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i don't think we could say she's "from" : Tafilalt, she just passed by. She is from "The Ahhagar".

if no objections, i'll change that. - Dzlinker (talk)

Hi Dzlinker - Accodring to the article she is originally from Tafilalt, then settled in Ahaggar. The categories "People from ..." apply to people who are natives or known residents of a given place. She qualifies for both the Tafilalt and Ahaggar categories. Tachfin (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Masmuda & Ribat

Actually, technically, they are. Berghwata were originally a branch of the Masmuda, although since their "apostasy", they are not normally grouped together with "the Masmuda" (TM) of the High-Middle Atlas, so I'm not going to object to your change. (For the record, Ghomara are also "Masmuda") Walrasiad (talk) 21:19, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also - one more question on your "ribat" reference. Yes, Waggag had a ribat, that is indisputable. But the connection between that and the Almoravid name is not one I have explicitly seen, and makes me a little wary. Is the connection explicitly made in a chronicle, or is it loose intepretation/speculation in secondary literature? Walrasiad (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that would make the Masmuda quite a big tribe. I've read (In al-Bakri I think) that they are not one group but various Berber tribes that became known by that name because of their following of Salih's relgion.
No actually there is only a mention of the name of the ribat in the chronicles. But I thought that it might be possible given Abi Zar's account; Ibn Yassin founding a Ribat in Tidra and giving it the same name as that of his teacher seems a reasonable theory. I'll remove it if this qualifies as OR. Tachfin (talk) 21:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've checked al-Bakri, he says they are originally Zenata and a number of other groups...Tachfin (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Al-Bakri says that? That's very odd. Well, Ibn Khaldun certainly classifies them with Masmuda, and everyone since seems to have followed that. I suppose it is possible they could be a mixed bunch. Although I thought they really didn't get along with the Zenata at all. Yes, the Masmuda are quite big. If their history is to be believed, they covered all of Morocco at one point, they were the originals, until the Zenata and Sanhaja started arriving and tried to penetrate and squeeze them out of the valleys, wedging them into parts (Ghomara in the Rif, Berghwata in Tamensa and Masmuda (TM) in the High Atlas). Walrasiad (talk) 22:52, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On "ribat": it is possible, I guess. Although shoehorning Waggag in is a bit of a stretch, sine he is a rather peripheral figure, the Almoravids didn't reach his area until later in the campaign. The push in recent literature is to try to move away from the "monastery-fortress" explanation, and underline the abstract "trying/persevering" explanation, rather than a concrete location. In a couple of places, I've even found ribat translated as "the cause" (more precisely the "coming together for..." a cause), with the "Almoravids" as the "the Men of the Cause", which seems kinda like how they presented themselves. Walrasiad (talk) 23:08, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes he says that Salih preached his religion between the Zenata of Tamesna. He also added a list of tribes that observed this religion + another number of tribes that were Muslims but under the authority of the Berghwata. Though he relied on an informant (A Senhaja from Azemmur) and was not a specialist as Ibn Khaldun. My understanding of this was that the Masmuda were everything south of Azemmur until the Sahara (Doukkala, Regraga, Haha then the Sous and the High Atlas) and north of Azemmur -along the coast- were the Berghwata up-until the Jebala.
Re Waggag, if we were to believe Ibn Abi Zar & al-Bakri he was fairly important as he was the one who called on the Almoravid to come north and who commended Ibn Yassin to go back to the Sahara and fight those who didn't follow him. Also after the death of Ibn Yassin only the disciples of Waggag assumed the religious authority (a certain sliman and another after him according to Qadi Ayyad), though this might have changed under Yusef Ibn Tashfin. The word al-Murabitun certainly has many figurative meanings as it is cited in the Qur'an twice in the sens of perseverance, patience, courage in facing tribulations. According to Lisan al-Arab dictionary, all meanings are related to the primary r-b-t (to tie) and ribat (the place where a military force in encamping in preparation of a fight). The structure of the word (i.e. use of long "a" after the r) denotes the perpetuation of an action. (see Masdar though the explanation on wiki is vague) Tachfin (talk) 12:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I have subjected the contensious ref to R.S

