian Association of India when I saw the discussion at ANI and wondered if I could find archived versions of the dead links. I'm fairly proficient at that as I do a lot of copyright clean-up work. Anyhow, I've nominated it for deletion, following your comment on the talk page and one last unsuccessful search to see if I could find any other coverage of it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You look thru ANI for fun? You are one sick puppy. I can't remember coming across your name before, but you have some great skills. I'll add your name to my list of experts I goto for help. Off to talk a Hindu monk and an Indian expert. Thank you for your help. Bgwhite (talk) 09:14, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
BG, ANI is fun to read if you are a retired lecturer in sociolinguistics . It's filled to bursting with brilliant examples of what we call in the trade "dysfunctional discourse", with often some "deviant discourse" thrown in as well. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What would you say here, sociolinguistically? Everyone knows that I couldn't possibly reply, with this blessing of 2 comments per discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, the infamous "infobox discourse", a sub-genre of "time sink discourse"—the kind I studiously avoid. I'll just say here that I much prefer the current box rather than the one on the talk page. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:58, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Waste of time is something that comes to mind a lot. In this case, I wanted to protect the seven years of tradition (not my article, not my box, not the question if I like it) resulting in this, changed NOW by someone who didn't edit the article before. I don't understand, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:32, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Dysfunctional and deviant? How did you know those are the two words that describe me best? :) Bgwhite (talk) 06:55, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alea III

Dear Voceditenore: I found an old draft about this organization, and looked up some references before realizing that it was a copy-paste remnant. I deleted the draft, but are any of these useful in improving the mainspace article? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:52, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • http://greece.greekreporter.com/2011/07/16/greek-composer-in-final-6-of-the-%C2%AB2011-alea-iii-international-composition-competition%C2%BB/
  • http://azerbaijanamericaalliance.org/news/azerbaijani-composer-qualifies-for-alea-iii-competition-final-in-us
  • http://www.ecu.edu/cs-admin/news/poe/1005/horst.cfm
  • Music at Michigan. UM Libraries. 1979. pp. 20–. UOM:39015009459036.
  • Chime: Newsletter of the European Foundation for Chinese Music Research. European Foundation for Chinese Music Research. 1993.
  • Pan Pipes of Sigma Alpha Iota Quarterly. Wayside Press. 1980.
  • Charles Christopher Mark's Arts Reporting Service. Arts Reporting Service. 1987.
  • The Instrumentalist. Instrumentalist Co. 1988.
  • Journal of the American Viola Society. American Viola Society. 1985.

Pauline (chamber opera)

Dear Voce: NOT KNOWING how to leave a message for you in any other way, please forgive this intrusion, and please accept these thanks. MANY thanks. I just read your new essay about our new chamber opera, PAULINE. Just excellent. We appreciate the time and trouble you clearly took. Best,

Charles Barber CITY OPERA VANCOUVER info@cityoperavancouver.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.121.207 (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For Voceditenore, I am so very very very grateful for your help, and guidance, and editing. This experience brought me to tears at the weekend, and I had to just leave it. In the meantime, you fixed things, and gave me some direction. Thank you! Lisa A. Banner (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:John Austin (Jack) Victoreen

Hello Sir. I am new to Wikipedia and I am working on my first article, the subject of which is "John Austin (Jack) Victoreen". You have a page on L.S. Taylor, that mentions an interview with Victoreen and others in 1977. Can you give more details about that event, so I can include it in my article? Thanks in advance for your help.Zephyr7575 (talk) 22:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on your talk page [15]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

John Todd Ferrier

Dear Voceditenore, thanks very much for your help with my feeble efforts for John Todd Ferrier... I was struggling to find any independent references, and starting to despair -indeed I had overlooked my finding Mary Kemmis' book a year or so ago (I don't have much time for this and distractions on other subjects aplenty)... much of my text started off as a translation from the Spanish wiki article but turned out to be from other places and in at least one case seemed better in the original words when I stumbled across it... but your re-write from a somewhat different perspective helps immensely. I'll see if I can squeeze in your references and re-submit asap... and will try to be more careful with my tenses in future! Best wishes and thanks again, -Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yadsalohcin (talk • contribs) 19:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Grandfather Cuts Loose the Ponies

Dear Voceditenore, Thanks for writing the article "Grandfather Releases The Ponies". It was not about me writing the article. It was about the article being written. I'm happy that you felt that the monument deserved an article. You have given me more confidence in Wikipedia. Much thanks. I will write David Govedare and let him know about the article. Gigfisher (Gigfisher (talk) 10:25, 22 July 2014 (UTC)) Dear Voceditenore, Unfortunately I received a terse message from the artist, David Govedare:The design portion of the article is completely wrong! The story is completely of my own origin, the basket is the cornucopia of the creative force in the universe. The story line has nothing to do with coyote or any past native legends...loosely or otherwise, where does all this persistent BS come from. The story I have written is attached...it is rooted in the present as far as authorship and timeless in its meaning. Please follow through and delete me from the BS already printed, and change the message . dave govedare[reply]

I will attach his story as soon as I figure it out how to do it. I'm sorry this has turned into a dilemma. I thought he'd like it. Thanks. Gigfisher (Gigfisher (talk) 22:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Help Please

Hello,

I am trying to submit a new article Draft:ACC Fast Track Countries Tournament about the cricket tournament which was run from 2004 to 2007. It's waiting for review. I have provided the links of the tournament conducted each year on the bottom of the page (External links). I'd like to request you to review and approve it and let me know about it.

Thanks! Asheshneupane95 (talk) 14:24, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please fill out your JSTOR email

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Thank you from Encyclopedious (re: disambiguated title - Chris Jennings (musician)

Thank you for your time and help, I really appreciate it as I anxiously await my page to be reviewed ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Encyclopedious (talk • contribs) 21:19, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, plus edit request

Thanks for your past assistance with my COI editing requests on the Stetson University College of Law Wikipedia page. I just posted a few new requests since someone representing an advocacy organization took down a bunch of objective content and replaced it with their own statistics. Would you mind considering my requests on the talk page?

THANKS for all you do!

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