Talk:Massage parlor
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Happy Ending
"it's generally understood that "massage parlors" may offer sexual massages. This article is not the place for content about the place of business for massage providers who do not provide sexual massages".
A massage parlor can be both sexual and non-sexual, legal and illegal. The article already covers the sexual aspects so i dont see why nonsexual aspects should be deleted. Even when it is sexual, it is usually in teh form of a happy ending rather than full on sex. Hence as a compromise i will add that aspect to the lead. Pass a Method talk 21:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- "it is usually in teh form of a happy ending rather than full on sex." Got a source for that kind of statement? Look, I was very surprised to see someone recently try & remove what has been some pretty obvious attempts to "sanitize" (for lack of better term) this article by removing large portions of the sexual side of things when it comes to massage parlors, which are pretty obviously sexual services-only establishments as opposed to an actual day spa, but this article here (as is) is almost worthless in describing what actually goes on in these kind of establishments. It's a pretty sad display of POV-pushing IMHO. Edit-warring over it isn't a solution. Guy1890 (talk) 02:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Deleting ALL of the sexual content and replacing it with a sentence about happy endings is not a compromise. Again, technically a massage parlor could be sexual or non-sexual, just as a pharmacist is technically a "drug dealer". In actual usage, no pharmacist is going to call themselves a drug dealer , and a business offering non-sexual, legal massages is not going to call themselves a "massage parlour" due to strong sexual conotations for that term. Pass a Method added this reference to the article: ([1]). The only place the term "massage parlour" appears in that book is in the context of the segment of the sex industry regulated by New Zealand's Massage Parlours Act 1978.
I'm not convinced that people often consider the term "massage parlour" to apply businesses offering non-sexual massages. If there is indeed frequent confusion as to whether or not massage parlours offer sexual services, then massage parlour should serve as a disambiguation page, pointing to an article on the sexual establishments and a separate article on non-sexual establishments. Trying to treat both businesses in the same article is inappropriate, as is converting this article from one entirely about the sexual establishments into one covering the non-sexual establishments.
I'm reverting back to the version discussing sexual establishments. Making this article into a dab instead might be appropriate. I'm going to bring it up at Talk:Massage to see if anybody there actually thinks massage parlours are non-sexual. Plantdrew (talk) 02:36, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- This time i only made additions. And i'm not sure why you're opposed to covering both topics on the same article. As an analogy, there are thriller movies where almost half the scenes deal with nudity/sex. That doesn't mean we should recatogorize the thriller movie as a porno-only should we? Plus we already have the article erotic massage Pass a Method talk 17:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Reconsidering the existence or format of this article makes sense to me (such as a redirect to Erotic Massage), but putting a WP:DAB doesn't fit. There is no place for non-sexual massage in this article. At least in the US - I should clarify that because perhaps in the UK the term is used differently? --Karinpower (talk) 02:33, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure what 'happy ending' exactly means here. A euphemism I don't know. I think we need to be clear about things here. As for what a massage parlour is. It provides a range of sexual services/acts. Could go into a list, won't at the moment. In short a maggage parlour provides 'full on' sex. In many cases what you get at the begging could barely be called a massage. This is from an English/GB/UK perspective. Dannman (talk) 13:43, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- A "happy ending" is an orgasm which is given as part of an erotic massage. Guy1890 (talk) 02:48, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Typically performed "manually." This may be a U.S. slang. --Karinpower (talk) 07:16, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- I think I get it (errrm, I mean understand it!). That would be Manual Relief in England.Dannman (talk) 15:38, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Typically performed "manually." This may be a U.S. slang. --Karinpower (talk) 07:16, 22 November 2014 (UTC)