Talk:Frank Spedding
Frank Spedding is currently a Chemistry and materials science good article nominee. Nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk) at 05:10, 7 June 2015 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria and will decide whether or not to list it as a good article. Comments are welcome from any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article. This review will be closed by the first reviewer. To add comments to this review, click discuss review and edit the page.
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A fact from Frank Spedding appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 June 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
I will review this article. Expect comments within a few days. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Infobox
- A picture would be nice to have here
- Yes. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- So why is there no picture in it right now? Seems incomplete without one Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't have one. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:26, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Google Images has tons of pics you can use. Keep in mind that using non-free images is fine for biographies of the deceased. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I have uploaded one I have on my server. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you. As the pic has an appropriate FUR and is (obviously) relevant to the article, I can now pass this for GA. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I have uploaded one I have on my server. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Google Images has tons of pics you can use. Keep in mind that using non-free images is fine for biographies of the deceased. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't have one. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:26, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- So why is there no picture in it right now? Seems incomplete without one Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- For an American subject, MDY format should be used for dates per MOS:DATE
- Converted the dates. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Lead
- Is Spedding known to have had Canadian citizenship? If not, he should simply be described as an American chemist rather than a Canadian American per MOS:BIO, which says to generally just include nationalities.
- All the sources call him a Canadian, but he acquired U.S. Citizenship when his Canadian father was naturalized. Added this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- See above note on MDY format
- Early life and education
- Again, use MDY format
- His mother's maiden name (Marshall) should be included
- Added. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Did Spedding have any siblings? If so, include their names and whether they were older or younger
- None are recorded. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- A "was" should be placed between "he" and "born" in "Soon after he born"
- Corrected. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- "showed great promise" doesn't really seem formal or neutral
- Deleted. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Early career
- I've said it before and I'll say it again: please use MDY because this is an American subject
- How and when did Spedding first meet his wife Ethel? How long were they together before marrying??
- I know how, but not precisely when It was while he was at Berkeley, which means somewhere between 1929 and 1931. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- When was his daughter born?
- In 1939. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Add a comma after "Around this time"
- Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Manhattan Project
- MDY, not DMY
- "The best way"..... most effective would be a better description
- Uh.. okay. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Later life
- I'd make these four short paragraphs into two or three longer paragraphs per MOS:PARAGRAPHS, which discourages really short paragraphs
- Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Once again, please use MDY
- "Over the years" → "Throughout his career"
- Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Is "250 peer-reviewed papers" referring to the 260+ articles mentioned here on page 3 of the PDF?
- Yes, Changed to 260. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Dead link needs to be replaced
- Restored from archive. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- This does not explicitly mention December 15, though I did find that date here, and it can be used in place.
- Added. It does implicitly though, since we know December 16 was a Sunday, so Saturday was December 15.
- It's probably worth including he had three grandchildren at the time of his death
- Done. I don't normally include grandchildren, because often more are later born.
- If known, I'd include what Spedding died from
- Not known. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Patents
- I don't see how this section is really needed as it only contains a list of links
- Removed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Notes
- Again, MDY should be used
- For FN16, I don't think it's necessary to include page numbers for the Seaborg PDF or have it as an sfn ref as it is the only reference to this document
- I like to keep the books down there together. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Even so, the PDF wasn't exactly a "book". I've adjusted accordingly.
- I like to keep the books down there together. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
All points addressed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry for not getting to this sooner, Hawkeye7. Good work so far. The main thing this needs right now is an infobox image. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Overall
- Well-written?
- Prose quality: Decent, but needs improvements
- Manual of Style: Could be better
- Verifiable?
- Reference layout: Questionable use of "Sfn" for one of the refs
- Reliable sources: Looks good
- No original research: Close, but not quite
- Broad in coverage?
- Major aspects: Mostly good, but a few bits are missing
- Focused: No excess detail
- Neutral?: Almost
- Stable?: Nothing of concern
- Illustrated, if possible, by images?
- Appropriate licensing: Does not apply since there are currently no photos used
- Relevance and captioning: It would be worth adding a picture of Spedding to the infobox
- Pass or Fail?: Placing this on hold for seven days. Not too many problems with the article. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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