Talk:Jessica Valenti
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High School
Her HS is commented out. The school is notable, and she's mentioned in the list of Stuyvesant High School people.♥ «Charles A. L.» (talk) 03:29, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Criticism
A comedian creating a stir with an offensive joke would usually warrant a "criticism" section. So why isn't there one for a blogger so blatantly controversial as Valenti? Is it because we're not allowed to criticize them?
Deletion
I recommend deleting this article. There is little information of substance to support why this person has a record here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pencilsketcher (talk • contribs) 00:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I agree, she's little more than a blogger. Why should she be represented here? Bringing feminism to the internet? So? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.73.3 (talk) 08:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- There are procedures to get an article deleted. Feel free to start one, but it will get laughed out of town. Mezigue (talk) 10:21, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Self-links
Two editors (User:Nick Number and I) have properly removed self-links, and had our edits reverted by User:Damiens.rf, whom I assume to be acting in good faith. Policy against self-links has been pointed out in edit comments; boldface links are not supposed to be used for emphasis. @Damiens.rf: please discuss before reverting the removal again. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 20:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- {ping|Lwarrenwiki}}: "boldface links are not supposed to be used for emphasis" Where does that comes from? The citation template could just ignore the autorlink parameter on these cases, or show an error message. But instead, it chooses to bold them. There must be a reason.
- If we don't like bolding such links, we should change the template instead. --damiens.rf 19:47, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- This suggestion has already been discussed at Help talk:Citation Style 1, and there does not seem to be consensus for making such a change. There isn't a compelling reason to make an exception to the existing guideline from Help:Self link. Nick Number (talk) 21:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- I've responded at Help talk:Citation Style 1. (Also, the citation template doesn't cause the bolding; it wasn't a feature deliberately added to the citation template. The bolding happens everywhere on Wikipedia – every self-link on Wikipedia gets bolded.) Lwarrenwiki (talk) 22:43, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- I didn't know the was just a side effect of it being a self-link. I thought it was a decision made by the authors of the cite template. Things make more sense to me now. --damiens.rf 15:29, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- I've responded at Help talk:Citation Style 1. (Also, the citation template doesn't cause the bolding; it wasn't a feature deliberately added to the citation template. The bolding happens everywhere on Wikipedia – every self-link on Wikipedia gets bolded.) Lwarrenwiki (talk) 22:43, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Links to social media sites
I think the external links to Valenti's Facebook and Twitter pages should be removed due to WP:ELNO. I removed them and was reverted. That policy says one should generally avoid linking to "Social networking sites (such as Myspace, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), Twitter feeds, Usenet newsgroups or e-mail lists," except for WP:ELOFFICIAL. According to WP:ELMINOFFICIAL, "Normally, only one official link is included." We're already including her official website in the external links. Relevant here: "However, Wikipedia does not provide a comprehensive web directory to every official website. Wikipedia does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites. Complete directories lead to clutter and to placing undue emphasis on what the subject says." We have a link to her official website, and that's enough. We needn't create a handy list of her social media accounts. It comes across as promotional. Thanks. Safehaven86 (talk) 16:00, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
- Agree. All Wikipedia pages aren't required to look alike, but it's instructive to look at other BLPs of people in the same categories as Valenti. Inclusion of social networking sites is very far from the norm (i.e., my brief survey didn't turn up a single one). Lwarrenwiki (talk) 16:27, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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