User talk:FreeRangeFrog

Private

Thanks FRF for your adjustments to the Andrew Jarecki page. Is it possible for me to email or message you privately? Andrew Jarecki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elliot36 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Unless you are planning to share some information that cannot be made public (which is probably not necessary in this case), we prefer to handle everything here in the open. Fixes to articles and content issues should be discussed here. Otherwise, you can email me with the link on the left-hand of the screen. Your subsequent edits to the article are OK, given how poorly they were sourced. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

To expand on this... it doesn't matter who is making the edits or why. There is no need to justify removal other than when seeking consensus, and that has to happen here in any case. What matters is whether or not the information is appropriate given our policies. Neutrality, quality sourcing and undue weight are what I considered when I removed that mess on the bio. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:22, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Another user who keeps on making unsourced BLP's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hexbooter#Unsourced_BLP.27s just sent a note too! Wgolf (talk) 20:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

And another user!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lemieuxpilon4dart Even just recreated one that was just deleted Wgolf (talk) 20:02, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Both warned. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 20:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, FreeRangeFrog. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

WikiEditorP (talk) 10:22, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

A SPI report that has been going on since earlier today

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sangeeth sugathan There is this page that has been created by at least 2 users that has been deleted a couple times with different names each time. (Which includes Sangeeth s and Sangeeth S as well). Wgolf (talk) 05:17, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

@WGolf: Well, the article was deleted previously as A3 and it doesn't look like the accounts were used in bad faith... the latest version should probably be taken to AFD. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 15:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DeskAlerts

Hi FreeRangeFrog, You deleted my page. I requested that it not be deleted or that someone give me some constructive feedback to improve my page. I'm confused as to why my page was deleted when I've seen dozens (and I'm sure there are hundreds more) of high tech corporate pages?

Would you please let me know? I worked hard on that page and I would like to put it back up. I was also working on another tech page...so I could really use some constructive feedback on how to get it back up. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Best wishes, --WikiGuru100 (talk) 19:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

The sandbox talk page is still there, and I posted a comment. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DeskAlerts

Hi FreeRangeFrog, Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. I researched and got some facts on the websites/articles I used for citations:

Recruiter -- Has 350k monthly visitors and is a third-party, impartially written article CIO Review -- Is both a print and online publication based in the Bay Area (thus it has expertise in the high tech arena) Enterprise Systems Journal -- 50k UV monthly WebWorks is not impressive, I will remove it. TMCnet.com -- 3.5mm readers monthly MrWeb -- the UK’s biggest MR recruitment medium, ie since the year 2000 our ads have helped to fill more UK MR jobs than any magazine, newspaper or any other Web site

I will smooth out the business jargon so that it reads more neutral. Would you please put it back up and let me continue to work on it? --WikiGuru100 (talk) 20:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

DeskAlerts...formatted :)

• • formatted for your viewing pleasure**
    

Hi FreeRangeFrog,
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. I researched and got some facts on the websites/articles I used for citations:

• • Recruiter -- Has 350k monthly visitors and is a third-party, impartially written article
    
  • CIO Review -- Is both a print and online publication based in the Bay Area (thus it has expertise in the high tech arena)
    
  • Enterprise Systems Journal -- 50k UV monthly
    
  • WebWorks is not impressive, I will remove it.
    
  • TMCnet.com -- 3.5mm readers monthly
    
  • MrWeb -- the UK’s biggest MR recruitment medium, ie since the year 2000 their ads have helped to fill more UK MR jobs than any magazine, newspaper or any other Web site
    

I will smooth out the business jargon so that it reads more neutral. Would you please put it back up and let me continue to work on it?