I have put an R.S check on it. I think we must follow policy when a edit war keeps going back and forth. I was ignoring it up until now.R.S checkPersonally I am semi-Neutral, but i do think a note on "depictions of moors" is valid per Othello etc. considering he is the most popular Moor in Western Lit.I am also not sure if it is an exclusive Afrocentric bias. I hope a balance can be struck b/c that is the best thing about wiki. --Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 09:39, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdelilah Benkirane

Congratulations! You created the article of the Prime Minister of Morocco! Really, when you were creating it, did you imagine that he would become Prime Minister?--46.246.131.121 (talk) 11:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Morocco elections

The Moroccan Barnstar of National Merit
Even if I did do some of the work myself, a promise is a promise. Consider yourself the inaugural recipient of this shiny new barnstar.--FormerIP (talk) 23:21, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you so much. Nice design too! --Tachfin (talk) 19:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I reverted the IP's edit, then I looked at what the edit was about and it was constructive. I self-reverted my rollback edit. It wasn't disruptive editing as far as I can see aside from the rapid undoing of your edits and the IP's by each other. As for the block evasion, I don't know. Shuipzv3 (talk) 13:45, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looked at the IP's recent contributions and saw that he had vandalised your userpage, talk page and the sockpuppet investigation page. That IS disruptive. Shuipzv3 (talk) 13:45, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Favonian gave the reason for the block as block evasion. I rest my case. Shuipzv3 (talk) 13:46, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that is a blocked disruptive user. Occasionally he may make constructive edits, but evading a block is always vandalism; I don't look at every diff since I already know what they are gonna be. (i.e indiscriminate deletion of any reference to Morocco in history) --Tachfin (talk) 00:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Moroccan Army

Thanks for the official name and translation. Do you have any good sources on the army, in English, French, or Arabic? Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 15:16, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They don't have an official website only an unofficial forum; so there the only credible Moroccan sources are reliable media (official newspaper/TV) or government press releases. --Tachfin (talk) 18:34, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your speedy response. Do you follow those sources? Do you have further information on the army? Would really like to improve the article. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly I don't have any specific military knowledge so I can't help more. This board [1] has some members of the Army who seem to be generally well informed about the subject and they do post links about its activity; but it's in French and I think they restrict the Military sections to registered users. --Tachfin (talk) 13:22, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Doing it right now. --Tachfin (talk) 09:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Nice job

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For all your great efforts to develop and improve topics related to the Arab Maghreb on Wikipedia. Keep up the good work! Al Ameer son (talk) 23:04, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Noticed you on my watchlist recently and took a look at your contributions here. I hope you keep on working hard to develop the this sector of Wikipedia which needs much more attention from editors. Congratulations! --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:04, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I deeply appreciate it! --Tachfin (talk) 09:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Najdi

Hello. As far as I know, there is consensus with regards to removing the infobox if the player has not played, even though he might have been called up and even named on the bench. It's been mentioned a few times in WP:FOOTY and I managed to find this thread, although I know there is others. Take care. TonyStarks (talk) 16:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I would like to inform you that the NPOV discussion about the List of oldest universities in continuous operation, to which you participated was reopened on the NPOVN.

The current discussion is ongoing on Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#The List of oldest universities in continuous operation (again).

Regards,
--Omar-Toons (talk) 09:09, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Invite, sorry re Flag WS

I only just logged in and saw that. The resolution seems to be a good one.

Template talk:History of Morocco

You recently commented on the layout of this template, there has been a recent edit war and I hope you have a moment to provide some input. Thanks Darkness Shines (talk) 19:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for notifying me, I'll take a look. --Tachfin (talk) 09:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image for Egypt elections

