Talk:India

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• India is the 29th most referenced article on the English Wikipedia. It was registered with 23,177 incoming links in January 2006.
• India is English Wikipedia's 79th most popular page, and the 6th most popular country after USA, Germany, France, UK and Japan.

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Selection of images

Please see: /Picture selection to select images for the India page. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

International Ties to India

The South Asia Free Trade Agreement should be added to this box, I would've done it myself but I don't know how to. If you look at the International Ties to Pakistan on the Pakistan page you will see what I'm talking about. Gsingh 16:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

oldest living city

According to this, Varanasi is not the oldest continuously inhabited city. Rather it comes out as 8th. Damascus is the oldest continuously-lived city. --Ragib 17:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Oldest city in the world - HighBeam Research

One of the Oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world. - Encyclopedia Britannica

That article is not verified and complete and it is also lacking sources. - Holy Ganga ^talk 20:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Images

I've noticed 3 images have been put up in the recent past with unacceptable/dubious copyright statuses.

• Akshardam temple: deemed a copyvio and removed last month

Yes, someone had uploaded that image by claiming it his own work but later it was found that it was copyvio. Many people reverted it back because of false information provided by that user. - Holy Ganga ^talk 18:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

• Image:India INC.jpg which is the cover of a magazine. Such images will never be free, and user:150.101.102.188 was quite justified in removing it, when ample free images are available. The very fact that his edits were reverted by three users points to a lack of verification of an IPs edit.

Image is a Time magazine cover with proper licencing. Time magazine covers always carry weight and are considered among very reputed coverage, and economic issues related with modern face of Indian economy on a cover of Time magazine is directly representing future of Indian economy and it's presence on a global scale.- Holy Ganga ^talk 18:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but the image is fair use and can only be used on the article for the magazine, or for an article on that specific issue of the magazine. I am also one of those that previously reverted the removal of the image, but it was a mistake for me to do so. --GraemeL ^(talk) 18:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, i think that image which talks about Indian Economic Power is related with Indian economy. Also, it is representing outsourcing and customer care aspects of New Indian economy and that again are directly related with issues present in Indian economy section. - Holy Ganga ^talk 18:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No, that's not how we put up a fair use image. We are allowed to comment on the picture, not the subject of the picture. And the cover does not mention anything about outsourcing. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

But it directly deals with Indian economy, it's strength, it's future, it's global affects.- Holy Ganga ^talk 19:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

You missunderstand the word "issue" in the context of the license. It doesn't mean the issue of the economy of India, it means that particular issue of the magazine. The image cannot be used in any article that is not directly about Time. Sorry, I should clarify that. If you want to add a section to this article specifically about the Time report on the economy of India, then the image could be used here. --GraemeL ^(talk) 19:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No, i didn't misunderstand. What would you say about these some 400 Time magazine covers used in various articles of wikipedia? Also, as per Time magazine licence.."It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of TIME magazine covers used...

to illustrate an article, or part of an article, which specifically describes the issue IN QUESTION OR ITS COVER." What is the issue pic is talking about?... Indian Economy? Well, Indian Economy of largest democracy are also the issue in question here. Yes, we can also add latest Time magazine report on the Indian economy. Regards, - Holy Ganga ^talk 19:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

That's going a bit too far to defend a copyrighted image. Why are you averse to having free images? Two years we struggled to have a decent picture on this page. A lot has changed since then, and freer images are available now. I suggest that you be patient and look for images that are free and represent the economy. And besides, the Indian economy does not need a thumbs up from a foreign magazine to show that it is on the rise. Let statistics do the talking. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

No, you are going to far against that (red dot) image, Nicholas. Where does it says Time magazine images are not allowed? There is a separate licence specifically for Time magazine even today. It deals with Indian economy, latest issue and furture based on it's strength. Your comments on edit page points that you Didn't you even read the cover page article before removing the link of latest cover page issue of one of the most reputed Magazines? - Holy Ganga ^talk 08:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Please see the fair use policy statement below. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes dear, i undestand as i already explained below. There is no free alternative equivalent of this image right now. That building pic is definately not an equivalent replacement for an image which covers so many latest issues of Indian economy. Well, i will not revert it back incase you as an admin decided to neglect these easy to understand logical points for your one way approach. Thanks and Regards, - Holy Ganga ^talk 09:55, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

