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This article is misleading in that not every unit-related heraldic item on the US Army uniform is a DUI. Many of the items on this page are actually Regimental Distinctive Insignia. DUIs are essentially for every unit that isn't a regiment, i.e. an MP or signal battalion, HHC for a division, or TRADOC school elements. An RDI specifically refers to either regimental insignia, for example the 14th Cavalry Regiment or the 3rd Infantry Regiment, and the RDI also refers to whole-corps regiments, i.e. the MI Corps or the Chemical Corps. The article makes it seem that RDIs are DUIs which isn't the case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.90.22.236 (talk) 22:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are splitting hairs, almost all of these insignia were authorized as DUIs decades before the Army created the U.S. Army Regimental System in 1981. They are still DUIs, however when worn centered 1⁄8 inch above the top of the pocket flap, or 1⁄4 inch above any unit awards or foreign badges that are worn they are considered RDIs. (AR 670-1). Ehrentitle (talk) 00:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know this was addressed a while ago, but I believe it would be worth explaining the correlation between DUI and RDI in this article. Essentially, for combat arms regiments under USARS, the RDI is the DUI. As Ehrentitle mentioned the only visible difference is concerning the placement on the uniform; however, in this case the DUI refers to unit of assignment whereas the RDI refers to regimental affiliation. To point, an infantryman assigned to the 23d Infantry (DUI) can be affiliated with the 17th Infantry (RDI). The counterpoint is that the RDI for whole corps regiments is not a DUI. If there are no objections I believe it should be added in. I will do the adding as well if the original author has no issues. Thanks.Kintrix (talk) 06:52, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

101st Airborne

I can't work out where this goes, so I'm just gonna leave this here: File:101AirborneDivDUI.jpg

Many of the links for DUIs come within WP:ELNO #13. Would Global Security.org be allowed in the EL section? The GS links to individual units happen to display DUIs for the units, but simply putting the name of a unit in the 'Examples' section with a link to GS is poor presentation. The http://www.militarymuseum.org/ link goes to the California Military Museum, and would be better placed in EL section. Everyone who served with pride in their unit would love to see their unit's DUI in the gallery, but if they do they should load up proper images. Even so, the Examples section might become an endless listing of images. At present, even without actual images, this section is WP:NOTGALLERY.--S. Rich (talk) 16:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Galleries removed

Now that the galleries have been removed, perhaps there should be a link to a WikiCommons Gallery with all the images that use to exist on this page?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:57, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shoulder Marks vs. Shoulder Loops

Since my correction was reverted by RightCowLeftCoast, I will address it here. The article refers to wearing the DUI on shoulder marks; the DUI is not worn on shoulder marks, it is worn on the jacket "shoulder loops" for enlisted and officer (O-6 and below) on the Class A Army Green Uniform, and for enlisted personnel when wearing the Class A Army Service Uniform. I erroneously stated they were worn on the epaulette. If there are no objections here, I will make the correction again and cite AR 670-1. Kintrix (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]