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Template:Syrian Civil War sanctions

Thar Thar base is under the Islamic State control

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Are there any sources claiming it is recaptured by Republic of Iraq's military? If there aren't, I will change its colour to black. --햄방이 (talk) 18:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The dam and the base were recaptured by Security forces 2 days later. https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/592647860790894592 --8fra0 (talk) 16:53, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh very thank you. But I think base is under their control because there are no mentions in that twitter. They only mentioned "Tharthar" and "Nazim ath tharthar dam". Nothing about a base. Your help is very useful. THanks--햄방이 (talk) 12:55, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2015

Please remove black semicircle al-Muthanna Chemical Weapons Facility. The facility was besieged by IS, but the siege was broken by government forces. This source confirms:

https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/604623857731936256 Pbfreespace3 (talk) 16:56, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Stickee (talk) 00:23, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2015

change Fatha (near Baiji) to government control.

source:

http://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iraq-situation-report-may-28-29-2015 Pbfreespace3 (talk) 04:00, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: Now shows mixed control. Stickee (talk) 00:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Baiji Oil Refinery

Islamic State have taken control of 90 percent of Baiji oil refinery after clashes with Iraqi security forces around the refinery continue and nearly 150 Iraqi soldiers and soldiers were surrounded by the militants inside.WAR Media Hanibal911 (talk) 14:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The war media source is from May 4th

Who switched Baiji to Red? The Refinery is still heavily contested and largely destroyed. Also Baiji City is under IS control fully as confirmed multiple times by Long War Journal Tgoll774 (talk) 11:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Source (link, not just a news name) please? Rules are rules, Tgoll774.--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 00:54, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/06/iraqi-security-forces-shiite-militias-make-gains-in-baiji.php Refinery is still contested Tgoll774 (talk) 13:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Argh, edited the wrong icon. Baiji Refinery was the edit for contested, not the Thermal Plant, as LWJ has sufficient evidence to show it as contested and IS is about to release a new video on it. IS still holds between 50 and 80% of the refinery. Though at this point its scrap metal for all the good it will do anyone. Tgoll774 (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Iraqi army freed Baiji

Why hasn't anyone updated the map? source 109.110.115.243 (talk) 11:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

https://twitter.com/cap_fall/status/607610631194308608/photo/1 Pro-IS says otherwise. The last time ISF said Baiji was liberated it was not and I posted repeated video evidence for three weeks it was not. The proof ISF offered is old videos and Nasheeds. Tgoll774 (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proof that Baiji is under ISF control. I see no evidence of it. Tgoll774 (talk) 23:09, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Baiji is still heavily contested per reports by Joel Wing, a renowned Iraq Expert since 2009. http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/ and on this article he provides the Iraqi Sources that show the city heavily contested. Baiji must go contested, ISF press releases are not credible. Tgoll774 (talk) 11:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pro ISF bias

Editors are changing the map without any proper sources there is lot of pro ISF bias going on in this thread , Like south Ramadi no one has ever provided a proper source for making those dots red ?

When isis takes over a city we wait for entire world media to report it before changing the map but it comes to ISF we take anyones world like Elijah magnier who is pro ISf and shia militia which you could clearly see in this latest Beiji Edit which has been only reported by elijaj and Al arabiya , Which clashes are still ongoing and the city is contested {Jack6780 (talk) 20:34, 7 June 2015 (UTC))[reply]

latest baiji edit was made by Hanibal using this source: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/07/middleeast/iraq-forces-baiji/index.html?sr=twcnnbrk06715iraqforcesbaiji749aStoryPhoto it clearly says CNN. 햄방이 keeps making edits without reporting any sources though. Spenk01 (talk) 00:42, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You must know that there are small pockets of resistance. It is your mistake not mine. # --햄방이 (talk) 11:40, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and it turns out to be really immature statement from ISF once again , They made few advances but the city still heavily contested (Jack6780 (talk) 05:29, 8 June 2015 (UTC))[reply]

I deeply agree. Many people in here are instantly believing Republic of 3Iraq's statements without any proof. I usually rely on a neutral sources such as Jewish or Sa3udi or non-governmental sources.--햄방이 (talk) 11:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 햄방이. Here is a source proving ISF captured Thar Thar camp. http://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/iraq%20SITREP%202015-6-05.pdf "ISF repelled an ISIS attack against a 1st Rapid Intervention Division base in Nadhim Thar Thar area, northwest of Fallujah...ISF and the "Popular Mobilization" later advanced toward al-Yabani Bridge, south of Nadhim Thar Thar." Nadhim means camp. ISF controls Thar Thar camp. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 21:24, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your great information. --햄방이 (talk) 10:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Evidence and source showing the outskirts of Ramadi under ISF control. These are major changes with no corroborating sources posted. Tgoll774 (talk) 23:13, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com/ Shows many changes are not justified especially around Ramadi, the map has been blatantly vandalized and needs to be fixed. I don't have the time to do it all. Tgoll774 (talk) 02:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jalawla

According to this source http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/05/the-kurd-shia-war-behind-the-war-on-isis.html?via=desktop&source=twitter Jalawla is under full control of the Peshmerga. Saeed alaee (talk) 09:05, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to this source and several others, there had been deadly clashes between Kurdish & Shiite militias in Jalawla on 12-13 June 2015. Other sources (https://medium.com/war-is-boring/once-an-islamic-state-stronghold-jalawla-is-now-a-ghost-town-b6c861229014) confirm the presence of Shiite militias in Jalawla.--HCPUNXKID 16:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability of Map

Is the following map by https://twitter.com/nrg8000 reliable?

