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Hasty reversion to Jack Evans (D.C. politician)

Hi. Could you please explain your cursory deletion of these important updates?

Before my edits, it did not reflect the fact that he has left his position at Squire Patton Boggs:

Old: As of June 2013, Evans received $190,000 in yearly compensation from Squire Patton Boggs in addition to his $125,000 council salary. http://dcist.com/2013/06/jack_evans_launches_2014_mayoral_ca.php During his time on the D.C. Council, Evans also worked as an insurance executive for Central Benefits Mutual Insurance Co., a position that paid $50,000 a year.
New: As of June 2013, Evans received $190,000 in yearly compensation from Squire Patton Boggs in addition to his $125,000 council salary, though the position ended when the firm merged in 2015. http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2015/06/01/jack-evans-full-time-councilmember/
He began practicing law in Washington, D.C. at the Securities and Exchange Commission in the Division of Enforcement and was an of counsel attorney at the Squire Patton Boggs law firm.[1][2]

Before, it did not reflect that his relationship with his wife has ended.

Old: Over the next seven years, Evans raised his triplets[3] and on September 18, 2010, he married Michele Price, a former staffer of late Wyoming Republican Senator Malcolm Wallop.[4]
New: Over the next seven years, Evans raised his triplets[3] and on September 18, 2010, he married Michele Price, a former staffer of late Wyoming Republican Senator Malcolm Wallop.[4] The couple's split was reported in February 2015. [5]

Before, it did not reflect any of his history with parking violations and abuse

Evans has been noted for his tendency to park illegally and questioned for potential abuse of parking privileges. [6] [7] [8] His tickets were dismissed because he claimed he was on official business. [9]

This content is well-sourced and relevant. Would you please self-revert, or at a minimum, provide a better justification than "this is silly stuff, gossipy and hyper local". I do not think that characterization is appropriate for articles in the Washington Post, Fox News, and CBS. Thanks. Bangabandhu (talk) 19:21, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Refs:

  1. ^ "Professionals: Jack Evans, Of Counsel". Patton Boggs LLP. Retrieved April 6, 2008.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference fulltime was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ a b Jaffe, Harry (July 1, 2008). "And Daddy Makes Four: Jack Evans and His Triplets". The Washingtonian.
  4. ^ a b "Jack & Michele Evans Modern Family". The Georgetowner. May 12, 2012.
  5. ^ "D.C. Councilman Jack Evans and his wife have split". The Washington Post. February 19, 2015.
  6. ^ Sommer, Will (November 14, 2014). "Jack Evans: Sorry for Parking Illegally!". Washington City Paper. Retrieved October 27, 2013.
  7. ^ "Does Jack Evans Abuse his Parking Privileges". The Georgetowner. March 29, 2009. Retrieved October 27, 2013.
  8. ^ "Councilmember caught again and again in no parking zones". WUSA9. February 4, 2015. Retrieved June 1, 2015.
  9. ^ Miller, Emily (August 8, 2014). "Jack Evans: Sorry for Parking Illegally!". FOX 5 Investigates: DC Councilmember Jack Evans' unpaid parking tickets get dismissed. Retrieved October 27, 2014.