I have another page I would like to do...I would love to be a frequent Wiki contributor. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiGuru100 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC) --WikiGuru100 (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

OK, restored. Please edit the article to make it less promotional, make sure you have some kind of assertion of basic importance there, or someone will tag it for deletion again. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 00:43, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Paul Jacobs

Hey FreeRangeFrog. I was wondering if you could provide a second opinion on whether we should remove this BLP's compensation to respect his privacy, or merely source it as a matter of public interest. There are plenty of reliable sources,[1][2][3][4] but none that I have found suggest the information is a huge matter of public interest. OTOH, he was the CEO of a Fortune 500 public company for eight years and a person in that position has their compensation publicly available as a matter of governance. CorporateM (Talk) 23:33, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

@CorporateM: Removed. Not sure what the point of that was. In some cases compensation of a CEO might be a contentious issue due to mismanagement or corporate performance, but without such context it's nothing more than trivia. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 23:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

ok, thanks. It looks like he took a 25% cut during an industry-wide slow-down, then bumped back up 25% a few years later. He is listed highly in rankings, but not with any specific criticisms or context that I've seen so far. CorporateM (Talk) 23:56, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, that would be a good example of context (positive in this case I suppose), but otherwise it shouldn't even be there. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 23:59, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

RS Components - French

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

I am writing in regards, to the deletion french version of the RS Components:

Here is the UK version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS_Components

This is simply a french version of the page with similar content. Allowing the information available in multiple languages.

Please let me know the best course of action.

Kind regards,

Franklin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franklin Adcock (talk • contribs) 09:28, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

You know there's a French Wikipedia right? That's where that goes. We don't speedy delete articles because they're in another language, but I can read just enough French to know that it was indeed written as a brochure or press release rather than an encyclopedic article. And quite frankly the existing English one is not much better. I don't know what the content policies are are in the French Wikipedia and I don't know if they'll accept something so badly written, but in any case that's where your article goes, not here. If you want the deleted text let me know. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 16:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank You

I will be working on the DeskAlerts page over the next week to fix it. Thank you very much!--WikiGuru100 (talk) 15:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Reconsideration Request

Dear FreeRangeFrog,

I uploaded an article on straightline.in on Wikipedia a few days back. Being a happy customer of the website, I thought I should write on it (as there were no pages on the same). I do not have any connection with their website whatsoever and was taken aback when my article was labelled as promotional. Would you be kind enough to help me understand, what seemed promotional so that I can rectify it and get the page uploaded.Souvikchelsea1 (talk) 10:04, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

The article was written in a promotional tone that read like a PR release, although I will admit it had secondary sources rather than primary ones, but the wording on what you were paraphrasing was all wrong. I question your claim that you have no connection to them given that you wrote "The Technological Leverage to this website is provided by IBM and Cognizant" - it's difficult to know the technology behind a website unless they happen to be promoting it. Nevertheless, creating a draft and submitting it for review would probably be a good idea. You can do that here. If you want the original text let me know and I can email it to you. I won't restore it though, because it will be tagged for the same thing immediately. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:10, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Request for reconsideration of deleted page User:Shashank.S.Shukla

Dear Sir; My User Page by the name of User:Shashank.S.Shukla was deleted quoting blatant misuse. I have no intention of misusing Wikipedia as I respect it as a resource base. I however want to continue working on wikipedia. I am not sure how I can do that without a page. I may humbly request that if any content on my page was objectionable then that should have been deleted instead of deleting the page itself. Thanks in advance and apologies for any inconvenience.

Regards; Shashank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashank.S.Shukla (talk • contribs) 14:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

What you have there now is acceptable, considering you have less than 10 edits to the whole of the encyclopedia. What you had there before was not acceptable, because you had less than 10 edits to the encyclopedia. See how that works? §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:02, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

It's not a hoax, Kim Jung Un has not been seen in public since Sept. 3, 2014

This is no hoax, Kim Jung Un has mysteriously disappeared from public view. Every major news agency has an article about it. Example: from the NEW YORK TIMES

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, who has been absent from public view for more than a month, skipped an important annual ritual on Friday, a development likely to fuel further speculation about whether he has lost his grip on power.