To represent the Indian economy, you're commenting on the subject of the image, not the article. If it is put up, won't remove the image in my capacity as admin, but as an editor. I'm sure we can find free images to put up – flickr, and commons may have something useful. Our foremost goal is to keep wikipedia free. =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Time may be a reputed magazine but official policy states that: Always use a more free alternative if one is available. Such images can often be used more readily outside the U.S. If you see a fair use image and know of an alternative more free equivalent, please replace it, so the Wikipedia can become as free as possible. (Wikipedia:Fair use#Policy #1). =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any latest equivalent for that image right now which can present Indian economy on a global scale, shows the popular aspects of outsourcing and customer care (which are face of India on a global scale right now) and at the same deals with future face of India as economic superpower. I will definately replace that Image if and whenever i found better than that. Promise! Regards, - Holy Ganga ^talk 18:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you can list your image here: /Picture selection? =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

East, west , North or south...North eastern or central? - Holy Ganga ^talk 19:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

None. It's not free. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, None...east, west south, north, central catagories are useless for most of the images that will be used on India article. - Holy Ganga ^talk 08:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, we should strive for a freer Wikipedia. That is, we should prefer a free image over a non-free one unless the non-free is critical for commentary. Summing up the debate here, I think we should debate on whether the Time Magazine's image is overwhelmingly more informative, useful and critical than the other one. Personally, I am not convinced that the Time Magazine's image is critical for the article. It is an asset, but not critical. Opinions? -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:09, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is definately much more critical, more informative and covers larger issue of Indian economy and it's emergence as a global power than any building pic.(both issues are present in this article). My opinion is it should be here till we find freer image equivalent to Time magazine. Afterall, there is a separate licence provided for Time magazine and there are about 400 time magazine covers present in many important and reputed articles all over Wikipedia. - Holy Ganga ^talk 15:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't buy the arguments in the second half of your reply. The fair-use template is present, but that's because Time magazine is a reputed and popular magazine. Wikipedia's policies are separate and they require us to prefer free over fair use images unless critical. The issue of criticality is definitely debatable and I think we should ask other editors what they think. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

• Image:Parliament building New Delhi.jpg -- uploaded as a cc-by-sa image but is infact a cc-by--nc-sa image, which is not acceptable in WP.

Thanks for pointing it out, i have replaced it now. Regards, - Holy Ganga ^talk 18:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

=Nichalp «Talk»= 18:05, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry guys, I reverted the Time image back without looking at the lengthy discussion here. I only saw that the anon user had received some warnings and therefore reverted his change. Please feel free to remove if the image is a copy-vio. -- Lost 11:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I just want to point out that the insertion/removal of the Times cover is causing some possible WP:3RR violations. So, let's resolve the issue in the talk page. Personally, I think it is better NOT to use such Times covers, as the justification for fair use is a bit far fetched. As pointed out by Ambuj, the image is not critical, and there are free alternatives. --Ragib 15:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

FWIW, my baarah anna - Insertion of the pic in the way it has been done is patently wrong and more importantly, violates the spirit of WP. Please see Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Ta_bu_shi_da_yu 2. Of course, I may have appeared to be on the opposing side then, however, I insisted on following propriety and being courteous, but did not oppose the actions Per se. --Gurubrahma 06:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Economy

I have strong objections to this statement: According to "Time magazine", India is now becoming a global power. Why is only one magazine singled out? Global power in what sense? If it is economic, then why not use the official credit ratings like the World Bank and IMF? Yes, Time is a reputed magazine, but does the emergence Indian economy need to be attested by a single American magazine? Why can't statistics do the talking? =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

1. Time magazine is one of the most reputed magazines which carry a strong weight.
2. It's LATEST issue (with a cover page on Indian economy) discusses indepth about present state and future of Indian economy.
3. Global power means Economic OR Military power. As per cover page it directly talks about India becoming an economic power.
4. Statistics are OK but latest reputed indepth analysis (as a ref. link) should also be there.

