Talk:The Imitation Game

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Military history: War films Start‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

Start

This article has been rated as Start-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has not yet been checked against the criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar and style: not checked Supporting materials: not checked	To fill out this checklist, please add the following code to the template call: \| b1<!--Referencing and citation--> = <yes/no> \| b2<!--Coverage and accuracy --> = <yes/no> \| b3<!--Structure --> = <yes/no> \| b4<!--Grammar and style --> = <yes/no> \| b5<!--Supporting materials --> = <yes/no> assessing the article against each criterion.

Associated task forces:
/
	War films task force

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Film: British / War / American Start‑class

	Film portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Film. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the guidelines.FilmWikipedia:WikiProject FilmTemplate:WikiProject Filmfilm
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
	This article is supported by the British cinema task force.
	This article is supported by the War films task force.
	This article is supported by the American cinema task force.
	This article needs an image (preferably free) related to the subject, such as a picture of the set or a film poster. Please ensure that non-free content guidelines are properly observed.

Synopsis directly lifted from press release

Is it commonplace to copy/paste the synopsis of a film directly from the press release? I'm not entirely sure how to get started, but the oblique reference to "a now outdated criminal offence" seems unnecessarily vague consider the homosexuality of Alan Turing is commented on in the rest of the article, and considering the phrasing is exactly that in the publicized material linked to. Hpgross (talk) 05:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Argument over which teaser poster to use

The following is copying from here.

The one with Cumberbatch's mug is a CHARACTER POSTER which means that all the principal cast will have one. Are you also going to change it when they release Keira Knightley's character poster? She's co-lead in the billing. OF COURSE NOT. The teaser poster should be the primary poster until an official theatrical poster is released. From the official twitter account of the film the poster is categorized as a CHARACTER POSTER: https://twitter.com/ImitationGame/status/515198380138430464 Porsche Mom (talk) 08:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Who says Knightley will get one? Fact is, the Cumberbatch poster is the one used by all the major outlets as the primary promotional image at this time, and that's the image that should be used here. Film Fan 01:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The very fact that it's called by the official Twitter account as a character poster automatically suggest that it's one of the many. This is common knowledge with posters. And the fact that other outlets use the one with Cumberbatch's mug shouldn't be an indicator that Wiki should do the same. The teaser poster or the theatrical poster (not yet released) should be the one used not a character poster where there are sure to be many versions released int he future.Porsche Mom (talk) 01:35, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The poster with Cumberbun's mug is the current teaser poster. You can make assumptions all day about possible other character posters maybe coming up, but that doesn't always happen and sometimes a "character poster" is more than a character poster. This is one of those cases. You have no argument till I see a poster of Knightley. Film Fan 02:29, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The poster with Cumberbun's mug is the current teaser poster." -Film Fan

NO it's not, per official film account, this one (bombe machine, Cumberbatch's back) is the one categorized as an "international teaser poster" https://twitter.com/ImitationGame/status/512665249699213312. And the one with Cumberbatch's mug, is a mere character poster, again, from official twitter account https://twitter.com/ImitationGame/status/515198380138430464. You can make assumptions and wrong descriptions all you want, but from these official statements, the one with the bombe machine with Cumberbatch's back is the international teaser poster and should be used for the article.Porsche Mom (talk) 04:44, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter is not a WP:RS, plus the fact that the first one is a teaser poster doesn't mean that the second one isn't also. It's common practice for there to be more than one teaser poster before the main poster. And the second one is the one currently used to promote the film, so that should be the one used at Wikipedia, too. Why is there a problem here? Film Fan 14:29, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And the second one is the one currently used to promote the film. -Film Fan

Oh really? Who says? You?

Oh, I see. Don't consider the official, verified Twitter account of the film as a reliable source? Well then, here's The Telegraph description of the character poster (adds up to the official, verified Twitter description) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/11120975/Benedict-Cumberbatch-in-The-Imitation-Game-exclusive-poster.html and Empire coverage of the teaser poster (surprise! also adds up to the official, verified Twitter description) http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42190. Unless a theatrical poster is unveiled anytime soon, the primary image should be the teaser poster and not a mere character poster.Porsche Mom (talk) 07:03, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, by the way, here's Keira Knightley's own character poster (http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/news/celebrity/2014/10/06/keira-knightley-the-imitation-game-poster-exclusive?metaOverrideBlob=1271401) I do wonder when they'll release Matthew Goode's, Mark Strong's, etc. :)Porsche Mom (talk) 11:30, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You want to sort out how you converse with others, pal. Film Fan 01:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Porsche Mom (talk) 02:19, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, we have another disagreement over which poster to use. The UK theatrical poster has been released and should be the poster used since this is a primarily British film. International posters should only be used when country-specific posters are unavailable -- not to mention the clear preference for theatrical posters with credits over teaser posters. We're wasting breath over a cut-and-dry sitation here. Film Fan 01:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you research first, this was produced and financed by Black Bear Pictures (http://blackbearpictures.com/), an American production company based in New York. The producers of the film are all American (Schwartzman, Grossman, OStrowsky). The below-the-line crew are Tyldum (Norway), Goldenberg (US), Desplat (France), Faura (Spain), etc. The cast may be primarily British because it's British-set film and is a British story but that doesn't make it a solely British film. Heck, the screenwriter is even American (Graham Moore). It's not just about the cast. And if you want official source that it's a US/UK film and not just a UK one just check the film's profiles in festivals like this one at TIFF (http://www.tiff.net/festivals/thefestival/programmes/specialpresentations/the-imitation-game) See? US ~and UK. The poster should be representative and inclusive of that. Thus, the international teaser poster should be used.Porsche Mom (talk) 02:13, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did the research. It's still primarily British. And a teaser poster should never be used over a theatrical poster with credits. Film Fan 03:25, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, if you need additional opinions about the poster, you can post a notice at WT:FILM. Other editors can also weigh in about the film's nationality; there have been quite a few nationality discussions in the past with other films. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 04:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong date for UK premiere?

In the info box at the right, the United Kingdom release date is listed as "November 14, 2014". Not sure where that information comes from, but it's not from that reference link, which only mentions the U.S. release of November 21. The actual London date is the day after tomorrow, Wednesday, October 8th -- which I learned from a family member of one of the producers, who is now in England to attend the event (yes, I know; that's "original research", which is not allowed), but it is also in this press release from BFI: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/announcements/imitation-game-will-open-58th-bfi-london-film-festival. Maybe someone who knows how to fix this (I don't) can do it? 71.204.84.204 (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's just the European premiere for the London Film Festival. It will not open wide in cinemas until November 14 in the UK.180.191.69.231 (talk) 09:59, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! That would explain it. Thanks.71.204.84.204 (talk) 15:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]