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Escape Orbit
Please leave messages on my talk page.

I am human, so sometimes I make mistakes. If you have come here to complain about something I have done, please do not take it personally.
Explain where you think I've gone wrong and I will happily explain what I was thinking when I did it. With your help I can rectify any errors I may have made. Thanks.

It's funny because it's true

I was thoroughly entertained by your (relatively ancient) edit here. You were able to express a policy point in a way that involved the possibility of Jeff Lynne dropping around your place for tea, and that's a valuable contribution. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 17:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well he's still very welcome. He could bring Richard Tandy. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discography

I'm very disappointed that you removed my contribution. I think information about music should actually include a link to the music, not just chatter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliemargaret (talk • contribs) 00:58, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A link to the music wouldn't be one that lead to your blog, or act as a portal for sales through Amazon Associates that earns your blog referral fees. If you think these article would benefit with a list of artists who have covered the song, and some of them would be extremely long and uninformative lists, then please add it to the article itself. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 19:17, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

5 Things You Should Do in Hong Kong's Universities

Thanks for your suggestion. I am the author of the article of "5 Things You Should Do in Hong Kong's Universities". It is a term orginated from the University of Hong Kong and it has been widely used by Hong Kong local's media press, newspapers and universities. Every Hong Kong students recognize such term. We actually have cited the source of its originality: gexpress.gened.hku.hk/files/past_issues/issue8.pdf

To have a further insight, please feel free to visit :http://wp.cedars.hku.hk/form/node/45

Sources: http://news.takungpao.com.hk/paper/q/2014/0324/2373728.html (local newspapers which adopt the term of "5 things to do in Hong Kong's Universities) 

       https://osantd.osa.cuhk.edu.hk/scdsmain/chihtml/index.php?page=uni_one_story  (The Chinese University of Hong Kong has published a newsletter about "5 things to do in Universities") 
       http://evchk.wikia.com/wiki/%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%B8%E8%A1%93%E8%AA%9E (The Encyclopedia of Virtual Communities in Hong Kong has provided a detailed explanation of those 5 things)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicoyu0710 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

November 2014

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Rangers F.C.

Hello. I'm messaging to ask why you undid my edit to the Rangers F.C. article. Can you explain what is nonconstructive about adding one of the club's nicknames? Thanks. Zacwill16 (talk) 22:36, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

livesimplylove

Hello, i just startend the lifesimplylove project last months with friends. Please take it off the list for speedy nomination. It is a good cause.kind regards, phil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.156.195 (talk) 23:50, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia is notability, not whether it is a good cause or not. You also shouldn't be adding articles about projects you are personally involved with. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 23:53, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mayoon - Alexander the Great's Army

I appreciate your edits to the Mayoon article. I selected this article for editing because it appeared in a WP listing of pieces in desperate need of a complete overhaul. It was a mess when I began (you can see that in earlier histories). You are correct that citations and references are still needed - I just unearthed a nice original document about a battle at Mayoon, written in the 19th C by a Brit who was wounded there. I'll be adding that soon. Still looking for other references to cite for other parts of the article.

Twice you have deleted the story about Alexander the Great's army because it is only speculated that the Mayoons are descended of his leagues. You are correct. This bit was in the original piece by earlier authors, placed there months ago, and presented as unsubstantiated fact. (I don't know why no one bothered to remove it until I started these edits.) Like you, I was tempted to delete the piece entirely until I started doing the research. I would like to see this left in because (even though it is unproven) there are references to the idea that the local residents believe they are descendants of the failed invasion's soldiers. This would be similar to saying that people who are Christians believe Jesus was the Messiah. It is a cultural belief even if it refers to a speculative notion and it is left in the Jesus articles because - speculative or not - it is what some people believe. Can you help me find an appropriate way to indicate that the Mayoons believe their light skin and European features are the result of Illyrian lineage? It should be said in a way that indicates this in an unfounded belief, but one that the people there take seriously. As evidence of the latter, I used a YouTube video. I previewed seven (!) and this one seemed the best representation of their idea. (It was not "a random" link to YouTube, but a selected representative clip.) Again, the point is not to say there is any truth in their notion, but it is a culturally held idea of the locals. (I placed it in a new Culture section I added partly for this reason.) If you could help with the wordsmithing, that would be great! Thanks! --Migco (talk) 21:31, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, when I said "random" I meant in the way that it was no way authoritative. It appears to be an edited and strangely overdubbed (sounds like a computer generated voice), most likely a copyright violation, and uploaded by an unknown "random" person. That makes it unsuitable, because what it says could have been manipulated or misinterpreted in dozens of way. I've no problem at all of adding this as a cultural and historical belief of the Mayoons, but it's something that needs a good source. Suitably and neutrally worded it can then be left to the reader to decide how credible a claim it is, Wikipedia shouldn't be making that decision. Happy to help out if you can locate a good source. Youtube videos are rarely good sources. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:48, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help. I will look for other sources. The article has been a major time-sink, but it's an interesting topic. Very few sources are in any of the languages I can read. Again, about the YouTube video - it was not used as a reference to prove that the people are Illyrian descendants (I agree that the video does not prove it) but rather I used the link to show that such beliefs exist, not to confirm any validity of those beliefs. However, I can see that linking to the clip might convey the impression that the abandoned army theory is a fact. I defer to your experience and concur that a better source should be found that indicates these people have this cultural belief. Thanks. --Migco (talk) 04:20, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Obama