Hello! You are doing really good work in the arabian Wikipedia. Would you create a diagram which shows the distribution of seats in the Egyptian parliamentary election, 2011 as you did for the moroccan parliamentary election and the tunisian constituent assembly election 2011? It would be really nice if you create it in Commons and also for the Egyptian Shura Council election, 2012... Thanks!--93.133.78.19 (talk) 17:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks for the creation of the picture. Could you also create images about the previous egyptian parliamentary and shoura council elections? That would be very nice!--93.134.181.239 (talk) 17:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I made the graphs here and here. I meant to respond earlier but the was confused by the results which seemed not yet final. --Tachfin (talk) 21:27, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I too have been making graphs for seats in parliaments and I was wondering what you're using to make yours. I'm using this script. Cheers. — ABJIKLAM (t · c) 00:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I used ADSvote, It's an election simulation app. You can download it here --Tachfin (talk) 01:09, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks I'll take a look at it. — ABJIKLAM (t · c) 01:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
@Tachfin: Images for the 2011 and 2012 elections already exist. I meant images for the 2010/2005/2000 etc. parliamentary and the 2007/2010 Shoura Council elections. It would be very nice if you could do that. THX.--93.134.143.98 (talk) 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I'll do those too. --Tachfin (talk) 15:30, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but it would be good if you use the right colours for the parties (like Abjiklam did).--93.134.143.98 (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
When do you want to create them?--93.133.152.167 (talk) 14:08, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See here. --Tachfin (talk) 01:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, but which colours did you use? I want to show them in the legend; it would be good if you use colours which are shown in the party infoboxes: You could use this colour (#A7CF40) for the Muslim Brotherhood, for example). In the 2005 elections, the El-Ghad Party got one seat and the National Progressive Unionist Party got two seats. Could you add them? I would do it if I can, but i don't know how to do...--93.133.67.111 (talk) 12:26, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus

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"Turks in Algeria" - article needs attention

Hi, you might want to look at this article that has recently been created.

Best regards,

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Bokpasa type editings : Cordoba listed as a Spanish city in the 12th century

Hello!

Can you please help us by giving your opinion on the TP Talk:Averroes#Birthplace: Spain or the Almoravid Empire?

A user (seems not to be a sock btw) insists on changing birthplace information to "Cordoba, Spain" while, at this time, it was under Almoravid rule. I tried to explain to him that he has to seek for a consensus before applying these edits, he seems to not accept that!

Thanks in advance!

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A tag has been placed on Category:Ambassadors of Morocco to Irak, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

misspelled "Iraq" recreated category with correct spelling

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Bni Drar

Dear sir,

I have written a short article on Bni Drar, a municipality near Oujda in Oriental Morocco. Please may you evaluate it, as it was on your list to create Indiasummer95 (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great work! Very collaborative of you, thanks. --Tachfin (talk) 22:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Naturalized citizens of Qatar

Hey, the work on Qataris is appreciated, but can you tell me why you added the category wrongly to so many pages? I can count around 16-17 wikipedia pages where the subject is not naturalized. Elspamo4 (talk) 11:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I've added any wrongly. --Tachfin (talk) 11:34, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, I can see more than 15 pages wrongly added (all football). As long as the subject is born in Qatar, then they are most probably not naturalized. Hussein Yasser, for example, may be an exception, but there is no certainty whether the other people of foreign descent were naturalized, e.g Mirghani Al Zain or Hamad Shami. We know where they are descended from, but we would need proof that they were NOT a citizen from their time of birth. And you have added the category to some ethnic Qataris, such as Saud Al Hajri and Hassan Al Haidos. I'm going to remove it from some of the pages, unless you can provide individual references for each of them being naturalized or clarify on why they're considered naturalized. Elspamo4 (talk) 11:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Being born in Qatar isn't enough. According to Qatari law, a person is considered a native Qatari if they're born to a Qatari father, whether abroad or in Qatar. Anyway, providing individual references for each case is an uphill task, especially considering that they change their names as well. Feel free to remove if you have doubt but keep it reasonable, Qatar's history of sport's naturalization is extensive. --Tachfin (talk) 04:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of Qatari law. The point is, while it is obvious that some of them are of foreign descent, there is no certainty of their family's history in the country, or if any of their any of their fathers were naturalized. I've already removed the category from most of the football-related pages, but I see it has been added to some ethnic Qatari athletes as well. I understand why you would add it to people whose names seem foreign, but you should be able to distinguish ethnic surnames, such as Muftah or Al Dosari. Anyway I will remove it from 5 or 6 more pages and then I'm done. Elspamo4 (talk) 09:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay --Tachfin (talk) 11:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just to add to that, please do not add categories for unreferenced information about descent. If their descent is not explicitly stated and referenced in the article, do not add the category stating that they are "of country X descent". I've had to go through and clean up a bunch of articles, almost 20 now and still not done. TonyStarks (talk) 10:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thanks for your recognition the page, Hessa bint Ahmed al Sudairi.

