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Requested moves is the place to request and vote on article moves that are not straightforward, or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. Normally, logged in users can do uncontroversial moves themselves using the [move] tab found at the top of every page (see Help:Moving a page for more information). However, sometimes this does not work because the target is already occupied (usually in the form of a redirect with a page history). In other situations a move may be controversial and will require discussion to reach a consensus.

Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be implemented if there is a Wikipedia community consensus (generally 60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.

What requested moves are not for:

Before you begin, please note that requested moves are only for moving articles, and sometimes templates. It is not the place for the following:

Unobstructed, uncontroversial moves
Moves of this nature can be accomplished by any logged-in user whose registration was more than 4 days ago. Use the [move] tab located at the top of every page. See Help:Moving a page.
Category move requests
To rename a category, list it on categories for deletion (yes, deletion).
Image move requests
To rename an image, re-upload the image with the name you want, and then change the relevant links to reflect the new name, and then list the old image on images and media for deletion.
Merge requests
To merge two articles, make a request at proposed mergers or be bold and do it yourself.
Cut and paste move fix requests
To request page histories to be merged, list them at cut and paste move repairs.

Steps for requesting a page move

In the following, replace PageName with the name of the page to be moved; NewName with your proposed name; and reason for move with some text explaining your proposal.

Step 1:  Add the request to the list on this page

a.  To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Current proposals subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.

The line should look like:
===[[Day# Month]] [[Year]]===

Using today's date as an example: ===[[23 December]] [[2024]]===


b.  To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add the following two lines at the top of the section under the date line (the second line consists of four hyphens) :

* [[PageName]] → '''[[NewName]]''' — reason for move — [[Talk:PageName]] — ~~~~
----

A handy way to do this is to write the following on an empty line:
{{subst:WP:RM|PageName|NewName|reason for move}}
which will include all the necessary formatting, including your signature. Don't forget the "subst:" at the beginning!


c.  Include the page's name in your edit summary. Save this page.

Step 2:  Add the move template to talk page

Enter the following text at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved:

{{move|NewName}}

If you think a page should be moved, but don't yet know what name it should be given, you can use {{moveoptions}} instead to indicate that there are several options to discuss.


Step 3:  Create a place for discussion

If one does not already exist, create a section on the talk page of the page you want moved for discussion. This can take any form that is reasonable for administrators to follow, but copying the following is suggested. The reason for move should be copied from the entry on the WP:RM page:


==Requested move==
PageName → NewName – {reason for move with signature} copied from the entry on the [[WP:RM]] page
===Survey===
:''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''

===Discussion===
:''Add any additional comments''


If you are proposing that multiple closely related pages should all be moved for the same reason (see #Multiple page moves), it may be advisable to create this discussion on only a single talk page and provide links from the other talk pages to this centralized discussion.

Please include "move proposal" or similar in the edit summary and don't mark it as minor. Consider checking the "Watch this page" box to follow the page in your watchlist. Save the page.


What to do on the article page

If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial – for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation – then update the article's text to reflect the article's new title. For example, if the article were at Blah Blah, but should be at Blah blah, then if the opening sentence began "Blah Blah is a...", you would update it to "Blah blah is a...".

Current proposals

Please list new proposals at the top of today's section (December 23) in the format described above. Actual discussions should take place on the listed talk page, not here.





















- FrancisTyers · 00:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]






  • LinkTVLink TV — reason for move — The President of Link TV, Kim Spencer, has asked me as an employee of Link TV, Ben Fuller, to correct the spelling of the channel. Link TV has a space between Link and TV. It is not one word and whomever created the original article erred in Link TV's spelling. Talk:LinkTVBcalvinf 19:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]







02:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Athletics Track and field Rationale: In North American English, "athletics" means "sports" in general. "Track and field," on the other hand, is used in all dialects of English and is unambiguous. To alleviate any potential confusion, I think we should move the article to "Track and field" and put a disambig page at "Athletics." Please share your opinion at Talk:Athletics. Mwalcoff 03:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]




Uncontroversial request. Done! SoLando (Talk) 13:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]





