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Speculation

Does the casting speculation regarding Clara really merit being in here? It is just speculation, and the article even states that "the BBC is yet to comment officially". Surely that's an admission that the speculation shouldn't be here? 31.49.158.59 (talk) 10:49, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We are not the ones doing the speculating, but we can report what other sources are speculating. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 11:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The cliffhanger

Isn't the cliffhanger supposed to be the second last episode since it's "the penultimate episode"? 220.255.1.149 (talk) 14:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two partner. The penultimate quote is given. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 19:21, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

I don't really know what everybody is talking about here. Block One of production is confirmed to comprise of episode three and episode four. This is supported by a source to Doctor Who Magazine. The source that I have been trying to input is this: http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/toby-whithouse-two-parter-confirmed-for-series-9-71155.htm

People have been telling me that this source doesn't support the fact that Derek Ritchie will be producing the Block of production. You only need to read into the second paragraph where it says this however: "The episodes currently being filmed are written by Toby Whithouse (The Game, Being Human), produced by Derek Ritchie and directed by Daniel O’Hara (Silent Witness 2015, The Game, Being Human)".

Everything you need to know is here. Ritchie will be producing "the episodes currently being filmed". The episodes "currently being filmed" are episodes 3 and 4 as proved by the source from Doctor Who Magazine. What's not to understand?

Forgive me if I sound stupid but it's just frustrating when I have got something right and sourced and people delete it. 86.134.246.132 (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If Doctor Who Magazine specifically states that these are indeed episodes 3 and 4, then cite it as a source. You only keep adding the BBC news page, which does not give that information. That is why it is removed. All you need to do is add <ref>Doctor Who Magazine, issue XX, page XX</ref>. Only then does it become verifiable (as in, others can check). However, note that you can not take two separate sources and draw a conclusion that is not explicitly stated in either source; that is WP:SYNTH. Hope this helps. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 21:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes 3 and 4 have been confirmed by Doctor Who Magazine to be included in Block One. This is a completely separate source and has got its own reference which I have not added. This source hasn't been removed by yourself or anyone else so I'm assuming you believe it to be reliable (which it is because I happen to own a copy of the magazine myself). Block One is filmed first. Block One has been established to consist of episodes 3 and 4 (as stated in DWM). Block One is written by Toby Whithouse (as confirmed by the BBC yesterday), directed by Daniel O'Hara and produced by Derek Ritchie (as stated in the source that I have been trying to add). It clearly states "the episodes currently being filmed" before these three names. Therefore the episodes currently being filmed are episodes 3 and 4, written by Toby Whithouse, directed by Daniel O'Hara and produced by Derek Ritchie. Everything I have been trying to add into this production table is fully supported by two separate sources. I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding something here but if these two sources are not linked at all (which they clearly are), then they should - by default - contradict each other. They are both official so they have to work together. Thanks in advance for managing to read this far into my extensive comment --86.134.246.132 (talk) 16:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is exactly what often frustrates me about Wikipedia. You are completely correct, it's extremely unlikely that eps 3 and 4 are not written by Toby Whitehouse, this is a completely sane and correct conclusion to come to. The only thing stopping it being valid is that due to some silly Wikipedia protocol, drawing that kind of completely correct inference, when no source explicitly states "Toby Whitehouse has written episodes three and four", is not allowed - it's very technically "original research". I entirely agree with you, it's ridiculous and silly. C'est la vie. 86.156.11.86 (talk) 18:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly! We know Block One consists of episodes 3 and 4. We know Block One consists of two episodes written by Toby Whithouse. Therefore it's pretty obvious that Whithouse is writing episodes 3 and 4 if they are in Block One and he is writing Block One. I really hope the "moderators" here realise that and are just sticking by these silly guidelines despite their knowledge. If they don't then ... well.--86.134.246.132 (talk) 18:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request Verification

"Filming and principal photography for the series began on 5 January 2015 in Cardiff,[5][6] with episodes 3 & 4 making up the first production block.[21][verification needed]"

Reference 21: "Doctor Who Magazine Gallifrey Guardian". Doctor Who Magazine (Panini) (482): Page 5. 8 January 2014. Retrieved 9 January 2014.

For the Christmas Countdown, a free exclusive preview of Issue 482 was released here - if this is the correct issue, I can see nothing on Page 5 about the first production block. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 14:02, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is only a preview issue. In the published version, the interview with Coleman begins on page 12 and not straight away on page 2 as seen in the preview addition. It also has 82 pages in total so this preview version has simply been condensed (as they would not release an entire magazine online for free a month before it has been officially published). --86.134.246.132 (talk) 18:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]