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Archive created by Bilorv at 17:07, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Archive updated by Bilorv at: 09:07, 29 May 2015 (UTC); 15:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC); 14:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC); 12:34, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Evans Quinn

Hi Bilorv. Thanks for reviewing my Evans Quinn article. You've placed a POV tag on the page but not noted on the talk page what the dispute is. Could you please elaborate (here, there, my talk page, wherever!) and I'll try and address the problem. Regards danno_uk 21:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, I've not got a clue. I remember looking at the page but certainly don't remember making any changes - much less placing a POV tag on a perfectly neutral article. I was using Special:NewPagesFeed for the first time so it's possible I was testing/looking at something and misclicked or meant to click "cancel" but didn't. I've removed the tag. Sorry for any confusion. Bilorv (talk) 22:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
No worries, I'm sure many are the times that I've been patrolling Recent Changes, hit the wrong button on Twinkle and warned people about all sorts of infractions that they're clearly not guilty of! Thanks for the prompt response, much appreciated. danno_uk 22:43, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Overlinking

Your plot synopses are generally good, but you're linking too many words unnecessarily. For example, common English words don't need to linked. Cat, dog, boat, food: we all know what these words mean. Existentialism, iconoclasm, dichotomy, superconductor: these are rather rare or complex words that might need to be linked. It's not a big deal, but a large number of linked words can distract readers and leave them confused as to what the key concepts are. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:05, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay, right. These are some links from the plot synopsis I wrote for "The Hawking Excitation".

Email, Engineer, Higgs boson particle, Halloween, Card tricks, Belt buckles, Uniform fetishism (linked from "French maid costume"), Shopping

The words "email" and "engineer" might be a bit too much, but you also removed links from "card tricks", "belt buckles", "uniform fetishism". You also left some links there, like "Halloween" and "shopping". I have briefly looked at WP:OVERLINK before, but my problem is where to draw the line. I would have thought that if "belt buckles" was removed, "shopping" and "Halloween" would have been too. Does "Higgs boson particle" deserve a link any more than "card tricks" does, especially if neither is essential to understanding the plot? I agree that I put too many links in there, but am not quite sure why some specific examples should/shouldn't be included. Bilorv (talk) 09:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Card tricks and belt buckles are too common. I left shopping? That was an error on my part, then. Thanks for spotting that. Halloween could be useful for non-American readers, who might not understand the American holiday. I'm pretty sure that card tricks exist in the whole world, however. Complex physics concepts certainly should be linked, and, if understanding is necessary, they should also be briefly explained. Here, it's not terribly important what it is, because it's a stand-in for "complicated scientific theory", and it could have been any complex-sounding theory. Descriptions of such MacGuffins would be undue. I agree that it's confusing at first, and it's very tempting to link indiscriminately. You can get a lot of practice and help from Tony1's tutorials on his user page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:34, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Heroes of Olympus

Sorry, I was on my phone so it is incredibly hard to mention things. I removed it due to a lack of sources which you added in when you reinserted the section, so thanks and sorry for not putting an explanation on the page itself--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 07:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Bilorv (talk) 07:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

List of The Big Bang Theory characters

Thanks for your edit at List of The Big Bang Theory characters. I fear we have a fan trying to insert herself into the article. She left a link to a facebook page at Talk:The Big Bang Theory a few days ago,[2] and the reply that she left on her talk page was rather ... illuminating.[3] --AussieLegend (✉) 18:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

The Irish Mother

Her surname is "McConnell" an Irish surname, so therefore the character is of Irish descent. many fictional characters with Irish names are placed in the category:Fictional American people of Irish descent, sometimes just based on the names, it doesn't have to be referenced on the show, but the Aldrin character is in the category:Fictional American people of Swedish descent so go tell the person who put them in the category off, instead of me, I'm only helping people understand the portrayals of fictional Irish Americans in television. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.12.58 (talk) 15:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

@90.202.12.58: It sounds like original research to me. I would think that it should have to be referenced on the show; do you have any policies or links which say you can judge their descent by their name alone? BTW, there's no need to get defensive - I merely didn't understand your reasoning. Also, you made the edit, so if I was trying to "tell [anyone] off", it would be you, rather than "the person who put them in the category" you seem to be trying to shift blame to. Bilorv (Talk)(Contribs) 15:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

MOS:LEAD

Hi, Do you think we have a Talk page consensus on MOS:LEAD to add in new wording to the policy page? I've never made a change to a policy page, and I don't want to face administrative sanctions for making the change. Thanks!OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 21:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

A page you started (Shouldn't You Be in School?) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Shouldn't You Be in School?, Bilorv!

Wikipedia editor KTo288 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Needs reliable third party references, rather than just the publishers own website.

To reply, leave a comment on KTo288's talk page.

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Organic acid

"The lead of an article should be as concise as possible and only contain information repeated in more detail later in the article"

agree, but why didn't you fix the original article?209.86.76.253 (talk) 09:17, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I probably should have fixed the article myself. I was using an automated program and didn't think to move the information to its own subsection. — Bilorv (Talk)(Contribs) 16:25, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for The Convention Conundrum

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:21, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

The Game...

