- Davey2010 You should do some research instead of simply nominating the article for deletion. [2]. There is more than enough material readily available to anyone with even the slightest inclination to look. Even you admit that she was in "2 very notable films". Regarding your assertion about the IMDB, you cannot even have a page on there without having some level of verifiable notability. Ormr2014 | Talk
- Ormr2014 - Are you completely blind as if you look above you will see I have searched on 2 sites and 30+pages, Those Google Results are all irrelevant - Don't you think if they were relevant I would've used them?!, IMDb isn't a reliable source whatsoever - IMDb is free to edit like Wikipedia so it's not a source, Again invalid vote - As I said right above Please provide legitimate sources that establish notability which so far you haven't done. –Davey2010Talk 02:27, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Davey2010 I'm not blind at all. And as for what you would or wouldn't do, I don't have a clue, but I do see a lot of people proposing to delete all sorts of things that really have no business being deleted and from my perspective, this is such a case. Ormr2014 | Talk
- Ormr2014 - Well I'm hardly gonna lie about looking am I ... As you'll see from my edits here[3] I actually planned on sourcing it but how can one source an article if there is none? ...., If they don't meet notability requirements they have every right to be deleted, I would thank you on providing sources but you've not listed any which clearly indicates you haven't or can't find anything so thus proves my point - No evidence of notability to warrant an article. –Davey2010Talk 02:40, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Davey2010
How's This:
Filmography
- Kidulthood (2006) as Claire
- Adulthood (2008) as
- Dude Wheres Gary's Finger (2010) as Gaz 'Fingertron' Hardy
Television work
- Drake And Josh (2004; 1 episode) as Mandy
- Casualty (2008; 1 episode) as Amber Collins
- West 10 LDN (2008) (television series pilot) as Lillian
- Missing (2009; 1 episode) as Kaz Gutenburg Project
There is more than enough to deem this article "notable". That her filmography includes not only two major motion pictures and a smaller film, but also spans 4 television programs establishes enough "notability" to be encyclopedic. How you cannot see this is beyond me. Ormr2014 | Talk
- 1st is a Wikipedia mirror, 2 and 3 aren't reliable sources, 4 doesn't work and again 5 is useless ... so again no notability, Please read WP:Reliable sources, With all respect I've been here 2-3 years so I know alot more than you ..... Give up and !vote Delete it'll save us both time. –Davey2010Talk 03:27, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I've found the the book but it looks to have mostly been copied from here and elsewhere so again not really source. –Davey2010Talk 03:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually,Davey2010, I've been editing on Wikipedia for over 5 years under 3 different accounts, so I'm going to disagree with you on the last point. And as for the first source it's obvious you didn't read it or even look at it; it's not remotely even similar to Wikipedia, much less a "mirror". You make a lot of claims about the sources, as if you've done a scholarly analysis or something. How did you determine they are "not reliable", and stop pointing to the Wikipedia guidelines, it's a cop out. Explain what makes these particular sources unreliable per Wikipedia's policies. And how exactly did you determine the book has been "mostly copied from elsewhere"; please give a reference to the original work.
- I've said my piece and I'm going to leave it at that. Others can decide whether or not to include it here... Ormr2014 | Talk
So you've been here for 5 years yet with all respect you're absolutely clueless as to what's reliable sources and what isn't, The first was copied from Wikipedia - Look at the edits before mine - Completely the same ... It was copied word for word and again how you can't see that is honestly beyond me, Well IMDB isn't per WP:Citing IMDB as it's a known fact IMDB isn't a reliable source, The rest aren't at all and anyone who's edited here for a long time would know that, The book was copied from here and elsewhere that's plainly obvious, Others won't include it because they're not reliable sources and they don't establish notability, BTW I apologize for constantly hatting it's just this is becoming very big. –Davey2010Talk 14:44, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Davey2010 Where at in Wikipedia was this filmography copied from? Certainly not the article you're proposing to delete, as this article did not even list her television appearances.
As for the rest of what you stated, when writing articles or adding citations myself, I have tried to use only scholarly, news or educational sources. This is my own personal choice and has nothing to do with any policies here. I only recently began looking over the AFD articles and I admit I didn't know about Wikipedia's policy concerning the IMDB. I work for a company that does movie and music productions and I know it's not a simple matter to get on the IMDB so I assumed this gave credibility. But regardless, I still hold my opinion that the article should remain. This woman is not some fly-by-night actress; she's been in two major motion pictures, one minor film, several television shows and I've seen many other people who've done much less in Wikipedia without so much as the slightest bit of protest. Ormr2014 (talk) 23:14, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Ormr2014 - I'm not ganna argue - You're entitled to your opinions and to be frank we both have better things to do than to keep bickering over this, You feel it should be kept ... I disagree ... But the world turns :)
- I apologize for calling you clueless as that was rather uncalled for and pretty much pointless - There's things on this place I'm still clueless with myself so having a go at you wasn't helpful so I've struck it out, Anyway thanks & happy editing :) –Davey2010Talk 23:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Davey2010 You didn't need to apologize, but I do appreciate it. I'm Irish in every bit of the stereotypical way; I'm arrogant, hard-headed, extremely opinionated and I often get irritated when my opinions/thoughts are questioned. I try to keep that mindset out of my editing here, but believe me when I say there have been more than a couple of times when I let my emotions get the best of me and I said things that were best left unsaid!
- In any event, you're absolutely right about this article; it isn't worth dragging on any more. You take care. Ormr2014 (talk) 23:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Ormr2014 - Well I do because I was a bit of a dick, Haha you me both - It's very easy to let your emotions get in the way here hell like yourself I've said things that I shouldn't of said, it's all too too easy,
- Thanks and you take care too, Happy editing :), –Davey2010Talk 23:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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