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e5c9/cmbpg9l4uxyv8b0zg.jpg

I need to know if this map can be used to edit in favor of ISF. It shows certain areas near Ramadi as under control of ISF that are not shown as such on our map. I know LightandDark2000 has used it already to edit one town to ISF control, but I need to know if the map is reliable. Is there a way to determine this? Does this user have a bias to any one side? I would think he is pro-ISIS since the areas near Samarra and Muqdadiyah are shown as ISIS-controlled. However, I think the source may have a pro-kurdish bias per this tweet: https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/609738929034493952 Pbfreespace3 (talk) 01:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is Republic of 3iraaq fully controlling its Diyala Governorate?

I know that the republic claimed that its forces elinimated the Islamic State's Province of Diyala in February 2015, but according to some neutral and pro-Islamic State maps, they show there are some pockets of rural control in Diyala by the Islamic State? What's happening in there? In addition, what's happening in Shamaal Baghdaad province(Southern part of Samaara Governorate)? Did Republic of Iraq kicked IS out of Southern part of Samaara province such as Nebai or Dujail?--햄방이 (talk) 04:18, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic State has no real 'control' over either of these regions. Its supporters simply like to say that it does to make ISIS territory seem bigger. Some sleeper cells still remain, but they are not anywhere near powerful enough to be shown on a map. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 00:59, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdish - ISIS Confrontations

Please update the map. There are a lot of clashes between ISIS and the Kurdish forces.

See here:

I changed the Makhmour to clashes; the source you gave for kifri does not say there are clashes and the other towns kazhir and bashik are not on the map (atleast not with this name) also i'm not sure what to do with the clashes in kirkuk, can't simply put kirkuk on contested. Could you also end your posts with 4 times ~ this way we can see who made the post and when it was made so it's easier to manage. Cheers. Spenk01 (talk) 02:30, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'll do that next time. Just forgot it. :) Bashik is Bashiqa on the map. It's about north-east of Mosul. Makhmour is again just yellow. But just this morning the allied airforce attacked ISIS there. Peshmerga and ISIS are fighting around the city. Thanks! :)--Asenger (talk) 16:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like because the article was talking about 'the bases around makhmour' (the syrian civil war and iraqi civil war maps are being taken over by heavily biased kurds who will bite you if you make a mistake),i took a better look at the sources and the source with Bashik is talking about artillery which are not clashes.And According to the kazhir source it was a convoy of vehicles which was destroyed which also does not say clashes. Rudaw also isn't clear about where these clashes are they are rather talking about 'bases' around these fronts. I'm sorry that's all i could do for you Spenk01 (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No need for being sorry. Thank you for your help! It's fine how it is.--Asenger (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Color of Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon

Syrian Civil War and regional spillover map

A related discussion is currently ongoing concerning the color of Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon. It is argued whether the Lebanese government should be blue and Hezbollah red (like Syrian Ba'athist regime and its allies), or alternatively that Hezbollah should be blue but Lebanese Government as red (arguing that in each country the legitimate government is colored as red on the map). The problem of course arises at the combined regional map in case Lebanese government is colored red - making the Lebanese government and Syrian government forces the same color, while making Hezbollah - a staunch ally of Baathist Syria, into blue; also Hezbollah-controlled areas in Syria and Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon show in different colors (Syria in red together with the Assad forces, but in Lebanon blue). Obviously it creates a complete incoherence with the combined regional war interactive map Template:Syrian, Iraqi and Lebanon Conflicts detailed map, and the regional spillover map which is based on it (right). Please discuss it at Lebanese Insurgency detailed map page.GreyShark (dibra) 18:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sources needed

Hey 햄방이, could you elaborate/provide sources on your 4 recent edits - the source you provided does not support, or even mention, any of the edits you made.. Boredwhytekid (talk) 16:30, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I changed Habbaniya, Khalidiya, Shihabi into dots showing contested situation and I added Ṣafrah because those are mentioned in here.link --햄방이 (talk) 16:42, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake. I used an incorrect link. Sorry to bother you, and thank you. Boredwhytekid (talk) 16:53, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The town of Anah and villages of al rayhanna and al sagra

The town of Anah has been under IS control since June 2014 and it still is today.

Yeah this map had a lot of pro-ISF changes with no reliable sources justifying it. Tgoll774 (talk) 01:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This source reports those towns under ISF control: https://twitter.com/LandonShroder/status/608822471140192256
Firstly, Anah is marked under ISIS, so i dobt understamd why you are complaining. Also, if you don't like the map, why not provide a source to show these towns are under ISIS control? It seems like you want to edit in favor of ISIS and are biased, seeing as you NEVER provide ANY reasons or sources for your edits. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 17:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:LightandDark2000

User:LightandDark2000, please engage on the discussion page before making edits. Arbitrarily making mass edits is not how Wikipedia works; it is a joint venture. You're recent edits on this module fly in the face of the elementary rules of editing. This edit cited a source that doesn't even mention the town you edited. This edit you cited an Iranian source and a source that is just reiterating the central goverment's claims to edit an ISF advance (we don't use pro-X sources for pro-X edits/advances, for any side). This edit you just cited an amateur map and some twitter account. Please self-revert the above, as none of them conform to the rules governing usable sources. I refer you to this discussion, where the community tried to engage with you, and to this message from the modules' creator.Boredwhytekid (talk) 13:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stharkov, NightShadeAEB, DuckZz, Rhocagil, Pbfreespace3, Tradedia, anyone else who might care.. Boredwhytekid (talk) 13:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Boredwhytekid it's is only his POV pushing just like the edits he makes on the syrian civil war template,He changed all places and neighborhoods of Ramadi,and it looks more likely like an offensive which no one reliable source mention it.PapaDock547 (talk) 19:56, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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