...is still watching you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.120.205 (talk) 10:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi, Adam. I want to thank you for all of the hard work you put into reviewing Caldas da Rainha. Your suggestions were extremely helpful in improving the article. I am grateful for your contributions. —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 12:49, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!!!

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Cheers! "We could read for-EVER; reading round the wiki!" (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Congrats on being a nerd

Matt-cant-fail (talk) 19:14, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Poetry

I am sorry if my poetry has offended you, it was meant as a compliment. I hope this not cause any tension between us. Have a good day and please keep reviewing articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt-cant-fail (talk • contribs) 17:06, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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Regarding your contributions to my talk page

"... Ms Widdecombe ... will learn how a Victorian coaching inn was run, by getting their hands dirty. / There are horses to be groomed, coaches cleaned, ... chamber pots [jordans] emptied and landlord's scams to be learned." [1]

"...the sleeping young man with the jordan under the bed..."

Why, they will allow us ne'er a jordan, / and then we leak in your chimney; / and your chamber-lie breeds fleas like a loach.​

Shakespeare: Henry IV, Pt. I, II, i.

Jooorrrrdddaaannnnnnn

Bävrilina

Hello Bilorv, so delightful to speak to you again regarding your edits to my talk page.

Before I start, I would like to say that I appreciate the WikiLove (no homo – well, maybe 3–4 homo, 5 on a good day). However, in your signing off on my talk page, you had the phrase "jordan smells" in superscript, with a wikilink to the email address associated with your Wikipedia account.


— Bilorv(talk)(c)(jordan smells) 2k15 (UTC)

Although I am questioning as to why this phrase leads to your email (no matter how saucy it may be), I thought I should write to you a quick few love letters criticisms of your erotic contributions to my talk page.

Firstly, as "jordan" is a well-known archaic term for a chamber pot ([4]), one should not be suprised that they smell, considering the amount of faecal matter and urine that they shall absorb over their lifetime. However, I have three objections to this being placed on my user page:

  1. Grammar – "jordan smells" does not make grammatical sense. The correct phrase should be "jordans smell", unless you are discussing a unique odour/aroma of jordans known as a "jordan smell" in its plural form; this should, in my opinion, be replaced with the phrase "the smell of jordans", in order to prevent any ambiguity regarding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Katie Price or the Norwegian toothbrush suppliers;
  2. WP:NPOV – adding the fact that "jordans smell" on my talk page is undue weight, as the rest of the talk page (as of now) does not mention chamber pots, or any lavatorial devices;
  3. WP:COMMONNAME – this guideline states that Ambiguous or inaccurate names for the article subject ... are often avoided. As stated before, a "jordan" may be somewhat ambiguous to the less learned reader.

However, I shall always follow your advice in "engaging in more greight bansevener" on Wikipedia. – Zumoarirodoka (talk) 15:17, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

merci beaucoup, mon petit chou

Thank you Bilorv, for your reply on my userpage. I will keep your message in mind when editing Wikipedia, and I enjoyed your ironic Wikilinking much more than I should have. However, I would just like to clarify the following:

  1. I would have formatted the quote boxes on the right, but unfortunately that would require Ann Widdecombe to be on the left for once; an irony that not even I could stand for.[note 1] And I know you're disappointed in me – I'm disappointed in myself for that faux pas, I must admit;
  2. I promise to you that from now on, I shall never mention Katie Price again;
  3. I had always thought you were an unofficial member of the Really Reformed Church of Wikipedia, but I guess I'm wrong. I am also a 6 (or thereabouts) on the Dawkins scale, so there. Stick that in your nonexistent pipe (see: Ceci n'est pas une pipe), and smoke it;[note 2]
  4. I shall refrain from creating misleading or patronising Wikilinks and comply with all the rules that you have notified me of;
  5. I shall always use my [references] correctly;[note 3]
  6. I reject that notion of "dated expressions". All of my expressions are contemporary, as to be expected from the youth of today;
  7. I shall not put any more of your quotes in green, without asking for your consent first, or that of the Green Party of England and Wales.
  1. ^ I'm usually seated when using Wikipedia, anyway.
  2. ^ Although it's best not to get the Dawkins scale and the Kinsey scale mixed up – been there, done that one!
  3. ^ Ironically, you placed punctuation after your {{dummy ref}} template! Oh, the hilarity! What a n00b!

GA Cup Barnstar

The Good Article Barnstar for the GA Cup
You made it to Round 3! Thank-you for being part of the success for the first GA Cup! We hope to see you next year! --Dom497 (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Turns out that as well as interlanguage links, Wikipedia has in fact a sizeable list (with additional details) of interwiki links as well, including Uncyclopedia and external non-wiki sites such as Google's definition service and even Urban Dictionary as interwiki links ('interwiki links' includes external sites, not just wikis). Not sure as to how much help the last one will ever be on Wikipedia, but still...