It is well sourced, perhaps, but barely relevant, except as snark. I agree that if he no longer has his job at Patton, that should be noted. But the salary - now his former salary (and a private one to boot, not even taxpayer funded) isn't much relevant to anything. He doesn't even earn it any more. Second. The fact that he and his wife appear to be no longer living together - not divorced, just "split" - is relevant to - what? It's trivial, personal, not-really-anyone's-business information. It's gossip, even if the Post did devote three whole sentences to it back in February. If / when they're divorced, then we can cap this section with, "... and the couple has since divorced". And finally - parking tickets. I think the burden is on you to explain why parking tickets - sourced or not - rise to such a level of importance that they need to be included in an encyclopedia article. (I note too that they were all dismissed.) We've had this discussion many times before - just because something is sourced, doesn't mean it's appropriate for inclusion. I stand by my assessment that this material (other than his job change) is trivial, gossipy and hyperlocal. JohnInDC (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I revised it to reflect his (un)employment with the law firm, and left in the salary information since the balance of the paragraph seems to focus so much on his salaries as it is. The current state of his relationship with his spouse and his minor - and officially forgiven - scofflaw tendencies can stay out. JohnInDC (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Your point about his relationship status is reasonable; even though it has been published in the Washington Post, it doesn't say he's been divorced. Though I don't understand your deletion of the parking tickets text and references. I don't think its up to us to decide whether or not parking tickets are notable. If its generating such an abundance of media attention, clearly it is of public interest. It is uncertain exactly how the tickets were handled - if you read the coverage, you'll see the conflicting explanations between Evans and the DMV about their dismissal. More importantly, Other DC Councilmembers have this topic included in their entries. I don't know how to appropriately wordsmith this, but there's no doubt it deserves inclusion. Bangabandhu (talk) 05:18, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It is precisely our job to decide what, of all sourced material in the world there is about a subject, to include or not to include. We are "editors", not "aggregators". Evans parks illegally. Let's just postulate that. He parks illegally. This is trivial by any definition, even if local outlets pick up the thread from time to time. Conversely, if we're going to add "parking issues" to the article on Evans, shouldn't we make sure that all the council members' parking transgressions are reported here? See http://dcist.com/2015/03/dc_politicians_worst_parking_jobs_r.php ; http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2014/09/18/the-d-c-councils-parking-scofflaws-now-on-instagram/ ; http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26228273/dmv-dismisses-all-of-dc-councilmember-yvette-alexanders-unpaid-parking-tickets . This is all just silliness. (Incidentally, I'm going to move this entire thing to the article Talk page, where others may see the discussion and weigh in.) JohnInDC (talk) 14:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Care to handle the AIV while I keep cleaning up after this person? —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 20:46, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. JohnInDC (talk) 20:50, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Much obliged. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 20:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wisconsin Legislators

I look at the Wisconsin Legislators after John Dunn and there was no problems with the citations. Packerfansam would use the same Wisconsin Blue Book citation and started articles using the same source. The last four articles you mentioned to Packerfamsam that had incorrect references were the only articles that had incorrect references. I am mystified about Packerfansam removing political affliations from the Wisconsin Legislators articles and I did asked Packerfansam why this was happening. Packerfansam also mention some health issues in the user page. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 16:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking care of that. I took a quick stab at one of them and failed completely. I agree that Packersfanam is hard to figure at this point - he really seems to have gone off the rails (though I can't say I am that familiar with his earlier editing). The combination of ineptitude and political & religious bias may do him in, I'm afraid. JohnInDC (talk) 17:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wisconsin Legislators

Hi-I checked the Wisconsin Legislators articles and the references from the Wisconsin Blue Book are correct. You need to look what Wisconsin county in the article the legislator came from and then scrolled to that county in the citation and the legislator would be there. Packerfansam used the same Wisconsin Blue Book citations for Wisconsin Legislators who were in office during a certain year. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 21:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What I could do is add the page number to the citation of the Wisconsin Blue Book being used-that would be easier for everyone. Packerfansam should had added the page numbers to the citation-Many thanks-RFD (talk) 21:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Packerfansam

Thought you might be interested in this edit. 32.218.36.31 (talk) 14:17, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Missed that. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 15:32, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And another one: [1] 32.218.36.31 (talk) 16:06, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This might interest you. 32.218.41.143 (talk) 05:53, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Platsis Symposium

Okay, so you didn't like the edit and you deleted it because it belongs somewhere else. So, do you have any suggestions? What about a "See Also" category that the Platsis symposium was once a program at UofM? Is that possible?WHEELER (talk) 23:24, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose - though it still strikes me as a pretty minor event, being linked not because it's important to a fuller understanding of the university but rather instead just to cure the orphan problem. I also think it'd look pretty lonely there by itself. But I do agree that that's a better place for it - take a look at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#See_also_section and see what you might be able to do with it. Thanks - JohnInDC (talk) 00:34, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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