  • SyracuseSyracuse, Italy — "Syracuse, Italy" was moved to "Syracuse" via a copy and paste, thereby making anyone who searches for "Syracuse" not go to a disambiguation page, but straight to Syracuse in Italy. It is my belief that a disambig is direly needed here because Syracuse, New York is actually larger than Syracuse, Italy, and Syracuse University will also be the desired target of many "Syracuse" searches. The opposition's argument seems to be an assertion that Syracuse, Italy is more important than it's counterpart in New York, and I would not disagree. However it is not more important or notable to a degree that it does not warrant a disambig--the differential is too small. For example, it has not reached such a differential as London, England and London, Ontario have. Also, note that for this to be done, the "Syracuse" page must be turned into a redirect towards the disambig.Talk:Syracuse (disambiguation)AdamBiswanger1 13:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note, the initial move was not done via cut and paste--although there was a subsequent attempt to revert the initial move with a cut and paste move. However, the initial move was done somewhat hastily based on a very limited consensus of article regulars (and in the face of an objection to such a move). I have moved the pages back to their pre-July 3 locations pending the outcome of move discussions. As it currently stands, the requested move is Syracuse, ItalySyracuse and for the disambiguation page to be at Syracuse (disambiguation). Discussion is taking place at Talk:Syracuse olderwiser 14:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Zael vazquez --> change to Zael Vazquez... the name is written that way, last name with a Capital V.





12,900 hits for "Qinghai-Tibet railway" on english.peopledaily.com.cn, as opposed to 4 hits for "Qingzang railway"; the figures for chinadaily.com.cn is 290 to 0 in favour of "Qinghai-Tibet railway"




  • Greek-speaking MuslimsGreek Muslims — The current title is a pleonasm, really. While it is accurate and highlights the fact that very few of these people (and probably none in Turkey), espouse a Greek national identity, they are more often referred to as Greek Muslims, and the Greek Muslims which form part of the Muslim minority in Greece are also referred to as Greek Muslims in Greece, e.g. in this quote from Eleftherotypia [5]: Greek Muslims, Pomaks and Muslims of Turkish origin and national consciousness live in Greece after all. I think that as we have an article on Macedonian Muslims (despite the fact that many of these people, and almost all of them in Albania, espouse an Albanian or other non-ethnic Macedonian national identity), I think that this move should be performed. This move does not risk confusion with the article on the Muslim minority in Greece (which the government accepts is multiethnic [6]) - I have proposed a move on the talk page of that article as well (see Talk:Greek Muslim minority) - and if any ambiguity occurs in this inherently ambiguous area, it can resolved with a disambiguation note. Finally, a Google test seems to show that this name is more common even for the Greek-speaking Muslims in Turkey [7] [8]. — Talk: Greek-speaking Muslims. — --Tēlex 19:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]















Rationale:correct name, Acronyms are all CAPS. Page exists as a redirect and I dont want to screw the history up.False Prophet 17:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]




Or perhaps I jumped the gun... --Lethargy 21:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


  • Carrols corp.Carrols CorporationRationale: I am unclear what this page should be renamed to, either Carrols Corporation or Carrols. According to WP:NC, articles about companies should not use the legal status (i.e. Corporation or Corp.) in the page title. However, from what I can tell, this company is almost exclusively referred to as Carrols Corporation instead of Carrols. See the company website [www.carrols.com]. That is why I feel it should be renamed as Carrols Corporation. Also an article already exists for a different company using the title Carrols. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Carrols corp.. ——Brim 00:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]





  • STVStvRationale: Someone started the article as STV, but many users and the website quote the name as stv (although the title will have to be Stv due to techincal restrictions) … Please share your opinion at Talk:STV. —Sonic 14:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]



BBird 11:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]






Already done !





