Talk:IMVU

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Content theft and other controverseies

If anyone is a content creator here, you would have known about how serious content theft is on IMVU, but I am not a wiki wiz so what reference do I need to create a section to explain the prominence of product theft and all other IMVU controverseies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.91.32.58 (talk) 23:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please Help Make this Article More Encyclopedic

I have already made several significant modifications to the page in order to make it more neutral and encyclopedic. I urge others to help in fixing this article as well. Onixz100 (talk) 07:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

^ http://www.imvu.com/store/store_us.php

7. ^ Export Time
9.^ What are Developer Tokens

These references should not be included, as they were published by the company in question, and do not meet Wikipedia guidelines for suitable reference. Aetern142 (talk) 00:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ie, you cannot reference yourself. Aetern142 (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When Was the Exact Date IMVU was released?

When was IMVU first released? A quick search only reveals "April 2004." It seems odd to release a product on April Fools' Day. Lavenderbunny 06:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How does the AP info keep getting removed? it Is VALID and True information regarding the accesspass controversy, writting with very little bias regarding the facts of the matter. as it seems to dissappear farly quickly, perhaps they have people to keep thie eyes on it... lets see how long this stays here...

207.65.209.61 06:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMVU contunually tries to push their "we didn't know" agenda

in this wiki site, and it's getting sickening. There WAS NEVER a UFI catagory when IMVU first opened. Their original statement was that that it was UP TO THE USERS OF IMVU TO DECIDED WHAT CONTENT THEY WANTED. It's in their own ARCHIVES They SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO FALSIFY STATEMENTS ON THIS WIKI SITE! this talk is dead

You might be correct in your statements, but many users would not know this for themselves without references to verify it. If you would like to add it to the article or change what is in it, feel free to, as long as you provide accurate references. I cannot watch/edit this section for update as fast as IMVU updates it for whatever reason, so I have nominated it for protection so that new accounts cannot edit it. It appears that multiple anon ip accounts are editing this content to reflect a biased view, and I don't seem to have much help here, so I will see what I can get done. My goal is to ensure that factual information is provided to Wiki-Users without a slant on the information being provided. That being said lets see what we can get done. Also, please sign your posts with "Aetern142 (talk) 19:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)" or the "Signature and Timestamp" button provided at the top of your interface. Aetern142 (talk) 19:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IMVU Catalog

I tagged this section because it contains the words "great" and "tons" where more specific words are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbluen (talk • contribs) 04:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMVU has done little to support their customers. I have complaint issues that go back months. When I started a thread in the message forum seeking help for my unanswered complaints, I was verbally attacked by IMVU employees and further permanently banned from the message boards because I complained....and I stood my ground that IMVU harasses instead of helping their customers. I have been consistently monitored and harassed by the staff of IMVU and they refuse to respond to any of my customer complaints in violation of their own business policies. In short, if you pay for something, you should be entitled to that product. IMVU puts a great deal of energy into supressing criticism of their poor customer service. I have heard many complaints from users who have contacted customer service...and have gone away abused and harrangued and not helped. If IMVU spent half as much energy in fixing their product as they spent punishing users who complained they would have a good community. If they chose to actually fix old features that had bugs instead of trying to add new features then it would work properly.

IMVU has demonstrated that their primary concern is attracting new marketing as opposed to being concerned about the quality of their product or service. They have taken an aggressive approach to customers who are vocal about their complaints.

It is important that consumers look carefully at businesses who flagrantly refuse to honor the sale of the product or service for which they have already been paid. In my opinion, to accept money, with the explicit understanding that you are receiving money for a product or service...and then to fail to provide that product or service...and furthermore to attack and harass the purchaser is fraud.

I spoke to an attorney about this. His opinion was that the dollar amounts are not nearly signifigant to justify a lawsuit. In other words, because IMVU is selling products that cost pennies, they don't have to worry if you don't get the product you paid for. They don't have to be concerned if you don't get paid for selling a product.

Remember, if you make a monetary transaction with IMVU and you lose your money, you have no legal recourse and IMVU will harass you if you complain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryconsumer (talk • contribs) 23:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Consumer Controversy

Upon checking the history, I discovered tha this site was edited half an hour after I posted the statement to this site concerning the consumer issues. If this alteration was not made by a wiki moderator, that confirms that IMVU is monitoring this site very carefully to scrub any negative criticism. Obviously, this is being done with nefarious intent. If you are an investor in IMVU and the company is taking deliberate actions to prevent investors of learning the truth about their severe management turmoil, then certainly they are deliberately trying to deceive their investors. I can only say that I find it absolutely unbelievable the lengths that they go to to prevent criticism from being made public. I and others have repeatedly commented that if they were to spend half this energy actually fixing the problems that cause customer issues to arise....then they wouldn't have the frustrated customers in the first place.