I don't think one short line with a ref. which can provide so much reputed indepth analysis of latest issues of Indian economy should create any problem.- Holy Ganga ^talk 10:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree with Nichalp. The reference to time magazine is too light in the context of the country. I am also surprised at the sentence: India's large English middle-class has contributed to the country's growth in Business Process Outsourcing (BPO). The editor means “English Speaking” Middle Class hopefully. --Bmanisk 09:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm also with Nichalp on this because the statement, in its current form doesn't give any context. Say something like "Time" in its cover story opined that India is now becoming a global power due to ......... and then it would be relevant. Filling those blanks gives some perspective rather than saying that some mag said something. --Gurubrahma 06:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Map of India

Hi, is there an official (Government of India) site which states that it is illegal in India to publish the India map with the PoK as not belonging to India? Thanks for the help -- Wikicheng 06:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

This page merely points out the disputed territories. It doesn't give any judgement. Is is wrong to tell what is the dispute? I don't think so. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The GoI position is that there's no "Kashmir dispute", but a "Kashmir situation" caused by illegal occupation by Pakistan and terrorism. Looking at it this way, calling Kashmir a dispute is not neutral enough for the Indian government, and showing Kashmir as disputed on a map is indeed illegal in India. deeptrivia (talk) 05:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not disputing the dispute :-). I wanted this info for some other purpose. I am looking for the the statement by the India government that it is illegal to publish such maps in India. -- Wikicheng 07:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes. As far as I know, it is illegal. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 07:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's the official map. It does acknowledge POK. -- Lost 07:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

It acknowledges the existence of a LoC different from the de jure border, but does not accept it as legitimate (or de jure). Within India, it is indeed illegal to publish a map showing the PoK as being distinct from India. Maps printed in foreigh publications that enter the country (TIME, National Geographic) are stamped with a notice which reads something like "The borders of India as depicted in this map are neither true nor accurate." ImpuMozhi 22:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Why does this matter? Wikimedia's servers are not located in India, they are so in Florida, and hence do not fall under Indian jurisdiction. Also, like ImpuMozhi said above, foreign publications are allowed in India with that note, I think most of the location maps showing kashmir/India/Pakistan, by now, have that note added. --Ragib 02:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course it doesn't matter for Wikipedia. I was (and am still) looking for an official statement by the govt of India stating that it is illegal. I have googles enough but couldn't locate the statement. I wanted this for a totally different purpose, not even remotely connected to my favourite Wikipedia. -- Wikicheng 05:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[1], [2], and [3] seem to be the closest resources to what you're asking for though an official statement by GoI is still elusive. --

Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 05:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

MEh, they don't want to seem too rigid, they aren't going around banning everything with PoK as part of Pakistan (Although, pakistan calls it Azad (free) even though it's in thier control, odd). Anyway, I doubt you'll find such a statement, its more about patriotic nationalist rhetoric more than anything. -XK

As and independent observer, I believe its necessary that the disputed regions of Kashmir be clearly demarcated as such. This has no regard to either India's or Pakistan's claim to the territory but rather should be done in regard to maintaining impartiality. Also as regard to Azad Kashmir (which was also shown in the map displayed as part of India),it is a autonomous region with its own government, thus can not be stated as being apart of either India or Pakistan.

Emerging superpower

I strongly object to the opening statement of this article "India, officially the Republic of India, is a country and emerging superpower located in South Asia". By merging fact with what is at best opinion, we oversimplifying issues. I don't mind if it says a ways down in the article that according to whatever magazine/experts that India is an emerging superpower, but the inclusion of that phrase in the context that it's presented in will just not do. AreJay 00:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

True, it shouldn't be on the intro, there are a number of sources present on India as an emerging superpower that can be used though. It is commonly accepted that India is an emerging superpower. Nobleeagle (Talk) 00:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The intro paragraph needs to be a summary of the whole article, and some magazine's terming India as an emerging superpower is not really what is representative of the whole article. --Ragib 00:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Note that "officially the Republic of India" is not fact; fact would be "officially the UNION of India." ImpuMozhi 02:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Let statistics and growth rates do the talking rather than speculating if it is an emerging superpower or not. This "superpower" bit is a quite a POV despite having references. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I know your attitude towards it Nichalp :) I remember you nominated India as an emerging superpower for deletion...I must thank-you though, the AfD forced us to cite sources more effectively. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Blog Mav Rick (talk · contribs) reverted my edit, requesting me to take a look at Emerging superpower. I did, and found the article to be an example of original research. Who decides which country is a superpower or not? Who terms some countries "emerging superpower"? The article you referred has no references (the link is just an equally uncited list from a Harvard Magazine).

Of course, India as an emerging superpower has better references, but still I find it POV to stamp that label at the intro paragraph.

