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Fails WP:MMANOT CrazyAces489 (talk) 05:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria supporting notability
Subject of multiple independent articles/documentaries--articles should be from national or international media, not just local coverage or press releases from organizations Maybe
Fought for the highest title of a top tier MMA organization No
Fought at least three (3) fights for top tier MMA organizations No
CrazyAces489 (talk) 05:44, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. CrazyAces489 (talk) 05:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

comment Fails WP:MMANOTCrazyAces489 (talk) 12:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A dodgy MMA guideline isn't the be all and end all. He is more of a fighting 'personality' than someone who can judged on his achievements in either MMA or boxing. --Michig (talk) 17:18, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
He is known for MMA. He fails MMANOTE and BoxNote. CrazyAces489 (talk) 20:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
comment He is an MMA fighter. Has not met criterea. Fails WP:MMANOTCrazyAces489 (talk) 12:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The MMA criteria are built up through consensus and are subject to change. They give a pretty good indicator of notability but have never been meant to be a hard, dare I say legalistic, line - I would not call them dodgy. I do agree with Michig that he is more of a fighting 'personality' than someone who can judged on his achievements in either MMA or boxing and his coverage backs that up. He meets WP:GNG. If we are discussing strict MMA guidelines he has 2 of 3 Top Tier fights and has signed a multifight deal with Bellator with that magical third fight scheduled - I would leave it alone for that reason alone.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:33, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
commentHe fails MMANote and BoxingNot. You also can't use WP:CRYSTALBALL. The thirds fight hasn't happened. The other "UFC" fight is for a reality show and wasn't a true UFC event. Additionally these pages were deleted for not having a third fight... [1] and [2] CrazyAces489 (talk) 20:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It's debatable whether he's notable enough just for his MMA history, or his boxing history, or even his acting history. But when you combine all three, I think he is more than notable enough for an article on Wikipedia. 209.90.140.72 (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep He had four fights in EliteXC, two of them were main events on national television. At the time of these fights, EliteXC was a "top tier MMA organization". He has also been an actor in a few movies, has a participated in several professional boxing fights, and is a well known internet personality and "street fighter". If he was just one of these things his place on Wiki would be debatable, but as the person said above, the combination of all these things make him more that notable enough to warrant a Wiki article about him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luxus420 (talkcontribs) 23:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment According to WP:MMATIER EliteXC was a second tier organization. He fails WP:MMANOT and WP:NBOX. This individual just failed an AFD and is has more quality fights than Kimbo and is a well known kickboxer. [[3]] CrazyAces489 (talk) 01:50, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]