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Oldest universities

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--Omar-toons (talk) 18:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can I request that you take another look at List of ships of the Royal Moroccan Navy in comparison to Royal Moroccan Navy#Equipment? Your edit summary indicates that you think the content of the list merely overlaps with that of the main article; but unless I've missed something it really is literally just a duplication of the relevant content. That is to say, all of the content of the list is available at the main article. You're right that the scope is different, and maybe someday if the main article becomes too long, splitting could be justified; however the main article currently stands at 13kB, far from the point at which splitting would be appropriate. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 02:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded on my talk page. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:58, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Innocence of Muslims film trailer

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Tifinagh help

Hi! The image at http://www.ummto.dz/IMG/siteon0.gif has the Kabyle name of the Mouloud Mammeri University of Tizi-Ouzou. Would you mind typing out the Kabyle name of the university? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 18:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! WhisperToMe (talk) 16:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please join the discussion here [2]. A Moroccan user, Omar-Toons is claiming that the Maghrebi quarter (Harat al-Maghariba) of Jerusalem established starting the 11th century (by people from all over the Maghreb region, as stated by some other wikis) is exclusively Moroccan. Insisting that the articles’a name should be ‘the Moroccan quarter’ and not ‘the maghrebi quarter.’. The recurrent expression(s) in the article has (have) been modified. We can read, from the article:

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"Sexual tourism" on the article "Morocco"

Hello,

Your opinion about the insertion of a long section about "Sexual tourism" on the article "Morocco" would be highly appreciated since you are among the main contributors to the concerned page.

A discussion is ongoing on the Talk page of the article "Morocco".

Thanks in advance,
--Omar-toons (talk) 18:03, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I don't think it is a WP:SOCK, however I doubt about the sincerity of this user : since the beginning, he only focuses on Morocco-related articles and keeps watching my edits by intervening on each article I edit. His obsession on drug and prostitution issues in Morocco only confirm my doubts.
Btw, thanks for your comment.
Regards,
--Omar-toons (talk) 03:16, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Now there are doubts about my sincerity!!! Do you expect me to write an article glorifying the monarchy to be more sincere. Enough of being ashamed, no offense, but those issues are real and deserve to be addressed in wiki. The United Nations and the US Department of State write reports every year about Cannabis production and human trafficking in Morocco, go and ask them to not do so. Please, no more accusations. Fort-Henry (talk) 04:29, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Morocco...

Hello

I am not that new user you think. He re is an answer already given to Omar-Toons here [3]:

I do not really understand this behavior from user Omar-Toons. I do not neither understand what he means by "presumed new user"!!!??? Why is that? Is it only because I asked for references? Or may be Omar-Toons do not like to be challenged. As I know, Wikipedia is a collaborative project in which contributors should accept to be collaborative and should accept to be challenged on a scientific base.

Now, to avoid confusion, let me introduce myself. I am not that new user. I contributed long time ago, under an IP address, to Wiki (because of that I already know some of the policies). Starting the month of September, my son (the high school student here in Canada) has to accomplish some extensive work about Morocco (as have some of his classmates to accomplish similar work about other north African countries). And, to be honest, I was shocked to see all that unreliable content. How could we trust that? How could we as parents and how could our teachers allow some scientific works to be based on such articles? So I decided to be back.

Now, in my real life, I am a university professor. And the most important is that I am a reviewer for some of the most prestigious scientific journals edited in Oxford, UK. Analyzing and reviewing articles is my job.

Omar-Toons is accusing me of policing him, I do not understand how he dares showing to other administrators an example of his rudeness and impoliteness towards other contributors!? (Stating their contributions are stupid) Is it allowed to be that rude and impolite in Wiki? Omar-Toons also treated one of my contributions of useless while he has simply hidden a part of the article republic of Sale’ instead of sourcing it. Now, let’s admit you were translating the article, why did not you add the appropriate tag to let us know??? Finally, I would like to inform the administrators that I do not contribute to wiki to be involved in edit wars, my aim is to make wiki more reliable.

