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A crowd of 200,000?

This must be a mistake. 2,000 would already be a huge crowd for that time and venueZeisseng 18:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

To illustrate my point on references I have provided a Link. The tag at the top of the article has been there for quite some time. [1] You will also notice the efforts which are going into referencing this article. If the information in the article is challenged, you could hardly keep referring to two sources and leave it at that. For example which source for which statement? Another example of a well referenced articles is this, [2]. Now we can hardly expect one standard of referencing for one article, if we are likewise not going to accept it on all articles. Regards--Domer48 09:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Long Parliament

The passage which says there was no choice but to dismiss Parliament in November 1640 and that the Long Parliamnet assembled on 3 November 1640 does not seem to make sense. Should this read "recall parliament" instead of "dismiss" ?--Streona (talk) 09:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strafford's letter to the king

The impression that the final paragraph of the "The failure of impeachment and the Bill of Attainder" section is that Strafford was prepared to die for the king. Surely we should add a section referencing the view that in fact Strafford's letter was a ploy, and he intended the King to show it to the Lords, and in a similar way to the case of Father Goodman, gain their sympathy? This would explain some of his last words: "Put not your trust in princes". I think Laud also said something on the matter, I can't remember it exactly, something like "He [Charles] knew not how to be great nor how to be made great". I.e, he didn't cotton on to Strafford's plan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.20.173 (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Criminal History of the English Government

  • Regnault, Eugene (1843), The Criminal History of the English Government, from the First Massacre of the Irish, to the Poisoning of the Chinese, J.S. Redfield, Clinton Hall, pp. 20-21, translated from the French, with notes by an American, publishers J.S. Redfield, Clinton Hall

Given the origin of this book, its date of publication and its title (as well as the contents as displayed in the Wikipedia article) this is a polemic with a strong POV. While the POV may be useful for a sentence or two, I think that the two paragraphs which have been incorporated from the book word for word are unnecessary as the article already summarises the paragraphs with "Wentworth ignored Charles's promise that no colonists should be forced into Connaught,..."

So I am removing the source and the paragraphs that rely on it. -- PBS (talk) 16:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Get rich quick

I think a paragraph on Wentworth running of a regime that allowed men like Sir Philip Perceval to amass 101,000 acres of Irish land, would be a useful addition to this article. -- PBS (talk) 18:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reference

There's something wrong if a Google book - Castle, Egerton (1574), English book-plates: ancient and modern, G. Bell & sons, is being cited as a reference for the biography of a man born 19 years after it was printed! Bloody hell, a bit of common sense please! Just because Google screwed on the book's publication date, doesn't mean we need to mindlessly follow them.Catsmeat (talk) 17:33, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok fixed.Catsmeat (talk) 17:36, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jigginstown Castle

Some reference, and a link, to Jigginstown Castle would seem appraoriate, but I'm not sure how or where to work that into the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:27, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]