Talk:Hardcore gamers
Did some rewriting; sectioned; toned down some of the negative opinions. Hopefully others can fill in sections such as the 'games' and 'esoteric trends' better than I can. Al001 15:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Articles for Deletion debate
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"Games" Section
This entire section is relatively pointless. The two genres most casually played are puzzles and any/all shooters, be it Centipede, 1942, or any FPS. I can understand considering people who've been jacking off to CS since it came out hardcore gamers, in the sense that they are hardcore CS players and CS is a game, but no one who plays Halo is hardcore. Likewise, no one who plays WoW is hardcore, nor Zelda, nor UT, nor FF. MGS I can agree with to a degree, as some people beat the fucking things on European Extreme, but, really, a hardcore gamer isn't defined by the games they play (unless they religiously play one of the aforementioned non-hardcore games, which defines them as a complete casual gamer). If having a list of games is a must, sleeper games are a better mention, such as one of the Katamari games, Shadow of the Colossus, or even Fear Effect. Even more effective would be mentioning somebody who actually played and completed shitty games like ET (shitty movie too, randomly), or any of the Driver games, or Mario is Missing/Mario's Time Machine. Yet more effective would be mentioning people who do speed runs on any of these games. There, by the way, is another indication of a hardcore gamer: someone who does speed runs. So, yeah, that's my various cents.
stereotype
until someone can put some sources or back it up at all, I'm taking it out. this isn't the place for original research, or in this case talking off the top of your head. Oreo man 22:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)