Thanks. --Ragib 23:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no users work on the emerging superpower article, its the three articles within that that have the references. Basically the media decides who is and who isn't an emerging superpower. But still, it shouldn't be in the intro, its in the Politics and History section as far as I know and that is neough. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Irrelevent edits

Vkvora keeps adding a report on a hunger report in the Economy section. Such items need to be kept off the main economy section as it is too vague to merit it's inclusion in the summary of the economy section.

Secondly, India border's the nation-state of the PRC. Mainland China is the incorrect term as we are listing the nation-states, not geographical entities.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 05:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Hunger in the world

Number of undernourished people (million) in 2001-2003, according to the FAO, the following countries had 10 million or more undernourished people:

Country	Number of Undernourished (million)
India	212.0
China	150.0
Bangladesh	43.1
Democratic Republic of Congo	37.0
Pakistan	35.2
Ethiopia	31.5
Tanzania	16.1
Philippines	15.2
Brazil	14.4
Indonesia	13.8
Vietnam	13.8
Thailand	13.4
Nigeria	11.5

vkvora 15:01, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, but it is not relavent here.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 15:01, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

why is this not relevant?- if you're going to boast about India's economy using PPP and discuss it's spending power- surely the number of undernourished is important. If you're going to compare the welath of the US to India, you should compare the poverty. I did a search on the web-page for "poor" "hungry" and "poverty" (shall we try "aids") and got no hits- these are subjects in which India is a true world leader (and newsmaker). Unless you're trying to stroke your egoes by making a tourist brochure, perhaps you should talk at least for a few sentences about the much larger "other" India. Regards, Hari

There's nothing to boast about PPP and nominal values. Let statistics do the speaking for themselves. Hunger has very little to do with Economy. I've not said to exclude it off wikipedia, I've said it is irrelavent and too specific to add in the economy section. This sort of data goes into Demographics of India article.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 16:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Infact that section does not gloat about India's sucesses, instead it presents pure statistics, for the reader to gain inference that it is ranked 122nd in the world by per capita income.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Poverty in India and World

Reduce by half the proportion of people living on less than a dollar a day

Reduce by half the proportion of people who suffer from hunger

http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/#

http://www.millenniumcampaign.org/site/pp.asp?c=grKVL2NLE&b=185518

One third of deaths - some 18 million people a year or 50,000 per day - are due to poverty-related causes. That's 270 million people since 1990, the majority women and children, roughly equal to the population of the US.

Over 1 billion people live on less than $1 a day with nearly half the world's population (2.8 billion) living on less than $2 a day. (UN HDR, 2003)

vkvora 16:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, now you are getting to the closer topic on the economy and people. Why don't you add this fact i.e. <1$ in article?

=Nichalp «Talk»= 17:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Poverty in India is waiting for your edits. Go ahead.

Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

"coglionazzi"

Don't let someone put that word back into the article. Its not English and, according to someone on the Italian wikipedia IRC channel, means something along the lines of 'dickheads' or 'dumbheads'. As such, its almost certainly a form of vandalism. Kevin_b_er 22:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is their no mention of India being one of the oldest?

Their is no mention of India being one of the oldest countries in the world or one of the oldest civilazations in the world. I understand that it gained independance in 1947, but India existed well before 1947, and well before the British came. It was known as Bharat, Hindustan, or Land of the Aryans. It is mentioned in the Vedas and other Indian text books. Even the CIA world factbook website says that India is one of the oldest civalaztions in the world. I dont know how mu ch more evidence you want from me. Are you open minded or does this page belong to you only? ARYAN818 01:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I quote : "India has long played a major role in human history". More specific information can be found on the relevant pages or sections.--Grammatical error 20:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Grammatical error: The above rants should be ignored. =Nichalp «Talk»= 20:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The above rants??? Im not giving any rants my friend...I am giving fact after fact after fact on how India is one of the oldest countries in the world...And all u guys are doing is telling me that im wrong & that im making rants....If India isn't one of the oldest countries in the world, then what country is??? ARYAN818 20:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you referring to India as a culture, or as an independent state? Important distinction to make, one way or the other. Luna Santin 21:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Here is an edit introduced by ARYAN818 (talk · contribs)

'India, officially the Republic of India, is a country in South Asia. It is one of the oldest countries in the world, t