The state news media hinted Friday that he might be ill though still in charge, lending support to one of the many theories swirling among analysts, the media and others who closely watch the nuclear-armed and notoriously opaque nation. Friday was the anniversary of the founding of the governing Worker’s Party and he ordinarily would have been expected to visit the mausoleum where his grandfather — the country’s founder — and his father lie in state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.93.158 (talk) 03:59, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

It takes a lot more than your opinion and a few news stories to create an article like that. We're not a blog. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 04:19, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Opinion and advice

How are you doing FreeRangeFrog? Sir I seek for your opinion on certain issues. Three weeks ago, there was a report against me at ANI where various concern were raised on my edit behavior particularly about one NAC of a controversial discussion. Other concerned include my hostile tones on Newbies. prior to the report, I had learn not to be harsh on newbies or any editor based on the advice you left on my talk page about my tone when replying your msg. But they acted on my old habit. Some raised a suggestion that I should not patrol NP, as this will limit my encounter with newbies but unknown to them, your note on my talk page has change my orientation on how to interact with Newbies. Luckily for me, I was not sanction at the end of the discussion which lasted for two good weeks. Having learn from my mistake, I intend to patrol NP and your brotherly opinion and advice will count on this decision. Thanks. Wikicology (talk) 16:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

The best advice I can give you is to not take things personally, and maybe volunteer for the Teahouse for a while. If you were not banned by consensus from NPP then you can still do it, although if the same things start happening you can and will probably be sanctioned. Just be careful how you interact with new users. Be careful what you say and how you say it. Perhaps the problem is more of a language issue, and that will take a lot of careful practice to correct. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:15, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you mr. Frog! I will take absolute precautions. However, I never got any information that I was banned from NPP. Is it possible for me to be ban without anyone leaving such notice on my talk page? Wikicology (talk) 18:38, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

No, you would have to have received a notification from an administrator. Perhaps it would be a good idea to archive your talk page rather than simply delete its contents. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:41, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I will subscribe to your suggestions. Thanks for your time Wikicology (talk) 18:53, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

FreeRangeFrog I don't mean to bother you but I don't have an idea of how I can achieve my talke page. I need your help on that. Wikicology (talk) 19:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I do it manually, just create the new archive and cut and paste. But you can use bots as well. See Help:Archiving a talk page. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 20:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hi. Our previous conversations is missing so i'm writing here. My latest article is corrected. How can I show you this inscription? Create new page in wiki or send you in another way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wio-Master (talk • contribs) 08:38, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Please use Articles for creation. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:44, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

OK, done. Do you need url to check my draf? Or you have access to my account?:)

Thank you for all your advice! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wio-Master (talk • contribs) 21:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

No, there's no need for me to check anything, Wikipedia doesn't have a gatekeeper or formal review board. I recommended AFC because that's probably the best approach after you've had an article deleted, since you can work on it unmolested until it's ready and then submit it for review. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 21:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thank so much for help. I think that was big mistake but I created draft which I published (status: Review waiting) and I created new page with the same content. Can you help me with this? Who can accept my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wio-Master (talk • contribs) 07:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

You should not be creating the article, since we agreed you have a conflict of interest here, but there's nothing I can do once the article is live, so it all depends on whether or not someone nominates it for deletion at this point. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 23:28, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Page deletion for Globo_PLC

Hello FreeRangeFrog,I have posted pages about companies to Wiki before in this format and have never had problems with verifying significance. I also see other companies listed on wikipedia with the same level of information supporting significance. Could you explain why the page was deleted when we included verifiable sources and have not made any false statements? Are there any additional indications that need to be included?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globo_PLC — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeanutButterWolf (talk • contribs) 16:26, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

See WP:CSD#A7, WP:CORP and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 03:30, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Draft:DeskAlerts

Hi,
I have worked on the language of the Draft:DeskAlerts page. I was hoping that you would be able to look at it and give me some feedback. I really worked on the wording to make it sound neutral. I also included some additional facts and deleted a weak citation.