Essentially, this translates to a desire to not be held economically accountable for their business transactions. You can not offer to sell a product and then when your product fails to perform as promised shut your doors and turn the dogs on your customers. Unfortunately, because the dollar amounts involved for any one individual are so small that the courts have no interest in getting involved. So, understand clearly, if you make a monetary transaction with IMVU and they fail to honor services or products for your moneys, you will have no legal recourse. IMVU is fully aware of this and have obviously decided to take advantage of this.

If you would like to read some personal accounts of IMVU users who have been treated hostily by IMVU employees please visit this site.

http://imvu.com/groups/group/IMVU%2BConsumer%2BAction%2BNOW/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryconsumer (talk • contribs) 05:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Group deleted!! Now there's a SURPRISE!! -note the sarcasm---92.17.151.45 (talk) 17:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IMVU is monitoring this page 24/7 and is making hundreds of edits, this page looks like and advertisement for IMVU, Wikipedia staff should clean it then lock it. --88.177.158.231 (talk) 02:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to nominate this page for protection, so that imvu's own company cannot edit this page into an advertisement from anon ips. Aetern142 (talk) 00:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I have noticed this page has nothing but good news about IMVU. All of the theft, UFI, user discontent, slow help response and the long list seems to have been thrown to the gutter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.91.32.58 (talk) 00:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Number of items for sale

IMVU has world’s largest catalog of virtual goods with over 1.5 million items, produced by over 100,000 content creators

Well, note that Second Life® has, at the time of this comment, over 2.2 billion items, although a few are not for sale. The rest is easily available from literally millions of in-world shops. The author of the above paragraph is probably referring to the fact that Second Life has no in-built catalogue of virtual goods, but relies on third parties to provide that kind of service. Xtreet SL, one of the more popular ones, just has half a million items for sale — but they're not part of Linden Lab, Second Life's creators.

The number of Second Life creators is also roughly 100,000. Many also develop items for IMVU, of course.

Gwyneth Llewelyn (talk) 15:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMVU means what?

I... M... V... U...

fill in the blanks please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.102.9.150 (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's meant to be read as "I envy you." - MK (^talk/_contribs) 09:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree its a play on words like k9 meaning canine. I emm vee u -> I envy you.

i hear its supposed to stand for Instant Messaging Virtual Universe, however i believe this is wrong.

nobody really knows! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.182.113 (talk) 19:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Staff have stated IMVU is not an acronym of any kind; the proper way to pronounce it, according to staff is "am vue" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.46.43 (talk) 19:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't reference this, but I believe (from memory) it stands for Instant Message Virtual Universe. This is until they had the change in direction from Instant Messaging to Social Network. Then it didn't officially stand for anything. As they have changed their official label of the name, I cant get a reference, so I'm not gonna edit this into the article. 119.224.39.214 (talk) 06:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo!

Are you certain the part about it being developed by Yahoo! is right?--FifthCylon (talk) 20:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC) Its not correct, there are a few engineers whom work for IMVU that worked previously at Yahoo inc.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.9.164 (talk) 22:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article Rewrite

This article is in serious need of a rewrite. It cites imvu produced information for almost 80% of its content. This needs to be addressed. Much of the article is repetitive and written like an advertisement. I'll try to see what I can do to clean it up, but I might need your help. Anyone interested? Aetern142 (talk) 19:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's no mention of the spam this program pushes. There's no reference to McAfee's evaluation. If this article cannot be made fair and balanced, wikipedia should not allow spammers to use this page as an advertisement. The article is currently complete bullshit and actively harms wikipedia by reducing wikipedia's credibility. -- Cesium62 107.207.39.55 (talk) 19:39, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What I'm wondering is...

Where's the 'Criticism' section? I mean, so many people have complained about viruses, malware, adware, bad customer experiences, and so much more, if someone could find some references this site deserves a page that warns people in a 'Proceed at your own risk' fashion. Not flat-out saying it's bad, just telling the truth. Neutral. What do the people say?

I don't know if this is a very reliable source, but if you go to mywot.com and then type imvu.com, a lot of people are complaining.