Now, let's see why this sentence is extremely misleading. Here, you are saying that "Republic of India" (the subject of the page), is a very old country. That, technically is not correct. What you may be implying is that the civilization in the region is one of the oldest. The country itself is 59 years old. Under your logic, every country that is part of the Indian subcontinent can claim to be so (there is no reason why we can't write "Pakistan is one of the oldest countries in the world", under your logic). As Luna above wrote, you are confusing the Civilization with the country. *This* article is about the country, not the civilization or the region. Thank you. --Ragib 05:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Going by the repetitive queries, we could have an FAQ section here. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Format Issue

I'm unsure of whether this is a problem for other users, but for me, the sections from 12 onward don't appear as distinct from the table. i.e. they seem to be part of the table format and thereby get extended in their length. Does this seem to occur for anyone else?--Kaushik twin 19:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The problem was caused by the "International ties" template not being closed properly. I've edited the same, and it seems to be normal now. Could somebody check why the interlanguage link to the Gothic wikipedia appears as normal text at the bottom of the page rather than on the sidebar?-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}04:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

got iw link fixed now. Possibly problems with unicode text --Ragib 04:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Second paragraph, second sentence

I think this sentence is bad. "Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism and Jainism all have their origins in India, while Islam and Christianity enjoy a strong cultural heritage."

Why? Because the sentece before that is, "Home to the Indus Valley Civilization, a centre of important trade routes and vast empires, India has long played a major role in human history." Taken together, these sentences say (at least until the final phrase), "India is a really old and important place. For example, major/influential religions like blah, blah, and blah, started here." But what does it mean to say, "while Islam and Christianity enjoy a strong cultural heritage"? I know there are lots of Muslims and Christians in India, but I am pretty sure that India's influence on these religions (especially Christainity) is minimal-- certainly not of the same magnitude as the other religions mentioned in the same sentence.

Therefore, I propose we delete that last phrase from that sentence. Rangek 18:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the intended meaning of the sentence was that, both Islam and Christianity have influenced Indian culture, not the other way around. --Ragib 18:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, then we should make it say that. Right now it is unclear. Rangek 02:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. --Ragib 06:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Just as a sidenote: It is not incorrect to say that India had a strong impact on Christianity. Christianity has existed in India since the time of the disciples, and has developed almost independently. Many traditions, especially those followed by the Nasranis are exclusive to India. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}15:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC)~

But that is my point. The influence of India on Christianity at large is small. I know of no theological or liturgical Christian practice that has direct roots in India. This is a much different situation tnhan that of Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism and Jainism. Rangek 15:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Majority of the original traditions and Christian theological practices that originated in India died with the Portuguese invasion. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Labour Laws applicable in Gujarat??

If anyone knows.. please provide a link...PLEASE..........

A S

India's name when it was a british colony

What was the exact, formal name given to India when it was a British colony? For example, Palestine was "The British Mandate of Palestine". Many thanks. --A Sunshade Lust 03:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

British India, I think -- Lost 13:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Disputed map is used

The maps of India in this article are not consistent. Pakistani administered Kashmir is shown as a part of India. In case of map of India, line of control is shown as boundary. Following explanation is provided at note 4 for the map of India:

“^ The black line is the boundary as recognised by the government of India. The northern region of Kashmir is currently administered by India, Pakistan, and China (and coloured in as such). The delimiting of the three administered regions is not the international boundary but a ceasefire line demarcated in red. The boundary separating India and Pakistan is known as the Line of Control, that separating India and China as the 'Line of Actual Control'. Most of the state of Arunachal Pradesh is still claimed by China.”

However, in case of States and territories of India, Pakistani administered Kashmir is shown as a part of India.

Why this inconsistency exists?

There is pro-Indian bias in case of map used to show “States and territories of India”. — Preceding unsigned comment added by maakhter (talk • contribs)

Your claim doesn't match Image:India-states-numbered.svg, which clearly marks the disputed territories. --Ragib 20:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Poverty reason for India's rank

• http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1822829.cms

Seven of the top 10 happiest countries, according to the first 'World Map of Happiness', are from western democracies, while countries in Asia, known for their strong cultural values, family ties and collective identities surprisingly scored low — China (82), Japan (90) and Thailand (76).

While Denmark's satisfaction with life index was placed at 273.33, India's was at 180. The map, claiming to be the first to illustrate international differences in happiness, placed US at 23, UK at 41 and France at 62.

vkvora 06:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Everybody

Hi everyone, I am new to this site. Can anyone just tell me more about this site

User:Bhagubhai Bhadwani 03:11, 29 July 2006 (IST)