Thanks in advance for your help with this. I really appreciate it.
Talk soon,
--WikiGuru100 (talk) 17:58, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Again, no claim to notability whatsoever in your article. If a company does not meet that then it's unlikely an article about them will be allowed to remain. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 22:48, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Another user making BLP's unsourced

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jillian_Hall Just about to put a notice on there page now. Wgolf (talk) 17:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Deleted one of those as a clear A7. If they keep doing it and I'm not around, warn them and post a note to WP:ANI. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 22:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Please undelete the foodology article

I had just begun to work on the article with the new editor when I found that the page had been deleted. Is there anyway you can restore the page and give us at least a couple of hours to get it into shape? She posted a message on the Teahouse questions page.

  Bfpage |leave a message  23:20, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Could you just move it into a sandbox of mine? I've helped rescue a couple of articles before and I really don't want to lose this new editor as a contributor.

  Bfpage |leave a message  23:23, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

@Bfpage: Restored to User:Bfpage/Foodology. Please insist on them going through WP:CHU, or they're going to be blocked. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 23:34, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for doing this. I have communicated with the editor and told her the first thing that she needs to do is change her username. If she doesn't do that, then her article will stay deleted and I will delete it from my sandbox. Thank you so much for doing this. I hope we can save it.

  Bfpage |leave a message  23:36, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

RE Sabrina A. Parisi

Hi, just wondering why this article name on this page is not yet red-linked (since October 8 deletion). Does it matter? Yours, Quis separabit? 18:54, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

@Rms125a: The AFD page was still cached. Load it again, I purged the server cache. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:11, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Saiman Miah

Dear Frog, I invite you to express your opinion about the article for deletion. --Rossi101 (talk) 19:03, 20 October 2014 (UTC)Rossi101

Deleted page: Kazumi Evans

About Kazumi Evans, she is a Canadian voice-actress and a singer. But why did you deleted it with any reason? --Allen ^{(talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me)} 01:35, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

McKinsey & Company

Hi FreeRangeFrog. I was hoping you might have a few minutes to provide a fourth opinion of sorts regarding a potential BLP-type issue.

A few editors have, after being notified by me, agreed to remove the following sentence from the McKinsey & Company page, where I have a COI:

For example, according to an article citing public tax records, a senior partner in McKinsey's Norway office earned 67 million NOK in 2011, or between $11 and $12 million USD.(source)

Each time the sentence and/or some related material is removed, it has been restored by user:My2011[5][6][7] in a kind of slow-rolling, mild edit-war over the last year and a half.

My2011 believes I am trying to censor or hide criticisms regarding McKinsey's high salaries. I don't feel this particular employee's salary is really that significant such that it over-rides privacy concerns and note that extensive profile stories I feel are more reliable say most directors earn $1-$3 million.[8][9]

CorporateM (Talk) 19:12, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey FreeRangeFrog. Do you have an interesting in working on this page some more in general? I would like to take it the GA route, but it still needs quite a bit of work, including in many controversial areas where I should not edit directly on account of COI rules. CorporateM (Talk) 04:06, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@CorporateM: Remember what I did at Mansoor Ijaz? If you're game to create a full draft to replace the existing article, I'll be happy to review it and do the same thing. We can even do an informal call for comments in the talk page and so on. But I'm just afraid I won't be very responsive for piecemeal edit requests. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 16:47, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Yah I know what you mean. I can put it together in an annotated draft with bold red text for additions and strikeouts for trims, then provide a copy/pasteable coded version once approved. However many of the remaining items are things that were contested when I made the current content. For example, an editor opposed my suggestion of breaking up the Knowledge Management section, which relied heavily on primary sources and content not related to knowledge management. My2011 has repeatedly restored the sentence starting with "However, these numbers have likely increased substantially" (it use to say "apparently" rather than "likely") that also sounds like Original Research to me. Now that the controversies are merged with regular sections, it has become apparent how overly-weighted they are and I'd like to trim a few of them, and there is always much resistance to a COI editor doing so. CorporateM (Talk) 18:41, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Annotated draft

How's this? CorporateM (Talk) 22:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@CorporateM: Looking good so far, give me a coupla days to get through it and diff with the current one. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:51, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Deleted page

A page I am was working on about a notable upcoming South African artist was deleted (Evans Musa Ndobe). Can you please reverse that action and restore the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dumindobe (talk • contribs) 06:12, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