  • Battle of Deir YassinDeir Yassin MassacreRationale: the accepted and common name for this is Deir Yassin Massacre. Most of the links to other language Wikipedias refer to it in the same way. It was turned into a POV article (sanitized for your protection from anything implicating the Israelis) and moved to a new page with a sanitized title. I can't move it back because the original page has an edit history. I'll deal with fixing the page after it's moved back. Thanks. Rjyanco 01:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • The article now deals with much more than the Massacre, specifically, the battle leading up to it, and various other events not associated specifically with the massacre. In that light, the requested move doesn't make sense. Jayjg (talk) 04:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]




  1. Not all the games described are German - they just led the field during the 1990s.
  2. Not all the games described are board games
  3. The only thing the games have in common is that they credit the designer

It's also worth noting that at least two other wikipedias, including , use a name meaning "Designer game". … Please share your opinion at Talk:German-style board game. —Percy Snoodle 13:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]





  • SymbologySymbology in Fiction ... Rationale: The discussion is largely related to how this word is used in the Da Vinci Code and other fictional contexts. There is actually a word "Symbology". Please read the changes I made to this article. Perhaps adding a discussion section at the top, above the Da Vinci Code section would help. I consider this to be a disputed or controversial article the way it is currently written. It makes it sound like there is no such academic theory/model of "symbology" which there clearly is. Also, I'd like to make changes to the definition, but I can't. 29 June 2006




  • KaechŏnKaechonRationale: This is a North Korean city. The name under which the article is currently at is neither the English common spelling (which has no diacritics) nor the correct transliteration under the McCune-Reischauer system (which has an apostrophe), so in essence it's an incorrect name. Since the articles for other North Korean cities like Chongjin, Hamhung, etc. use the common English spellings, this should be done for Kaechon also. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Kaechŏn. —KittySaturn 21:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]



















  • Bombtrack (Type of song)BombtrackRationale: A "bombtrack" is an actual object, and therefore the title of Bombtrack should belong to this object. I've been having trouble moving it on my own. I successfully moved the original "Bombtrack" article to "Bombtrack (song)" and fixed all the corresponding links, but I'm having trouble moving "Bombtrack_(Type of song)" to "Bombtrack" on account of Bombtrack's persistant existance. (I removed the redirect tag, so now "Bombtrack" is just a blank article.) I don't know how to do this, but it looks like it would be as simple as deleting the Bombtrack article then moving Bombtrack_(Type of song) to Bombtrack, which will be nonexistant. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Bombtrack (Type of song). —Torvik 02:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I botched the request, didn't follow procedure, and didn't put the requisite Talk notice. However, I just fixed the oversight. Sorry about that. -- Gogo Dodo 04:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]



















  • VC-10VC10. Rationale: "VC10" is the manufacturer's type designation as evident from sources quoted at the foot of the article, contemporary advertising (follow VC10derness link at foot of article), and standard references such as Jane's All the World's Aircraft and Flight Internationals of the period. "VC-10" is the aircraft's adopted designation by the RAF which is internal to that armed service. "VC-10" is also a very common and excusable solecism. This is therefore a plea for the current article (VC-10) to be transferred to the current redirect (VC10), leaving it as a redirect page. Livedvalid 18:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose:
  1. The source page is only a redirect.
  2. There is no notification on the talk page.
  3. All sources that I have use VC-10 rather than VC10 anyway.
GW_Simulations|User Page | Talk | Contribs | E-mail 18:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel we have reached a consensus: 4 support, one "strong" oppose. The current Bear Lake should be moved back to Bear Lake (disambiguation), and the Bear Lake (Idaho-Utah) article moved into its spot. --Lethargy 22:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]



  • Proposal not currently completed (no talk-page setup). "Abbey Road" used to refer to the studios (along Abbey Road, London) where the Beatles recorded, so suggest status quo remains. David Kernow 12:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Scientific mythologyScientific folkloreRationale: Same as for the now-renamed Tornado myths, as laid out on Talk:Tornado myths, this isn't mythology at all, far from it. It is more a series of legends and urban legends, not myths, a myth being "a cultural or religious narrative with deep symbological meaning". Furthermore, the title "Scientific mythology" implies that there exist a collection of such stories under a common category, and that it is studied by mythologists, which doesn't and it isn't. The pagename is erroneous, and as such contradicts the Wikipedia article on Mythology; and as a core topic, that won't do at all. Please share your opinion at Talk:Scientific mythologyLemegeton 11:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]





Old discussions

--Claude 09:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

requested more info-- Kim van der Linde at venus 22:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Procedure for admins

See Wikipedia:Moving guidelines for administrators.

Additional notes

Multiple page moves

For single page moves with more than one option for the destination name:

For block moves:

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

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