Now, regarding the fun stuff and other places as you mentioned:(there are other places for what you seem to be wanting to do; youtube, blogs, twitter & lots of other fun stuff). You talk to me as if I was a teenager!!!! Please take a look at my user page, it will give you a pretty good idea about me.

Finally, I am not treading on thin ice as all my contributions are VERY WELL SOURCED. Fort-Henry (talk) 23:35, 18 November 2012 (UTC) Enough is enough, stop reverting and join the discussion...Fort-Henry (talk) 12:43, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Tachfin,

I recently (about a month ago) wrote two articles on Moroccan history - one on the History of Marrakesh, another on the Battle of Sidi Bou Othman, that I would appreciate more experienced editors on Moroccan topics like you and Omar-Toons to take a look at. If you have a few minutes, I would appreciate a quick proof-read for errors and omissions. Thanks in advance. Walrasiad (talk) 02:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello,

Recently, a major change was made on the article Flag of Western Sahara, by merging it with Flag of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic .

Since you participated to the RfC discussion on Talk:Flag_of_Western_Sahara, you might be interested by a related discussion on ANI or, at least, you might be interested in participating to the recently launched discussion on Talk:Flag of Western Sahara.

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Coat of arms of Western Sahara/SADR

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There's a discussion you might be interested in at Talk:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Sahrawi_Arab_Democratic_Republic#Move?.

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Both WP:OPENPARA and WP:MOSBIO state:

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Since the subject is notable for being a rapper, where he was born and his ethnicity is not relevant to the his notability. Even if we kept that, per WP:OVERLINK, we don't link to countries.

It was reverted by another editor without explanation, so I thought I would explain here. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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While Shia Imami Ismaili Tariqa is the name of the Aqa Khan Imamate Nizaris, not all Nizaris are followers of the Aqa Khan as al-Imam al-Hadhir. We should not replace the description of Nizarism with that of a single sect of Nizaris. I myself am a Nizari of the Shia Imami Ismaili Tariqa but I do not think it is wise to write off all Nizaris who don't follow my Imam. The page should be rewritten to emphasise the centrality of the Shia Imami Ismaili Tariqa in Nizari thought and practice but the Shia Imami Ismaili Tariqa should not displace all Ismailis of the Nizari persuasion by default. Ogress smash! 14:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly I don't think there is call for a separate article aside from "Nizari" at this time; it would be greatly duplicated. It's worthwhile just to note that the majority of Nizaris are followers of the Aqa Khan in the article as it would be kind of a rabbit hole of scholarship to find anyone knowledgeable enough to write about those who aren't followers of HRH the Aqa Khan. Still, they should not be erased due to lack of scholarship. But it's definitely incorrect to remove the page Nizari and replace it with just the followers of the HRH as Hazir Imam. Best just to revert to Nizari, especially since we are also dealing with pre-modern Nizaris in the article as well whose fiqh was quite distinct. Ogress smash! 15:45, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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How do we close that discussion and get the page back to Nizari per consensus? Ogress smash! 10:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Achraf Baznani

Hello, Thank you for your comments. The artist Achraf Baznani is Moroccan, You can find more about him one this web sites.

[1][2][3][4]

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Acussing

You Tachfin just made an WP:CONSPIRACY, a very serious violation, you (as an contributor) must not do a WP:NPA to me. You got to be careful before judging without any proofs. I will be having a conversation with an admin about this. Fevrret (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC) Also, recommend you to assume good faith for new contributors (as seen Maromania is one of them). Stop accusing as we (Maromania and Fevrret just deleted any comment, because what I did was merging Maromania's comment as just one (which was keep). With the WP:COI you have not proofs, I am just an editor and you made a direct offense to my being, myself. The non admin disclosure was discussed and I didn't know the existent WP:NAC and reverted, and apologized to Crow for this, which he assumed my enthusiasm is great, but I need to know the rules. I will report this case to the administrators for violating WP:CONSPIRACY, WP:AGF and WP:COI without any proofs. Fevrret (talk) 19:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Tachfin accusing me to delete comments, I never delete any comment, Tachfin accuse me to be me and Fevrret the same person! Maromania (talk) 20:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  4. ^ "L'expérience photographique d'Achraf Baznani". Al Bayane.Template:Fr icon
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