I left information on your talk page on how to create a draft. The article you mention has been deleted twice already, because it does not make a minimal assertion of importance. Wikipedia is not a directory - subjects must meet the notability guidelines for inclusion. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 06:19, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

User:Asma_Chandani

Objection to your deletion of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Asma_Chandani. Please reinistate text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acesq24 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Please reinstate text from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Asma_Chandani. I did not have a local copy of the text and object to the basis of your deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acesq24 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

First thing first - you created an article using an account, which is not allowed. Second, I see at least three accounts and two anonymous users have edited the content and done nothing else. I assume you and them, whomever they are, have a conflict of interest. So you all need to follow the instructions here. You need to disclose your relationship to the subject, and you need to submit a draft for review, not create the article directly. Finally, you need to evaluate whether or not the subject meets the notability guidelines to avoid wasting everyone's time. Once that's done we can talk about restoring the content into a draft. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 23:00, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hello, I am writing you concerning a page you recently deleted, Terragon Group. I have checked through the guidelines that was claimed was violated (A7) and have matched this with the article that was submitted. The article was thoroughly reviewed by a team of editors here and we believed that all guidelines were strictly followed. How can we resolve this and restore this page, making the necessary edits where required? Aazubuike (talk) 15:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Given your comment, there's obviously one guideline that was not strictly followed: The conflict of interest one, which is clear about the need to submit a draft for review. The deletion itself was appropriate - your article made no claim of importance whatsoever. It only described the company. Wikipedia is not a directory, and subjects must meet the notability guidelines for inclusion (beyond the basic claim to importance, which would have prevented the speedy deletion in the first place). §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I still object to the deletion and will like this re-instated. I already stated in the first sentence the claim of importance which was 'Africa's leading digital marketing company' as well as sources to prove the claim. If this is insufficient information, i will like an opportunity to edit it and send it to Wiki editors to review beforehand. Thank you so much. Aazubuike (talk) 14:25, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

None of your sources seemed to back up your Africa's leading digital marketing company claim, that has to come from someone else, not your PR material. Nevertheless, maybe you can get it working. The article is at Draft:Terragon Group. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 00:30, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. The sources were independent sources. However, i have taken note of your comments and will edit appropriately, and submit for review. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aazubuike (talk • contribs) 09:27, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you so much for reverting my recent edit here. Am glad you did. It serves as a reminder for me. It escaped my mind over time. I hoped I never “bite”? If there is anything you think I should no, don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page. Your corrective advice is my strength. Thanks. Wikicology (talk) 17:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Changer d'Altitude

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

I noticed that earlier today you marked the page "Changer d'Altitude" for speedy deletion. I was hoping that we could resolve this.

The information that was provided to the page is all that is present in the online domain at the moment: a blog from the author and the page from the publisher. It would be great to develop the page to be more content rich, with alternative viewpoints and reviews, but at present there are none in the public domain and therefore the page can only represent the facts currently stated about the book.

I had found similar content while looking at other book articles, if only less content rich due to lack of blurb, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_We_Decide, but this could be removed if you think it makes a more neutral tone to the article.

It would be great to get your guidance on this article, rather than simply deleting it.

Many thanks, Phil Solimp (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it was written in a completely inappropriate and unencyclopedic way. We don't normally speedy delete articles about books for any other reason. With that said, you're basically arguing against the inclusion of the article (assuming it was re-written) because books must meet certain notability guidelines, which must be proven with multiple references to secondary sources that evidence the work's notability. If a book is not notable by that measure, then it does not belong in Wikipedia. And while we don't consider X when talking about Y, I will note the difference between your article and the one you mention is that it contains those multiple secondary references that can be used to assert said notability. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 19:54, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Just wanted to ask why my page was deleted?