You reverted my talk page update to the Obama Birth Certificate controversy. First question is why? The bottom line is that what I posted is factual, your ignoring it is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mycroft 514 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply on User talk:Mycroft 514. Talk page is not a forum for discussing theories or evidence. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:15, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, then where do you allow for presentation of evidence. i thought Wikipedia was supposed to be about truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mycroft 514 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're mistaken on the nature of Wikipedia. It is an encyclopedia and is primarily concerned with verifiability, not truth. It has nowhere for you to present your original research, because that's not what it does. If you believe you have the truth, then please publish it elsewhere. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:46, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Punch Buggy Edit

Hi. I hope this is the right place to post this reply to your Punch Buggy edit - I'm relatively new to the Wikipedia platform and I don't know what the protocol is for disputing an administrative edit.

You are correct that this is my first-hand observation, but that is all that exists for this topic -- and many other similar folk topics (be they games, stories, lyrics, etc.) that have a high degree of regional variation and neither an official document of record nor a recognized expert that can be cited. Does this mean we ignore all regional variants of these themes? Presumably not: much of this Punch Buggy entry would then be removed (eg, the Brazil variant and the Newport Beach variant -- which cites a self-published book on the topic, which is like citing one's own blog as a source), and other entries -- eg, "White elephant gift swap," which is almost entirely uncited variations on a folk game -- might have to go away altogether.

That would be a shame. These folk themes are an important part of our culture. They develop on their own in real time, not bound by any official text or historical record. How they manifest in different places directly reflects our regional diversity and I would argue is an important part of the human experience. Wikipedia is a platform -- the only platform ever invented -- that can effectively capture and record these vast, dynamic themes and present them accurately and completely in both real time and for the historical record. Isn't that what it's for?

Ralphieman (talk) 14:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mona Lisa

Probably another one of the many Kempler socks. Dougweller (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Docker Redirect

Hi EO,

Did you notice my response over here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bsouthwell#Docker Bsouthwell (talk) 17:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Saddles

Hello Mr. Escape Orbit, I was trying to edit the saddle page and noticed that it did not have a reliable source to get a quality made saddle for a good price. People read about them and if they get one I know I would want to see a link. It said at the top of the page that it was looking for a reliable source for saddles and they are as reliable as anybody. Please reconsider taking down the link. They sell more saddles than anyone in the world and they are a reliable source. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadebaize (talk • contribs) 17:47, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

references for sexism article

Hi, I've made a quick google for references this sentence:

"Many economists and feminist scholars have argued that this is the result of systemic gender-based discrimination in the workplace. Many others have argued that this is the natural result of women choosing to work less and in less well-paid professions. In the US, there exists a particularly acute problem with males consistently getting worse academic results than females. Some studies and sociologists point out how this is likely due to school emphasizing qualities that are more common in girls and less common in boys."

boys gap: http://www.amazon.com/The-WAR-AGAINST-BOYS-Misguided/dp/0684849577

female page gap: https://www.google.com/search?q=women+wage+gap+doesn%27t+exist&oq=women+wage+gap+doesn%27t+exist&aqs=chrome..69i57.8595j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8 supposedly there's a paper referenced in this article: http://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472 but I can't see the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.134.79.184 (talk) 23:56, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

as I'm not that familiar for wikipedia, can you point me to what kind of material in those cases could be good references? it seemed to me that to say that "some studies and sociologists" and "many others" is quite justified given the amount of results found for both topics

thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.134.79.184 (talk) 23:44, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Full circle rainbow

In response to your remarks to my latest edit in Full circle rainbow, whether 1) confusion with the 22° halo is common, and whether 2) "snowbow" is an inaccurate term: 1. Yes, the confusion is fairly common: A google query for "full circle rainbow" results in many images of the 22° halo. 2. Halos are not caused by snow (i.e., conglomerates of dendritic ice crystals), but by free floating ice crystals in the shape of hexagonal prisms: see http://atoptics.co.uk/halo/crystals.htm. If one must insist, "ice bow" would be closer to reality, except for the fact that a 22° halo rarely shows as a "bow" but rather as a full circle. Drabkikker (talk) 14:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: It would seem a snowbow is a different phenomenon: See the newly added section Snowbow. I am unable to verify this, but until further notice I've removed the reference in Full circle rainbow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drabkikker (talk • contribs) 16:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Auramics

Dear Escape Orbit Thanks for adjusting the [Auramics] page, but that music blog wasn't a personal blog it was a legitimate music blog that is featured on hype machine, please advise: http://soundinjections.net/post/103220217213/new-auramics-dagger-cordis http://hypem.com/blog/sound+injections/17444

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