Also, just going to google and typing 'IMVU virus' will reveal many many many people complaining about viruses and trojans.24.179.27.28 (talk) 21:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd imagine that much of this is stifled by IMVU staff, probably monitoring their wiki article, though it might just be apathy, or a lack of awareness of IMVU's wikipedia article. I'm wondering why IMVU even has a wikipedia article. If you wish to write a criticism article, go ahead. Remember to include controversy about IMVU's business practices and the laws they've violated. I support it, but I'm too lazy to do it right now.--99.225.28.182 (talk) 04:30, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I have no idea how to write it and all. :P But, if someone else knows the formatting, I'd be happy to find resources...as long as I don't have to go to the trojan/virus/whatever-infested site itself...I'm very virus paranoid.24.179.27.28 (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2011 (UTC) There are some adult options on the website as well Radioactiveplayful (talk) 16:27, 5 April 2013 (UTC)radioactiveplayful A Wikipedia admin should watch the page in the likely event that the page is edited again by IMVU. Possibly bar the IP address or account from editing Radioactiveplayful (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2013 (UTC)Radioactiveplayful[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted because... --87.139.189.69 (talk) 13:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose deletion

Not notable? Seems to be, at least on the surface. I think it would be better served by going through AfD. --71.110.69.206 (talk) 00:56, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Malicious/virus/trojan warning

don't use Partner Offer for earn free credit, a lot of website giving virus/fake program or send you to phishing website — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdoppelganger (talk • contribs) 14:21, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

an advertisement...?

I think this almost... an ad? --209.188.39.5 (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Current State Of This Wiki Page

What honestly hurts this page, and many like it. Is some people's capacity to include incosequential datas, spam, advert type stuff, and so forth. You must approach each page like its something you would honestly find in a reference guide, encyclopedia, etc. Not in the back of a magazine as an ad. Thus everything mentioned must be cited correctly. Inconsequential datas removed. And really try to make it more clear without making an ad and/or spam.

Can you make up your mind if Android should be included or not. You removed it, readded it and removed it a second time. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 11:22, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was seemingly added then removed then readded. Simply because of YOU! Was currently editing the page. Then you came in with linking JPEG. Linking JPEG for say a page about image formats. GOOD. Linking it on a page for a virtual universe .. silly. It has no merit for linking on the IMVU wiki. Add and link properly. Because otherwise people could link to every given word on every wiki. It must be related in some way. The only way it was related here was that it was an image format used. Not enough to give it its own link. Anyways I will leave you to your world. I do not get involved in online issues. You seem to be one for that. You may do so without me. I only edit and add things as best I can. Not because I wish to have a epeen issue with someone. You may add whatever you like to wiki. Just as I can. Have a good day.

You removed it here without any help from me. At the same time you changed the correctly capitalised section header and JPEG to an incorrectly capitalised version and changed the correctly spelt "derivative" to "derivitive". I linked it to show that it should be all capitals. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 11:42, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If I accidently changed something then that was my fault. Someone had added what IMVU stood for. And was reverting the change as even the creators mentioned it stood for nothing. Then was adding the link to the OS back then saw your changes. It gets a bit messy when 2 people edit something at the same time. Though this was the state of events for myself. As for headers you may freely look anywhere. Headers are often first letter capped. Not the initial word then following words in lowercase. Doing so is a improper use of title formatting. And thus anything of a title should be .. 'Some Title Here' not the latter of 'Some title here'. It gives effect and notice in the former. I really have to get going however, work calls. Was only adding to some pages. And fixing this one. Wiki had stated this page was mostly an advert. I have over a period tried to edit and make it better, to improve it, to make it less an advert. I am not trying to start fights, or argue, or spam. You may simply see I am only trying to improve wiki.

Are you sure about the capitalisation of section headers because the Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Capital letters says "Sentence case rather than title case is used in Wikipedia article titles and section headings;". I suggest you look at other articles such as New York City for examples of how proper nouns are capitalised and other words are not. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 12:01, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In linking you only proved my point. It states wiki uses sentence case not title case. A perspective of difference. It does not say that title case is wrong, or improper. Just that sentence case is used in preference. Which is 'Some title here' (sentence case) vs 'Some Title Here' (title case). Though, you wont see many professional businesses or papers using sentence case over title case. Title case is ofte n seen as more proper in applicability. Even wikipedias slogan is title cased. 'The Free Encyclopedia'. If wiki prefers a sentence case for titles. Why not do 'The free encyclopedia'? Overall, this is neither here nor there. Anyways I will end this here I rarely talk or get into online discussions. So please excuse me, I am sure you have more things to attend to as well. And I have coding work to do.

I will say, you should be after people causing issues in Wiki. Not those trying to improve it. While having a inconsequential discussion with me. I'm sure theres a page that is being maliciously changed, or users being jerks to one another. I come here to help. Being an admin you should understand this. Or you would have less people like me trying to beneficially add to wiki.

You may look at my user page to see I've tried to make this page better. Along with a few others.