Hello, so sorry, just wanted to ask why my page for Ahead Learning Systems was deleted for unambiguous advertising when I wrote it in much the same way as the following pages?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InstaEDU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TutorVista

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutor.com

Just wanted to ask why these pages weren't speedily deleted as well. I have a mortal fear of frogs, but, I'm hoping you will respond without any photos ^_^

Thank you so much for your time and attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YuXin Writer (talk • contribs) 00:25, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Every claim to notability in your article was sourced to the company's website, aside from the fact that it was written like a brochure. I'd suggest you start over, assuming the company meets WP:CORP. I will not restore the material, but I can email it to you if you wish. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 00:34, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment on using secondary RSs at "List of scientists opposing maintream assessment of global warming"

In the most recent AFD of a particular article, you made a comment that referenced "original research" or "WP:OR". I am sending this same message to every non-IP editor who metioned either character string in that AFD. Please consider participating in a poll discussion about adding secondary RSs to the listing criteria at that talk page. Thanks for your attention. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:33, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

That seems pointless to me. Why would I help improve the article, if in my opinion it shouldn't even exist. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 00:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

User:Prof kigoo

The editor is still adding advertisement and spam to their talk page. I just thought I'd let you know to stop them. Thank you Callmemirela (talk) 01:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

@Callmemirela: Already blocked for blatant spamming. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 01:25, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

User:FreeRangeFrog I am very well aware of that, but they updated their talk page after being blocked in the same pattern. here. That is what I meant. Callmemirela (talk) 01:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Removed talk page access now, and the spam. Thanks for the heads up! §FreeRangeFrog^croak 01:30, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of page - AproGift

@FRF, I don't understand why has the article - AproGift been deleted. I am a freelance blogger and reporter who covers media and technology companies. Please restore the article as it is written in a generic manner and is not promotional directly in the form of sales or marketing. The way I see it, the article qualifies the criterion - Note: An article about a company or a product which describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.203.76.67 (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what page you're referring to, because you didn't link to it, I can't find it in the logs or via search, and you're not logged in. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 15:33, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Reason behind deletion of Experion Developers Page

Thank you for the attention to the page. I wrote a response to the mod who marked the page for deletion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ubiquity#Speedy_Deletion_of_Experion_Developers_Page I have not received a response. Kindly let me know what was missing in the page that led to its deletion and how I can improve upon it to make the page appropriate Wikipedia content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bootpalish (talk • contribs) 14:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Ubiquity left a helpful and detailed message in your talk page which explains the deletion. I would have told you the same thing. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 16:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

The Human Element

Hi!

I am the creator of the now deleted page for The Human Element. I am very confused as to why my entry was deleted. I am a new wiki editor and am doing my best to learn this process. Can you please clarify why my entry was not only rejected but deleted?

The page I am (was) creating had over twenty legitimate, published sources.

The research/behavioral model/method being depicted in the page is of historical significance to the fields psychology, behavioral development, and organization development.

There are multiple books published on or around this work spanning over sixty years.

The son of the man who developed this research (originally for the Navy) advised me in the creation of the page and is the caretaker of the intellectual property of the research, so really there won't be a more accurate version of this page than the one we collaborate on.

Aside from any feedback/clarification you are able to offer I would also really appreciate my draft being restored or emailed to me.

Thank you for your time, I appreciate it! Theschutzcompany (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2014 (UTC) Mariah

Please request a change to your username, or you will be blocked. The relevant policy can be found here. As to the article, it was written in an inappropriate way - the way a brochure or a fansite might be written. See WP:CSD#G11 for more information. Such material is routinely deleted. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi again, I am in the process of requesting a new username per your suggestion, so please don't block me. I would really appreciate my draft being restored or emailed to me, and would consider it very courteous as I am a new user. As far as the style I'll be honest this wasn't very helpful. Most of the article was sourced directly from academic articles on the subject. If I am to start over I would really appreciate feedback that is more specific. I am feeling a bit "bitten" as they say. Again, thank you for your time. Theschutzcompany (talk) 17:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel bitten. I don't tend to do that to users, which is why I requested that you change your username instead of flat out blocking you, as we normally do. You understand we can't have "Theschutzcompany" writing about a subject invented by Will Schutz of the The Schutz Company. What sources you used are irrelevant, because the article was deleted as an advertisement, not because it was unsourced. Let me quote from the draft:

The Human Element was created by Will Schutz, Ph.D., a psychologist and creator of FIRO® Theory and FIRO instruments. The Human Element uses experiential learning, including small group discussions, structured feedback, imagery, and physical activities, combined with an integrated set of FIRO-based psychometric assessments to address interpersonal issues in organizations. The experiential basis of the methodology provides the means for individuals and teams to change their behavioral dynamics and ways of working together. It is usually delivered as a course followed by interventions using the modules and tools in consulting and coaching.

