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New photographs from the Museum of the History of Polish Jews

Hi Ryszard, we have just received from the Museum 19 photographs of the main exibition (to be open today at 2pm) and the builidng to enrich Wikipedia. I have added some to our Polish Wikipedia article, do you thing you can give us a hand regarding the English one and also add some? I currently travelling and have limilited access to Internet. Many thanks! Boston9 (talk) 11:10, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be happy to help however I can. Very impressive, I wish I could be there. Poeticbent talk 12:02, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Boston9 (talk) 13:58, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I have reported your gross personal attack

I have reported your gross personal attack [1]--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 23:08, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability of two individuals

I've prodded several other creations by Racine262 (talk · contribs) but what do you think of Hermine Boettcher-Brueckner and Erna Beilhardt? Those, at least, were captured and faced a trial, so the references are a bit better. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:52, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Piotrus. These two WP:BIOs are fine. At least some vital statistics are mentioned including birthdate and place of origin. Useful for our Stutthof trial article, like you said. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 14:19, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Ittner

This SS man now has an article. Perhaps you'd like to add an infobox for him. This non-free picture: [2] is probably the best you're going to find of him. I'm too lazy to edit it. As I've said I'm trying to keep away from this topic. - Hoops gza (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please answer? - Hoops gza (talk) 01:17, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not being so prompt this time Hoops gza. I got tided up in some nationalist shit, but I read the article. The photo seems copyrighted so it would have to be fair use I'm afraid. Please be patient. I will get to it eventually, Poeticbent talk 04:22, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being pushy. Thanks for the tireless contributions. The guy who made that article, User:Keresaspa, is one of the most tireless contributors of Nazi-related material on here. On the German Wikipedia, the most tireless contributor seems to be Schreiben. Too bad we don't have more German speakers on here. Perhaps in time many of the books will be translated to English. - Hoops gza (talk) 19:46, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad I could help. Pleasure working with you Hoops gza, Poeticbent talk 19:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 24

Your recent editing history at Czesław Mączyński‎ shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.Faustian (talk) 06:20, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've now violated the reversion rule; please restore the version; you will be reported.Faustian (talk) 06:24, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

For tendentious edit-warring on Czesław Mączyński‎, I have blocked you for 3 days. The block is longer than a normal 3RR block because it's in the area of conflict in which you have had a history of problematic conduct, and it will be logged as an enforcement action under WP:ARBEE. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:32, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Commenting

My most recent expansion of this article (+10,915)‎ included a selection of academic sources going well beyond Wikipedia:Cherrypicking by the above user active in Wikipedia articles in the Category:Poland–Ukraine relations. I try to stay away from it mainly as a result of the bad blood. The Wikipedia biography of Czesław Mączyński‎ however, is also the subject of a recent book with excerpts available online which drew my attention to the fact that he's been vilified for his Defense of Lwów in the Soviet-dominated Europe.

Książki, Pułkownik Czesław Mączyński 1881–1935. Obrońca Lwowa i polityk Drugiej Rzeczpospolitej (The Defender of Lwow and Politician of the Second Republic) By Jacek Miliński (University of Łódź), Publisher: Trio, Warsaw 2004, ISBN 83-88542-01-8.

My new academic sources shedding a better light on the subject of this article included:

Danuta Trylska-Siekańska, Elżbieta Mokrzyska, Pułkownik Czesław Mączyński 1881–1935. Nowe Ksiązki. Cracovia Leopolis - historia i kultura Lwowa oraz Małopolski Wschodniej.
Agnieszka Biedrzycka. Kalendarium Lwowa 1918–1939 (PDF file, direct download 4.04 MB). Towarzystwo Autorów i Wydawców Prac Naukowych Universitas. pp. 19–26. ISBN 97883-242-1542-3. Retrieved 22 November 2014. {{cite book}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Also added, were the new translations of original documents:

Lwow.home.pl, Czesław Mączyński, Boje Lwowskie. Część I. Oswobodzenie Lwowa (Battles for Lwów. Part 1. Liberation) 1-24 listopada 1918 roku. Warszawa: Nakładem Spółki Wyd. Rzeczpospolita, 1921.

I feel, I was being goaded into this conflict by personal attacks i.e. accusations of adding "falsehoods", or my alleged connection to master "Loosmark", made mistakenly in September 2011 which I thought was already put to rest... Anyhow, clinging to one book by Carole Fink was not the way to go. The commentator was unnecessarily hostile. That in fact, was the reason why the book was being flogged by Faustian so hard. The Ukrainian vilification of Polish history is not a recent phenomenon I'm afraid. The citation linked by the user was 67 pages earlier in that book, on page 112, not on page 179, which was a proof that the user did not check what he fought for.

Carole Fink does not have a monopoly on knowledge about the Polish history. The quote about Czesław Mączyński‎ being elected to parliament as "a member of the right-wing Christian Front" was from her footnote, credited to work of German historian Golczewski, titled "Polnisch-Jüdische Beziehungen". Wikipedia has an article about that Polish legislative election, 1922 to the Sejm and so, we can learn more. There was no "Christian Front" at all, but there was a Christian Union of National Unity (Chrześcijański Związek Jedności Narodowej), broadly represented across the whole country with maximum votes in that election. I tagged the right-wing allegation as "dubious". Please check how many times the maintenance tag was removed in that edit-war by Faustian. We have a policy against that. It's called disruptive editing. I'm stunned how quickly he's found his way back to the original blocking admin; but please, look at both sides of this argument Fut.Perf. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 11:34, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I listed page 112 as the source for Carole Fink; if the link to googlebook doesn't go there for you, this is unfortunate. I use sources avaialble to me, which tend to be English language. Carol Fink's book is publushed by Cambridge University. Your own additions were rather biased. Your changes: [3]. at the bottom, you quoted the pamphlet Maczynski distributed, and described it in your words on the article page as "The Appeal was in no-way antisemitic, but it spoke of the reported to him (not properly investigated) individual cases of alleged Jewish attacks (which were later disproved as false in official state investigation)". The appeal itself stated: "There were instances reported of shooting from deep concealment, throwing pots of boiling water but also axes at the army patrols, etc. ...Nevertheless, there's a serious responsibility on the part of the entire Jewish community to stop these elements among their own coreligionists who act in a way that suggests a complete lack of care for the impending catastrophe which could affect all Jewish citizens." So Maczynski's pamphlet has false claims of Jews throwing axes and boiling water on Poles, holds the Jewish community collectively responsible for these false acts, and threatens the Jewish community with "catastrophe" for these false acts. And Poeticbent describes this as " in no-way antisemitic" while, multiple times, deleting Carole Fink's correct summary of that pamphlet. This is tendntious editing by Poeticbent and it is unfortunate to see that after his block he persists in this on his talk page.Faustian (talk) 14:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I correctly stated that you added a falsehood after your multiple reversions and after you had accused me of pushing a POV.

As for your false personal attack implying that I am part of a group that engages in "vilification of Polish history", I recently rewrote the following article, making massive additions: Poles in Ukraine. Is that vilification?Faustian (talk) 14:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]