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June 2015

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Calibrador (talk) 13:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Calibrador (talk) 14:09, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks, such as your addition to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring can easily be misinterpreted. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. Thank you. TL22 (talk) 15:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

exactly what part was "mis interpreted".. I would like to know as the other user keeps calling me different names nad has now started anotehr thread on me claiming to be the victim when its obvious who the vandal here is....--Stemoc 15:33, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well I just randomly appeared as an uninvolved editor. I realized you misinterpreted an edit as vandalism (in this case a change of images). Please link me the discussion where the name-calling started. --TL22 (talk) 15:36, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I can help you out, ToonLucas22, the name-calling is all one sided, and you're on their talk page currently. Calibrador (talk) 15:51, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at United States presidential election, 2016. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  Bbb23 (talk) 16:35, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23:, Maybe you should read this thread because you have most definitely blocked the wrong user and I'm in Fiji and its nearly 5am here and in the last 5 hours, I have only made 2 edits to that page you linked above...--Stemoc 16:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Stemoc, I blocked you at 16:34 UTC. You last reverted at the article at 14:56 UTC. As for the discussion at ANI, it wouldn't alter my decision. Let's assume for the sake of argument that the other editor is disruptive as a result of his COI, that doesn't entitle you to edit-war with him over it. It's not one of the exemptions listed at WP:3RRNO, which are rarely successfully invoked anyway. As an aside, your comments at ANI and at AN3 would be more credible if they weren't so inflammatory and over-the-top. That's just my reaction as an administrator, but I'm not here to decide the COI issue.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:39, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Bbb23:, Well I tried multiple times to make a direct and proper approach but as you can see from the thread, the user kept disrupting and deflecting with lies after lies and even when i countered him with the truth, he would keep denying it, I even added his previous name to the title of the thread on 3RR as other users visiting the thread were confused as to how exactly this was self promotion when the user adding the images was named "Calibrador" and the images being forced added belonged to a "Gage Skidmore", it already confused one user above but he kept removing it trying to hide his previous identity making it seem like I was Hounding him when it was clearly obvious as i mentioned below that this user is a single purpose account trying to gain publicity by "enforcing" his images into articles, just google his name and you will find the truth...Wikipedia is a "free" and informative site, its not a .com, but a .org ..but when users start using it for their own "financial" gain...how exactly does it make me the bad guy here? This is the first time in my nearly 9 year history I got blocked on enwiki and for the wrong reason and for that I have now completely lost faith in this site.--Stemoc 04:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Stemoc, everything you say indicates to me that this issue has become a bit of an obsession, which is unfortunate for any editor let alone an admin. Still, that's just my own view, and it's not worth debating. As for your "lost faith", that makes no sense. Why lose faith in the entire en-wiki because of the action of one administrator? Wouldn't it make more sense to assume that I'm not worthy of respect? I'm going to assume that you wouldn't have become an admin at wikimedia if you weren't a valuable contributor, which should mean that you add value when you contribute to any wikimedia project, not just the foundation itself. I'd hate to think you lost faith in one of the projects - and a big one at that - over one incident. Anyway, maybe you'll see things differently later.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:11, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Bbb23; Not an obsession, I just find it odd that this user has been doing this for "years" now and yet has never been warned or blocked before..does he have a "get out of jail" free card?. My actual work on wikimedia entails reverting and blocking 'cross-wiki' vandals and spambots but its always this wiki which disappoints me where we allow the bad to thrive and we block the good, lol not me..I'm far from 'good' ...but to be blocked for trying to prevent someone violating our policies is where one must draw the line. I just don't see what I did wrong, All I did was find a problem and trying to solve the problem but was not able too which was made worse by the user intentionally getting their name changed to avoid being implicated for such. I know i definitely didn't violate the 3RR and even if we read the wiki on UTC, reverting someone that keeps adding images to self promote is not seen as 3RR but "vandalism revert". I always give reasons for my revert on "edit summaries" ..it has been proven in more than one occasion that talking to the user is futile cause he never replies to questions posed at him regarding this even it it was by an admin...--Stemoc 05:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Bbb23: I think you should reconsider your decision, but in terms of a block itself... as a Meta administrator, and a GS (on small wikis), Stemoc should know and understand. Tropicalkitty (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Stemoc, you can not blindly revert Calibrador's edits because you believe they have a COI. Continuing to do so will no doubt result in a longer block. Liz Read! Talk! 19:52, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stemoc, I recommend you read WP:Don't cry COI. You started attacking and edit warring over an user just because they had a COI and that's disruptive behavior. --TL22 (talk) 22:21, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: /@ToonLucas22: I believe?,no I knew , as I said, just go through the users edits, he has been doong this for years and check out his contribution on commons wikipedia under the name Gage. He even tried to change an image's name to his trademark byline of "by Gage Skidmore" on commons which I declined and even started creating doubles (making crops of the SAME IMAGE) to replace here on enwikipedia because he wanted all the images on enwiki to carry his name in the image title, don't believe me?, look up his contribution..when i realised what he was doing, I had to monitor his edits as a Commons licence reviewer..this was discussed on the previous WP:ANI/I incident he filed on me linked on a thread above in May. I recommend you read all of those and screen his edits both here and on commons and then you would under that Gage is a single purpose users and his aim is to self promote his interests. So i get blocked because admins refused to take action on him the last time he was reported on WP:ANI...pathetic. --Stemoc 04:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a reason to attack and edit war over a COI editor though. That's what got you blocked. You may benefit from WP:KETTLE. --TL22 (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You should look at a previous case involving him last month, he re-offended and instead of him being indef blocked, i was..saying that I'm just as bad as him is an insinuation....If admins refuse to do their job, editors have to step up...--Stemoc 00:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I don't know how to reply to a message, I hope this reaches you somehow. I am NOT an agent, I run the official website for Louis Ferreira. Since he's an actor, his photo should be of him practicing his craft. The page is about his acting career. The photo that's on there is in fact a candid taken by Sean Koo who works for YVR Shoots (Sean has been cropped out of the original photo which can be found on this webpage: http://yvrshoots.com/2013/09/your-shoot-motives-kristin-lehman-louis-ferreira-start-season-2.html#more-21360 and on Sean Koo's Instagram Page: https://instagram.com/scoobykoo/). As I have said before I have started the process of obtaining permission to use a headshot of Mr Ferreira while acting. I expect to receive permission to upload the photo within a few days at the most - I understand it currently takes about 11 days for Wikimedia approval. Once I have this permission is there any reason why you would object to an official headshot sanctioned by the copyright holder?Bczogalla (talk) 03:10, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Bczogalla[reply]

