User talk:Nerdy Community Dude

Hi. On my talk page, try to only ever edit your own comments. Never delete a comment just because it appears rude to me. I prefer to read everything. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:17, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 2014

Your first day editing and you choose to read people's minds and assign their actions motives without any prior communication? We'd really like your help with the articles; I'm thinking that would be more constructive than stirring up controversy. Tiderolls 15:39, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry! I didn't know I was misrepresenting you, please forgive me!

If that edit was still there, I would delete the part where I speculated on your thoughts. But it's deleted.

Have a nice day!

PS: I'm far from a perfect person, we all know. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To anyone reading this: does my last sentence above make sense? I think it's grammatically correct, but it sounds odd. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Far from perfect" would be better. We know you're a person. Being far from a perfect one may mean there's one across the globe. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:31, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

I see, thanks. Heh, I must be one of those people with a habit of adding meaningless words which make my sentences long. Nerdy Community Dude ^{my edits}_talk 14:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please stop? Your comments aren't constructive, and are just getting in the way of discussing the real issue. You're not helping things. Sergecross73 msg me 01:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for your time, but in my very honest opinion I feel they are constructive. I think most people find many other people's comments nonconstructive. It's a issue with any community: you're not going to like what some people have to say.

I think if I want to have a constructive discussion here, I should go into the details of why my comments are/aren't constructive, instead of just saying "my comments are constructive" or "my comments aren't constructive."

I know sometimes I don't like others' comments. It is a very frustrating feeling indeed. And when I can't get my message across that I don't like their comments, I feel bad. So I know you feel bad now. Sorry. I've been in your shoes before. But unfortunately this isn't something so simple, where you can simply give a polite note to me and I'll say "oh, sorry, I'll stop," because the thing is I think my comments are constructive. We can discuss as much as you'd like, as this is the internet. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 01:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if we're talking about the same thing or not. I'm saying, your comments at User talk:Lukejordan02 are getting in the way of actual discussion. You don't seem involved, no one's talking to you, and you're just kind of going about on your own personal musings while the editor is asking questions. Sergecross73 msg me 01:59, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I guess sometimes you're right, and no one's talking to me this time. Generally comments which no one responds to do not benefit the discussion. However, I can't ever guarantee people will respond to what I say, so, you know, the idea is to say things I think are constructive, and check if they are. Sometimes I'm wrong.

I agree it's very annoying to keep musing over one's own comments, distracting everyone else from talking. And I'm very sorry about that. I should learn not to reply more if my first reply is not listened to, that is indeed a huge room for improvement for me (albeit not the only one!). You're overall criticism of me in my opinion is constructive. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:07, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting discussion, although shame we had to stop otherwise the admin would have probably blocked us. Am sure Luke doesn't mind. He'd be excited to see the messages. Probably. :)

147.143.95.28 (talk) 18:38, 8 October 2014 (UTC) @147.143.95.28: Thanks! PS: your :) did not display properly heh. Also I wonder if my {{ping|147.143.95.28}} worked or not... Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 20:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed! And nope, the ping back didn't work.

ty lol Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 20:43, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Question

Okay, you've been editing for almost a week now. I don't see a single edit to an article. Virtually ever edit is meddling in other people's affairs. What exactly is your purpose here? Im starting to get a vibe here... Care to prove me wrong? Sergecross73 msg me 23:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry.

You're absolutely right. I haven't made a single edit to an article.
My purpose here is not to edit articles.
I can't prove anything

Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 23:19, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

...Is that your final word on things...? Conceding that you're not here to build an encyclopedia is going to get you blocked... Sergecross73 msg me 23:52, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not here to edit articles, but I am here to build an encyclopedia. Also, if there is a policy about having no edits to articles, I wouldn't mind you showing it here. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 23:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the problem. The problem is that all you do us meddle in others problems and complaining about the website. Can you explain to me your plans for building the encyclopedia? Sergecross73 msg me 00:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, my meddling amounts to contributing uninvolved input. But I know you disagree and feel it's simply meddling. I want to help with Wikipedia, but I'm not someone with farsighted plans for this. Thanks for chatting, I do actually like it when somebody's curious about me. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 00:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are places where you can volunteer where people are actually looking for input. WP:VILLAGEPUMP, WP:3O, WP:DRN, WP:RFC. RFC or VP is probably where is recommend starting. But if all you're going to do is replicate the actions of this past week, where you more or less just get in the way of others discussions, then you're going to be blocked, per WP:NOTHERE. Sergecross73 msg me 00:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for trying to be helpful, but I honestly don't see why adding in people's talkpages would be more disruptive. Come to think about it, I would understand how people may find it acceptable to chat on people's talkpages but not those formal discussion forums. If my comments are spam, and they aren't helpful, the talk page owner should at least sometimes delete them, but I don't think that happened before. I don't think I'm getting in the way of discussions. But maybe I am. Maybe you're right. Because the truth is many people are better off not commenting on many discussions. Maybe I'm one of them. But everyone disagrees whose input is contributing and whose is not, so we should both bear with comments we don't like, and give others the benefit of doubt.

After all, you agree it's acceptable to give input, and even gave me helpful suggestions for better places in your opinion. So maybe you know all of this already and I'm just reiterating your position. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 01:02, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that so many of your comments are like this. It's far more focused on complaining about admin in general than actually solving any sort of problem. You're not helping conversations, you're commonly derailing them with semi-relevant musings and complaining. If that's going to be the extent of your "help", this isn't going to work out. Sergecross73 msg me 01:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's my personal comment to Lukejordan02. It's based on what I've seen, these things usually go ugly and I don't want him to be disappointed. Turns out I was actually wrong. In hindsight, I would not make this comment in particular if I knew the turnout. As it is a personal comment, the purpose is not to solve the admin problem I'm complaining about. That's an age old issue on the internet and I kind of feel I may be foolish to try... solving it.

