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SPOILER ALERT Interview with Kit Harington

SPOILER ALERT

Since there is some ambiguity about the fate of Jon Snow in the books and the serial, should this be in the article?

In an interview Kit Harington confirmed that his character, Jon Snow, is truly dead.^[1] Lucentcalendar (talk) 14:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Although in the interview at the link you provided the actor does confirm that Jon Snow is dead, the viewers would have no way of knowing this from the ending of the show. I will be bold and remove the phrase "to death" from the picture in the infobox. If another editor chooses to revert this then no problem but please try to justify it here. MrErnieman (talk) 18:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

True, but the scope of these articles is not limited on the information from the episode. Lucentcalendar (talk) 13:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, say that he's dead. Text such as "stab him and leave him to die in the snow" would probably be best because it at least leaves open the idea that he lived, but we are not required to blind ourselves to reliable out-of-universe information.

There was a similar issue a few weeks ago with Gray Worm and Barristan. Many people assumed that they were both dead. All we had to do was wait a week. That's not the case here. Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:53, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add that article somewhere under reception? Don't know if this would go well with it. Rayukk (talk) 12:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The issue of whether Jon Snow is alive or dead has been addressed in more than one reliable secondary source. I think it belongs in the article, but not necessarily under "critical reception." How about we add a new subsection to "reception" and call it "fan reception" or "viewer reception"? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Rayukk (talk) 19:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview

Main Image

I know that the episode has been released now, and also Wikipedia (in the nicest way) doesn't about spoilers, but is the image of Jon Snow lying dead really the most appropriate one? I'm thinking for future fans of the series, either in a year or a decade. Can we please find another photograph to put on? Yes in the plot it will say he has died, but I am thinking for someone who might, and will click on the episode page innocently and see the character dead in the picture right there more obvious than the rest of the text at the top of the page.

Can we replace it with a new one? I know Wikipedia editors do have a kind heart in them. I am not asking to delete spoilers, as I know it has aired and technically no more spoilers, but in a nice gesture for people in the future who will innocently click on this page and see the in-your-face spoiler image?

Please take into consideration. Charlr6 (talk) 10:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I get where you're coming from: We don't hide spoilers but we don't need to shove them in people's faces either. If you have a better image that's free to use, go ahead and insert it. If you don't have a better image that's free to use, then the issue is moot. Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:54, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about an image of Cersei on her walk? Obviously one without nudity. It is quite a strong scene, and even though can also be spoilery it is something that has been pretty much a long time coming, and also obvious with the 'religion'. What you (and others if you are reading) think? Charlr6 (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine to me. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added on. Hope is fine? Charlr6 (talk) 23:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I like it and I think it's better than the Jon Snow pic. I notice it's been reverted. I'll re-revert tomorrow if no further objections are posted on this talk page. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nudity

There has been a lot of discussion about nudity and body doubles:

etc. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview

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