On another note, did you know that gnomes are the physics illuminality? – Jordan Hooper (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

QI article

Hi I saw your post about the QI article needing improvement, I certainly agree much improvement is needed. Some of the sections such as Buzzers would be hard to reference unless we referenced it to the show itself of course I would not recommend this as its not easy to check this form of referencing. I will try to do more tomorrow in addition if you have any feedback for me feel free to message me as I am a bit rusty at Wikipedia. Thanks Kelvin 101 (talk) 01:46, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you too

Just want to thank you in return for your note about "Slap Bet". As I can sometimes find hesitation even for small edits and as I didn't got to talk to too many other editors, such note is truly a motivation lifter. אומנות (talk) 14:45, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Game (mind game)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Boat Race review

The Running Man Barnstar
Hey Bilorv, just a quick barnstar to say thanks for the review of one of Boat Race articles you conducted over the past year. As of this morning, I completed my (initial) goal of ensuing that every Boat Race had, not only its own article, but one that was either of GA or FA status: we now have 158 GAs and 3 FAs that we can all be proud of! It doesn't stop here, for me at least, I'm going to keep up with improving the quality of the GAs and look for more FA opportunities. Plus, there's the small matter of 70 Women's Boat Race articles to get up and running! But thanks again, I couldn't have done it without your help. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Why did you remove my edit?

Why did you remove my edit?
Why did you remove my edit regarding the green party when it was only in response to their vandalism on the UKIP page? It needs to work both ways so i request you delete the edits made on the UKIP wiki page Piskovski (talk) 13:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:The Hawking Excitation.jpg

Thank you for uploading File:The Hawking Excitation.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I have also nominated File:The Werewolf Transformation.jpg for similar reasons. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
I understand the whole "picture paints a thousand words" idea, but that seems to apply to just about any non-free image. If publicity photographs or posters had specifically been released for the episode, this would be a slightly different issue; alternatively, if something in the episode would be particularly valuable to show (a particular art style, or some highly controversial imagery, or something) then a screenshot might be a good addition, but, even if that was the case, the infobox may not be the best place for them. I do think it's a mistake to believe that we can "automatically" use screenshots of episodes in the same way we can "automatically" use album covers, or logos, or film posters. A recent discussion which reaffirmed that consensus can be found here. Josh Milburn (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
@J Milburn: I don't know if this counts as a "press release" or "publicity photo" or whatever, but the image File:The Hawking Excitation.jpg was released shortly before the episode in an article by The Hollywood Reporter ([5]), so it's not just an arbitrary screenshot from a random scene in the episode. Hawking's appearance is commented on far more in the Production and Reviews sections of The Hawking Excitation than any other scene, so I would argue that the phrase "for identification and critical commentary on the ... program and its contents" in the license template does describe how the image is used. I could easily move the image out of the infobox if you think it would be more relevant in the Plot/Production/Reviews section of the article. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 11:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Agreed- it's no random screenshot, but I don't know if this is a publicity photo (or, and this would definitely be a no-no as per NFCC#2, a photo belonging to the Reporter). On a more general note, you're still talking about how important the fact that Hawking appeared in the episode is, rather than how that screenshot looks. The image is basically exactly what you'd expect- it's Parsons as Cooper next to Hawkings. Hardly the kind of thing that readers would not be able to comprehend without the image! Josh Milburn (talk) 16:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hey Bilorv, I would like to send this Barnstar to thank your many good contributions and constant dedication on Wikipedia. You have proven strong, consistent and constructive edits on Wikipedia. With this I would like to give you this Barnstar to thank you for your good work.

Thank You 

-- JohnGormleyJG (✉)  18:14, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


Ninja Warrior Uk

Please do not delete whole sections of articles, we don't consider that good etiquette. ? Pablothepenguin (talk) 19:53, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

@Pablothepenguin: Why not? The content removed were excessive lists of trivial information. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Another user (User:Drmies) clearly agreed with me and I've never heard before any notion that you have to notify the talk page before boldly removing content. I don't want to be rude or descend to ad hominem attacks, but I think Drmies and I are more qualified than you to talk about how etiquette works on Wikipedia. Nevertheless, I've started a section on the talk page—please respond there rather than reverting me again. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 20:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

AfD

Hi Bilorv. At Wikipedia discussions, it's not a question of teams, or winning or losing - Wiipedia is not a ball park and editing is not a game. On meta discussions such as AfD it's a question of knowing your policies and guidelines, interpreting them as accurately as possible and then making comments backed up by them. Most of us admins are very good at upholding Wikipedia policies - a few, just a few, may be wonky or vague, but we do our best even if we don't really like them. Like a traffic cop who doesn't really see any sense in the blanket 50 mph speed limit on long straight oopen roads but has to hand out tickets for speeding ;) Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Yeah, I probably shouldn't have written that — it was intended as a sort of joke. It just felt a bit like I was going along with what I'd been told to do / just copying everyone else's behaviour without any thought of my own. That was the gist of what I was trying to say/imply: I did think through things for myself and did end up agreeing with everyone else, and my change in vote wasn't an attempt to switch over to the outcome that looked like it was going to happen. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 10:46, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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