Louis Ferreira

Hello, I'd like to discuss the photo on Louis Ferreira's Wikipedia Page. Of course I understand that this is not a personal resume page, but is it not reasonable to make sure everybody - including the person the page is about - agrees on the content? We are currently working on obtaining the copyrights to an official MOTIVE photograph which would be far more appropriate for a working actor that a candid photo. Again, this is not a question of personal preference but to reflect the professional look of the page. Louis Ferreira is a professional actor, so his photo should be of him doing what this page is about: acting. Please let me know what your thoughts are.Bczogalla (talk) 02:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Bczogalla[reply]

@Bczogalla:, No, Wikipedia is based on facts and related and confirmed sources so if Louis does something wrong and it makes the news, it will be added to his article and anyone that tries to remove it can and will be blocked so this is why people/celebs should not be using wikipedia as a resume service. We only accept "free images" and we prefer images in the infobox to be of a headshot, not some random long range picture of him on the set, those images belong somewhere within the article. You can work on getting him an official image and when and if you do, you should take it to commons:Commons:OTRS for verification of the image as we get 100's of cases of people claiming to be the celeb in question or their agent/publicist 'forcefully' and 'deceitfully' trying to get their images changed to copyrighted images ...I doubt the current pic is a candid photo, infact most of our best images were taken by fans who freely released those images for use on wikipedia...btw, if you are his agent/rep or if you are getting paid to edit his page, you should probably mention that on your userpage.....Wikipedia has a strong policy against those who don't do that..--Stemoc 02:55, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I don't know how to reply to a message, I hope this reaches you somehow. I am NOT an agent, I run the official website for Louis Ferreira. Since he's an actor, his photo should be of him practicing his craft. The page is about his acting career. The photo that's on there is in fact a candid taken by Sean Koo who works for YVR Shoots (Sean has been cropped out of the original photo which can be found on this webpage: http://yvrshoots.com/2013/09/your-shoot-motives-kristin-lehman-louis-ferreira-start-season-2.html#more-21360 and on Sean Koo's Instagram Page: https://instagram.com/scoobykoo/). As I have said before I have started the process of obtaining permission to use a headshot of Mr Ferreira while acting. I expect to receive permission to upload the photo within a few days at the most - I understand it currently takes about 11 days for Wikimedia approval. Once I have this permission is there any reason why you would object to an official headshot sanctioned by the copyright holder?Bczogalla (talk) 03:13, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Bczogalla[reply]

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