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Water supply and sanitation in the Palestinian territories
Coould you explain what you found nonconstructive about my edit which you reverted? An opinion from an advocacy group was presented as fact in Wikipedia's voice, I attributed it to the group. Here come the Suns (talk) 18:28, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- You need to add a reference for that statement. Just saying "according to ..." is not good enough. Turgan Talk 18:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is a refernce threre - which points to " Dispossession and Exploitation: Israel's Policy in the Jordan Valley and Northern Dead Sea, p. 24-26. B'Tselem, May 2011" Here come the Suns (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out the reference. I will stand by my revision, though, as your edit does not really add anything other than unnecessary bias and personal opinion to the statement. Turgan Talk 20:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, is it "my opinion" that this statement is attributable to Btselem, or is that a fact? Shouldn't opinions by advocacy groups be attributed to them? Here come the Suns (talk) 20:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that the reference to the statement is from B'Tselem attributes it to them without needing to add "according to ...". What I considered the personal opinion was the comment due to what they say. What this in effect does is imply they said this, but I don't necessarily agree or they are wrong. Both are unnecessary additions and take away from, rather than add to the flow of the article. Turgan Talk 20:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, maybe I have this wrong. Prior to making this edit, I edited Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States - https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States&diff=prev&oldid=611411309, to remove a similar "what he describes". This was promptly reverted by an editor Sean Holyland, who added it back with a comment that it needs to be "properly attributed". So I did the same here - and it is again reverted? Why? Here come the Suns (talk) 20:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that the reference to the statement is from B'Tselem attributes it to them without needing to add "according to ...". What I considered the personal opinion was the comment due to what they say. What this in effect does is imply they said this, but I don't necessarily agree or they are wrong. Both are unnecessary additions and take away from, rather than add to the flow of the article. Turgan Talk 20:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, is it "my opinion" that this statement is attributable to Btselem, or is that a fact? Shouldn't opinions by advocacy groups be attributed to them? Here come the Suns (talk) 20:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing out the reference. I will stand by my revision, though, as your edit does not really add anything other than unnecessary bias and personal opinion to the statement. Turgan Talk 20:17, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is a refernce threre - which points to " Dispossession and Exploitation: Israel's Policy in the Jordan Valley and Northern Dead Sea, p. 24-26. B'Tselem, May 2011" Here come the Suns (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
you suck
btw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.7.60.54 (talk) 15:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your useful contribution. Turgan Talk 17:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Turgan,
Actually I am the person who does PR for Drew and Shannon. They never authorized this page nor do they approve of the content and so I pulled all of it.
We would prefer the page be deleted because they no longer go by Drew and Shannon; however, if that cannot happen, would you please leave all of the area blank until we can re-edit it?
Thanks,
SRW — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southsideworldwide (talk • contribs) 18:59, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hi. Actually, they don't have to authorize the page. Any page on a notable subject can be created by anyone as long as they can provide independant references to verify notability. Additionaly, you have just admitted to a conflict of interest with regards to that page, therefore you shouldn't be making signigficant edits to it as per Wikipedia policies to ensure neutrality, indepenance and no self-promotion. If they no longer go by Drew and Shannon, then that page can be redirected to a new page if and when it is created. Cheers, Turgan Talk 14:05, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Why edit summaries are important
Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. 64.4.93.100 (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- If you use a detailed edit summary, then your edits wont get reverted. Actually say why you blank a section in the summary. Not just "talk page". Section blanking is typically reverted quickly. After seeing your reason on the talk page, I agree that my revert was an error and I apologize for that, however a couple of extra words in the edit summary would have avoided the revert, especially where you already had warnings for section blanking. Turgan Talk 15:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- I only had warnings for section blanking because of another careless patroller. The reason is explained on the talk page so that's good enough as an edit summary and you should have checked before undoing my edit. Thank you for apologizing at least. 64.4.93.100 (talk) 15:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Rachel Reilly
What did you mean that the links are broken? Did I do some sort of typo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.178.78.200 (talk) 22:55, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- the pages don't exist. the links you provided don't work. Turgan Talk 04:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Friend Reply
Hai,good morning Joyful sudarshan (talk) 02:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
I want to delete content - yet to submit
I am yet to submit. I want to delete the article. I have realized that it is not suited for wikipedia.41.58.26.201 (talk) 00:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Thank you for the message regarding your intentions. Unfortunately the article and all of the edits to it were undertaken by user:BUNMIAWOYEMI, where as you are trying to delete the article as an anonymous user. I have no way to verify that you are in fact BUNMIAWOYEMI. I suggest you log in as that user and blank the article as that user. Replace the content with {{db-author}} while logged in as BUNMIAWOYEMI and it will be a done deal. Cheers, Turgan Talk 00:42, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Barry Simon
I mentioned that Barry Simon has 5 children and 14 grandchildren, and you removed it because it didn't have a source. I happen to know this because I have met some of his grand kids and was told this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.3.38.187 (talk) 20:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Information posted to wikipedia needs an independant verifiable published source. Hearsay does not qualify as a valid source. Turgan Talk 20:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
I am related to one of his friends. The next time I was in LA, I asked Professor Simon if it was true, and he said that he really does have 5 kids and 14 grandkids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.3.38.187 (talk) 20:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Still is not independantly verifiable. Sorry. Turgan Talk 20:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Can you share any insights into my concern? Bearian (talk) 16:09, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
me
stop sending me messages you fucken creep.
Your reversion.
Having been here for seven years, I would've thought you'd have developed the practice of going into greater detail than "I didn't think it was constructive, so I got rid of it".
The Scottish Gaelic translation (one of two extant '"traditional" languages of Scotland) of "Scottish People" was included - I added in the Scots translation (the other extant one), and you revert it because you don't think it's constructive to include the much more relevant and used language alongside the other, presumably? Not only that, you have the arrogance and cheek to neglect explaining yourself beyond the most opaque, bluntest of statements?
I think an explanation of both reasoning and behaviour are required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.1.218.206 (talk) 17:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- I am sorry you feel I did not go into enough detail. When reverting what appears to be vandalism from an anonymous user, that is normal practice, as the clean-up is typically more important than a detailed explanation that will not even be read by an actual vandal. If that is in fact a proper translation, I apologize for removing it. It appeared similar in nature to much of the vandalism we see every day, and I am unable to verify it as a proper translation. Turgan Talk 18:08, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Pilgrim
My Bad I Was Doing An Essay An It Must Have Edited It — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.184.14.5 (talk) 19:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
What was wrong with my edit to Chief Joseph
I just put the name Chief Joseph in the box? 50.178.123.12 (talk) 19:53, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Edit to Chris Hedges
Hi Turgan, I understand your concern, but I think my edit more accurately reflects that person's role (important note: I don't personally think any of the terms I included are necessarily negative). That said, I'm fine with leaving your version as is for now (I'll think more about what the right neutral language is). Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.177.20.2 (talk) 22:23, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Edit to Women in Islam
Regarding your complaint about the edit made to "Women in Islam":
I am so sorry. I actually don't remember making that edit, and as a religious studies scholar, it's not something I would say. This does add to my concerns about who did do it, if it wasn't me (someone using my IP address?) but I can assure you I would never make such an offensive claim about Islam, and I'm sorry that whoever used my IP address is not as professional.
Peace and light. 50.250.140.237 (talk) 17:35, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Vandalism
You took down a post because it was "vandalism" please explain what I did wrong. There was nothing inappropriate or out of place with my post