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Discrepancies about John Reynolds

Jackey Neyman, who played Debbie, has stated on her own blog some information about John Reynolds that contradict what is in this article, dismissing a lot of what has been stated as myth. I think it's worth a look since it's from someone who was actually a part of the production, albeit, as a small child. http://debbiesmanos.blogspot.com/2012/10/john-reynoldstorgo-story-i.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.157.57 (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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"Restoring the worst movie ever made." CNN. January 5, 2012.

WhisperToMe (talk) 16:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dual-system audio and clapperboard

There are a couple of inconsistencies/impossibilities in the Production section:

"The Bell & Howell camera was incapable of double-system recording, and thus all sound effects and dialogue were dubbed later in post-production"

This can't possibly be correct. The whole point of dual-system audio is that audio is recorded independently of the camera, so there is no such thing as a camera "incapable of double-system recording". It's much more likely that sound wasn't recorded on location because it would have necessitated 1-2 more crew members, more equipment, and maintaining silence on set. Dubbing everything wasn't entirely uncommon in B-movies back then and up through the Seventies, even Robert Rodríguez' "El Mariachi" is completely looped.

And:

One of the more visible examples of this is a brief moment at the beginning of the film in which the clapperboard (which was useless to the Manos shoot in the first place - such a device is used to help sync sound captured on location. Manos' sound and dialogue was not recorded during filming but dubbed in later) is visible after a cut to the "make-out couple".

The clapperboard is not useless just because there's no sync sound being recorded. In fact, most clapperboards have labels that are circled to indicate "sync" for sync sound, or "MOS" for no sync sound. When a clapperboard is used with sync sound, it's brought into frame with the clapper open, clapped, and removed from frame with the clapper closed, while when no sound is being recorded, the clapperboard is brought into frame and removed all while keeping the clapper closed. This is done since the clapperboard serves to identify the scene and take.

I didn't want to go ahead and just change these things, since they're factual errors I wanted to discuss them here first, but it's quite obvious that these two sentences are not correct. JZ (talk) 23:20, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reasonable, and since the "useless" observation isn't sourced, I've gone ahead and cut this. --McGeddon (talk) 09:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sequel

At tonight's Rifftrax presentation of Manos, they mentioned a sequel (and a trailer for it was shown at the end of the presentation). [[1]] Should this get a mention? Allen Huffman (talk) 03:20, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sequel (The Search for Valley Lodge) is mentioned here: [2] so I guess there is at least one RS for it. However, it also says that it is as yet unreleased, so it might be better to hold our horses until it actually materializes. I'm not familiar enough with the notability guidelines to say definitively.--Sus scrofa (talk) 08:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We can always say - as long as its backed up - that a low budget sequel is in production, in this article without worrying about notability. It doesn't commit that it would be released or the like. It would be far too early for a separate article for the sequel (though redirecting "Manos 2" to here would make sense). --MASEM (t) 13:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]