I absolutely disagree that I'm derailing the conversations. I think to derail a conversation, one makes other people's points unclear and hinders the expected responses to questions. I was not doing that. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:15, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever words you want to use to describe, your commentary was neither helpful towards coming to a resolution, nor was it requested, nor did it involve you. Much like your comments on Luke's page today, or virtually any of the discussions you've entered here so far. Thus, why I am here. Im pretty certain you get what I'm driving at here. You've been given multiple alternate approaches here. The rest is up to you. Sergecross73 msg me 02:49, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may think that I'm just acting like I don't understand what you mean--and if you're right--if that is indeed what I'm doing, I'd be a very annoying person. I understand how you'll be very frustrated given how you picture this discussion--as any human you should be. But you're wrong. I never pretended not to understand "what [you're] driving at here." Your point was very clear: I'm not helpful, and the discussions would be better off without me. You said it and I've summarized it before. The problem is, I continuously disagreed with it and I made counterpoints on how just because you (and other people here) disagree with how I add my input, doesn't show I have a problem.

I still want to thank you for taking some of your time to compile a list of alternative approaches. But I feel maybe if I only comment on one of WP:VILLAGEPUMP, WP:3O, WP:DRN, WP:RFC, I wouldn't be much more welcome, and some people like you from there will think that's not right of me.

Also, I really regret not explaining this to you earlier, but I like commenting on user talk pages because I felt it would be a place of reduced controversy, were I can give personal advice to people without being called for distracting the discussion. Logically that should be the place... That's just my personal wager.

Wait, actually I forgot to address a few more points. I think whether or not my opinion was requested, and whether I'm involved, is not the key issue. I think you discussed before how uninvolved input is fine. And I believe few opinions are ever requested... Thank you for having the patience here, I know you don't like being here but you're someone who respect the responsibility to respond to me. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 04:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

interesting, thanks for that Sergecross73. I think I'll offer to help out there too. I'd like to give input etc. (thanks again, genuinely helpful! And yes, I'm sure you are aware when you see one of my accounts etc, but I get the feelings you just let me be. But thats it now, I'm going to leave you alone. Have a nice life!

Yes, leave him alone, don't let things go ugly or do anything hurtful, Wikipedia is just some random website wherein people talk like it's a big deal. I don't know what they did to you (given what I've seen, including an alleged case of someone committing suicide for being banned/baited on a similar website). It's possible they did something worse to you, and you're understandable... But the thing is you're making only other people think badly about you. If you actually win in this, you'll drive people to tears. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 06:54, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

People do seem to take this a lot more seriously than is warranted. I mean, its not like people use this for serious study or anything. I mean it can be good for finding links to original articles, maybe, but then it can be upsetting too. I dunno where I stand, but I certainly don't like the idea of external website 'bating, thats just mean. And is anything really worth that - I mean being hurtful, or indeed suicide - let alone crying. I'm still not sure where I stand on it, but I think I agree with all of you. For various different reasons, as you each have you pros, and subsequent cons. Although thats an infinite problem of man, or invite problems only which only have quintessential, finite solutions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.143.95.28 (talk) 13:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's nothing so serious. I blocked that person for a few days due to personal attacks and edit warring, and ever since, he's been throwing a tantrum, following me around, and making silly comments. That's all. It happens. Sergecross73 msg me 13:27, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be interested to see that policy too. Care to show me that too please? Seems like many of the Wiki policies are exceptionally subjective. Have to wonder why many people prefer to edit behind an IP rather than sign up for an account. 87.114.181.58 (talk) 00:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways, sorry for being too sarcastic when I said "I wouldn't mind you showing it here." I shouldn't say that in the future.Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 00:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That part wasn't that bad, people say that sort of thing a lot. I do hope you take my advice seriously though, and start discussing things at the appropriate venues. Sergecross73 msg me 00:58, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's nice of you. But if you do feel I shouldn't have said that, I should be welcome to hear you express something. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 04:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Images needing articles

I notice you haven't yet edited in the mainspaceyet. I thought you might be interested in starting one of these articles:

Wikipedia:Requested articles/Images

Please let me know if you need any help. Anna F remote (talk) 01:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the suggestion! But sorry it turns out I'm not the person who prefers working this way. Ty for offering help. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What she offers you is actually the opposite - the image is already supplied, but there is no article yet. Sergecross73 msg me 02:27, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry ppl, I changed that. Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 02:29, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious about your motives.Are you here to improve Wikipedia or complain about it's editors? Because recently I've seen you taking part in discussions,expressing your opinions about other users.And all I can see on your contributions page is talk page edits.--Chamith (talk) 10:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're absolutely right, I only have contributions in talk pages (and a few other pages). Everything you say here is well observed.

It's very natural to be curious about the motives of someone newly involved in things. You're not the only one wondering about me. But I wouldn't say there's dichotomy... after all, if editing others' talk pages doesn't improve Wikipedia, then why do we have them at all? Why not private messages? Nerdy Community Dude _talk^{my edits} 17:15, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How do I send you a friend request on this thing? 147.143.95.28 (talk) 18:48, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]