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Gollum's betrayal

In the following: In The Lord of the Rings, Gollum reappears searching for the Ring and betrays the Fellowship to a band of Orcs. (This is purely conjectural: Gollum had been following the Fellowship down the River Anduin, but there is no textual indication that the Orc attack near the Falls of Rauros was a result of any betrayal on his part; both Sauron and Saruman had forces on both sides of the river, and Gollum was unlikely to deliver the Ring to forces who would make sure he could never recover it)

I deleted the note. It should be here, not in the article. -- Zoe

I'm going to delete the whole thing -- pure speculation. It doesn't say that Gollum flew in on a B52 either, so maybe we should mention that possibility! ;-) -- Tarquin 09:16 Mar 30, 2003 (UTC)

Gollum in the first edition of the Hobbit

There should be a few sentences or even a paragraph about how he appeared in the first edition of the hobbit before Tolkien revised Riddles in the Dark.

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"The Lord of the Rings brought about changes to the context of the original story, and led to substantial changes to the character of Gollum. In the first edition of The Hobbit, Gollum bets his ring on the riddle game and if Bilbo wins, the ring will be presented as a present. After losing, Gollum seeks for the ring, but cannot find it. He begs for Bilbo's pardon and shows him the way out. Tolkien made Gollum more aggressive in the second edition to reflect on the concept of the ring's corrupting abilities. In The Lord of the Rings, the original version of the riddle game is explained as a "lie" made up by Bilbo under the harmful influence of the Ring, whereas the revised version contains the "true" account." - from Lord of the Rings wikipedia 25willp (talk) 10:41, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]