I note the liberal use of the registered trademark symbol (usually a red flag in these cases), and the generally meaningless buzzword-laden prose that really explains nothing but looks good. Here's more:

Schutz believed that truth or openness is essential for high performance and solving problems in organizations. In The Human Element, Truth is used interchangeably with Openness and has two parts

More:

Schutz presented the concept of Choice (which he also called self-determination, or autonomy) as a “pragmatic assumption,” which reorients one’s search for solutions to problems. The assumption of Choice involves assuming that one has complete control over one’s life, for the purpose of raising awareness. By looking for ways in which one created his or her own situation, one becomes more aware of his or her own choices, both conscious and unconscious. Schutz emphasizes that this is not a statement of presumed fact, but intended to be a means for practical problem solving. “If I preclude nothing, then I put my energy into figuring out how to succeed… If I start out by assuming some things are unchangeable, then I am imposing limitations before I even try…Choice is a pragmatic operating principle that allows me to devote all my energy to doing what I want to do, rather than wasting it on finding reasons for why I’m not doing what I want to do.”

And all this is just a small part of the overall draft. The amount of material dedicated to the awesomeness of Will Schutz was also highly problematic. His bio thankfully seems to be fairly neutral though.

If you can't see why all this is appropriate maybe for your website or a brochure about the subject but wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia then we really can't help the fact that you feel bitten. While the concept might meet the notability guidelines for inclusion, Wikipedia is not the place to promote it, which your draft was essentially doing (even if that was not your intention). Quite honestly, all this could have been condensed into to a single paragraph in the author's bio. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:55, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi again! Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, your feedback was very helpful and really clarified a lot for me. The account was originally set up by the company but I have taken it over now because I use this behavioral model in my work and felt it would make a good wiki contribution. My username has been changed to reflect the account as my own and not The Schutz company's. My intention was not at all to sell anything but rather to make a well written and thorough entry. It seems I overshot.

I would very much appreciate the opportunity to take your feedback and re-work the entry. It would be a huge help if you could email or restore the draft as my last revisions were not backed up and the coding bits still take me quite a while. I think with this new feedback I will be able to edit the page significantly and meet wikipedia's standards. As many tutorials as I have taken on this process it there are obviously nuances that must be learned through experience.

Again thank you for your time. If you need me email address to send me the draft I am happy to provide it. Thank you! Mariah OrgDevNerd (talk) 00:38, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@OrgDevNerd: Thank you for changing your username. I've emailed you the contents of the deleted draft. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 03:45, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

editing

please allow my editing on vimi...i am trying to tell about a great heroine of bollywood to the world...please allow me to edit... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.230.22.218 (talk) 06:14, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

I did not realize there was a non-free exception for "primary means of visual identification of the subject" as was done here for photographs of the article-subject. Is that kosher? CorporateM (Talk) 17:01, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

@CorporateM: For deceased persons, yes. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:47, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

awww... CorporateM (Talk) 20:03, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Closure

Hey FreeRangeFrog! Would you mind closing Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Mian Amir ghani, since you deleted the page. Thanks, --///EuroCarGT 00:11, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

@EuroCarGT: Closed, thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 01:01, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

regarding deletion of infopercept page

hello,

i just wanted to know, why my article related to infopercept has been delete, it is an article which gives information about my company, what it does? that is it, can you please clarify so i can workout the way you suggested and i can publish my article.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.23.141.179 (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

See WP:PSCOI. That's not why it was deleted, but it's what you should be doing. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 04:52, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

