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"Freaky Flows" mix tape

Clicking on the artwork at the cited link, it displays: "DT the Kingpin and DJ Rhude Present" and a track listing, as well as the title of the work, "Freaky Flows - Seductively Hosted by Karrine Steffans". Yes, 'DT the Kingpin' is the moniker of Dawton, a former King Magazine exec. I see no indication that Stephen Grey, whose moniker is coincidentally Freaky Flow, had anything to do with the production. Xenophrenic (talk) 07:10, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quick web research turns out there are two Datwons that could be related to this item: one is the King mag exec and the other is DJ DaTwon, not listed in Wikipedia. It's clear, from additional sources, that the mixtape was put together by DJ Rhude but it's unclear who "DT" is. It could be that the exec is putting his name on it, as the ultimate sponsor, or that there were two DJs. Or maybe not, since the exec could be moonlighting as a DJ. Or maybe three: There's also a DJ Kingpen (same spelling as on the artwork), to add to the confusion. It could mean that "the Kingpen" is unrelated to the magazine's title. So, best to leave it up as the source has it, I agree. And I was wrong about Freaky Flow; it appears the term is now being used to denote (or claim) an uncommon, "freaky" production (see origin of the DJ's moniker). That mixtape's got nothing to do with the DJ Freaky Flow.-The Gnome (talk) 07:11, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Website update?

Has the location of the personal website been updated? It used to be www.karrine.com, but if I use an indirect link to that site, it maps me over to www.karrineandco.com. Can't tell if the site is active, though. I was going to change the URL in the article, but I'll leave it for now. Xenophrenic (talk) 06:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be active, so I updated the link. Xenophrenic (talk) 17:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Known first as "Superhead". It's her name.

Why is she not listed as Superhead? It's her name. There are hundred's of articles.... I linked to several but fucking Google is a blocked link and I don't want to waste anymore time on this after that little bullshit. WTF Google? Dumbasses. 99.102.213.31 (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not her "name," but a nickname. Relevant info in the most recent archive of the Talk page. -The Gnome (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mention in the song "Love Me" by Lil Wayne

Lil Wayne uses the line "And she the best with that head / Even better then Karrine" in the very popular song "Love Me", so I think this should be mentioned in the article for people who are trying to understand that reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.147.153 (talk) 04:36, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

African American

Do not write a story that she is African American

http://bossip.com/888858/karrine-superhead-steffans-explains-slavery-comments-every-brown-person-is-not-the-same/

Mosfetfaser (talk) 18:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the recent edits by Mosfetfaser and @BrownHairedGirl:, I'm reinstating the more specific "African American" categories. Seeing those cats removed based on a gossip blog ("BOSSIP") is problematic to begin with, but it did prompt me to look into the matter further. I found the actual comments she made in this (Part 2) interview. (Part 1 is here.) Reviewing her comments in the context of the interview, it is clear that she is saying she prefers to self-identify as an "Islander" rather than "African American". When her comments during the interview raised controversy, she further clarified via Twitter and Instagram that she has "African" ancestry, but not "slaves" in her family history. (Flip through the screen captured images; the original tweets are at her Twitter account.) So removing the cats based on her one interview comment, outside of context, isn't supported.
After a very brief search, I see that she has also previously self-identified as an "African-American woman" between the age of 18 and 35, and a "black actress" in other interviews; her 2nd book was published under the GCP African American label; her resume still boasts that she was nominated for the "African American Literary Award"; BlackNews.com lists her as an African American; she's also listed in books on African American Literary Divas and African American Women's Rhetoric ...
Xenophrenic (talk) 21:41, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that she isn't an African-American, she's from the Caribbean. Using "African-American" to describe such people is plain wrong, and the reason why I have always preferred to refer to them as "black". That there are numerous sources that tend to think that all black people are African-American indicates more about their reliability as sources than anything else. When I lived on Bonaire (85% black at the most recent census), it always amused me to hear tourists describe the locals as "African-American" despite the fact that most of them carried Dutch passports. I saw a grand total of two African-Americans during my period there: badly lost and trying to figure out why everyone kept speaking to them in Papiamentu.—Kww(talk) 22:03, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I understand your first sentence. Wikipedia defines the African-American category as: citizens of the United States of black African ancestry. She was born in the United States Virgin Islands. Her father was an African-American from New York, and she has at least some black African great-grandparents - "free Africans" - she asserts. So while she may be able to claim to be "Caribbean" through her mother's side, that doesn't undo her African ancestry, does it? Xenophrenic (talk) 22:49, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To think of Virgin Islanders as "American" is a bit odd: they cannot vote, and are granted a limited form of citizenship as a legislative courtesy. Most Caribbean people that I know would take great exception to the category definition and don't think of themselves as "African" at all. It strikes me as being just another example of how a well-intentioned term wound up being expanded to include people that it didn't apply to because some people started to think of "black" as racist.—Kww(talk) 23:19, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, BOSSIP is a shit source, but the OP is right: Steffans is an Islander, not an African-American. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:44, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of All References to Superhead

Why is "Malik Shabazz" frivolously deleting documented references to Ms. Steffan's alter-ego, Superhead?

A post noting that many people know her as Superhead was accompanied by a YouTube reference which is a video of Ms. Steffans explaining IN HER OWN WORDS why she came up with the Superhead moniker. The reference was then deleted by Shabazz as an "unreliable source".

No matter how hard Shabazz tries to delete references to Superhead it will be futile. Superhead is a legend. Don't fight it... embrace it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.17.106.150 (talk) 02:12, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it makes me wonder if Shabazz is a paid poster who is trying to eliminate the Superhead legacy. Not much chance of that. If you Google Superhead this page is one of the first to show up in search results. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.17.106.23 (talk) 19:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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