Talk:Jehovah's Witnesses' handling of child sexual abuse

'When required by law'

The article previously said:

elders are directed to report abuse to authorities when there is evidence of abuse, and when required to by law.

The statement incorrectly implied that JW elders report abuse to authorities where there is evidence, and (also) when required to by law. However, the actual policy is to report to authorities (only) where required by law, if there is evidence of abuse. I initially re-worded the misleading statement (as indicated by my edit summary). However, I subsequently deleted it altogether, because it is restated in the sentence that immediately followed.--Jeffro77 (talk) 01:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Ratio for sex abuse cases

I reverted Jeffro77's revert, as it is obvious it is about ratio. The quote from the source states: "Organisasjonen tar sterk avstand fra overgrep, og det er ikke dokumentert at det forekommer flere overgrep hos Jehovas vitner enn andre steder i samfunnet" (Translated: Jehovah's Witnesses strongly denounce sexual abuse, and there are no evidence that it occurs more abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses than elsewhere in society.) It is a pointless statement unless it is about ratio. Anyway, there are nothing in the source supporting a statement as "is similar to that in general society", as suggested from Jeffro77. "No more documented cases" support "equal or less", without clarifying where on a scale from zero to equal. What about looking into if there are other independent, American or Australian, studies mentioning an excact ratio? Grrahnbahr (talk) 12:45, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

The preachy statement about 'denouncing abuse' regarding something that most people would obviously 'denounce' is redundant and has again been removed. As the source does not specifically indicate that the rate is either similar to or less than the rate in general society, I have reworded the statement to better reflect the source's statement that the ratio is not more than the general rate.--Jeffro77 (talk) 07:42, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

"Jehovah's Witnesses" obviously doesn't appear twice in the original statement. A better translation would be "The organization deplores abuse, and there is no evidence that more abuse occurs among Jehovah's Witnesses than elsewhere in society". (However, the obvious statement about 'deploring/denouncing abuse' remains redundant, with an unnecessary POV tone, since 'deploring abuse' is reasonably considered the default position.)--Jeffro77 (talk) 08:00, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

"Tar sterk avstand fra" is better translated as "strongly denounce", as User:Jeffro77 fail to notice the use of the word "sterk" (an adverb, may best translated strongly). Grrahnbahr (talk) 12:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)