JDgeek1729/Jjjjjjdddddd problematic AfC moves

Hi Frog. I too have noticed some very problematic AfC acceptances by this editor. They probably all need to be checked [10]. The situation is not helped by a possibly incomplete name change. See my message at User talk:MBisanz#Confusing name change. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 19:26, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

@Voceditenore: Will look at this more tomorrow or Tuesday, for now I'm assuming good faith but I agree there is some troubling stuff back there that needs attention. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 22:37, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Talkback - Jersey92

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Princesse tam.tam

Dear FreeRangeFrog,

My name is Pauline. I am a french student in Finland. You have deleted my article about Princesse tam.tam. I am sorry to know it. I wrote this article for a study exercise which was to contribute in Wikipedia. Unfortunately, the article has been detected as advertising. To show my work, please, could you send me a copy of the article?

Thank you in advance,

Regards,

Pauline — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulinePalm (talk • contribs) 07:45, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

You will have to enable email on your Wikipedia account. You can do so at Special:Preferences. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:17, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Mostafa.a.Noori

Hi I was wondering why my user page was deleted? It is not a resume or for social networking. It provides a limited amount of biographical information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.111.27 (talk) 08:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Obihai Technology

I've opened an WP:AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obihai Technology. K7L (talk) 16:33, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

GA Nomination - Mansoor Ijaz article

@FreeRangeFrog: Good evening, Sir. I thought I'd bring to your attention that Montanabw has done a superb review of article Timothy M. Carney, in which I have worked with the editor to improve and correct an article that I had substantially re-written. I thought perhaps this would be a good reviewer for the Mansoor Ijaz article that you have nominated for Good Article status. Just a thought, in case you wanted to reach out as it has been some time since the GA Nomination was made. Hope all else is well in your neighborhood. Best, --Mansoor Ijaz (talk) 01:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Mansoor Ijaz: I'll reach out to them once I see the work on Carney is done. Thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 15:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Can't get notifications

Several times I have asked that I be notified of changes to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Eve. I have a conflict of interest so I may not make changes, but I can discuss and I can request changes. I wonder if it has to do with an f*** up from a while back when I did not understand the COI and was disabled for a while. HELP! Thank you. Oh, and thanks for keeping an eye on this page. Greenwayfriend (talk) 04:52, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Help:Watching pages#Email notification and Help:Email notification should be available to any registered user who has an e-mail address verified in their profile, has enabled the feature in their special:preferences and has the page on their special:watchlist. Any chance your e-mail provider is inadvertently rejecting the messages as spam? K7L (talk) 14:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Greenwayfriend: What K7L said... I remember you asked me about this before, and there's nothing related to COI or anything like that which could be causing the problem. Check your preferences, and your spam folder. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 15:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

FRF, thank you. My "Junk e-mail" and "Spam" folders are empty. On my preference page I have provided my email address and both "Enable email from other users" and "Email me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" are checked. My watchlist shows both "Amazon Eve (talk | History)" and "Amazon eve (talk)" in that order. I just deleted the second one since I don't think the article with a lowercase /e/ exists. My recollection is that last time you changed something and then I got one (or maybe two) notifications and then they stopped. I wonder if I should try changing my email address. Greenwayfriend (talk) 21:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Los Estómagos

I must say I thought carefully about that one. Why would a band call themselves "The Stomachs"? Peridon (talk) 17:29, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Peridon: Pfft, that's nothing. There was one called Un Pingüino en mi Ascensor, which translates roughly to "There's a penguin in my elevator" §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:06, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Having been in groups called 'Me, him and her', and 'Missing Link', not to mention 'The Wandering Willies', I could go with the penguin... Not stomachs. Peridon (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Request for reconsideration of deleted page LeadFerret

Hello FreeRangeFrog,

You deleted a page I created for LeadFerret. I'm requested that I be given explanation as to why the page was removed. All I'm trying accomplish here is publish a nuetral article about LeadFerret. The page was not intended to sound at all promotional or advertising like. Would you be able to put the page back up so I can continue to work on it. Thanks!

LeadFerret 22:25, 5 November 2014 (UTC)