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Odd Listing

Why, under Nobel Prize winners is he listed under Serbia? He is of Croatian ethicity and born and raised in Bosnia. If anything he should be listed under Croatia and Bosnia. March 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.35.164.132 (talk) 10:38, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Overturned convictions

Why is this article in the "Overturned convictions" category? Although he was imprisoned for political reasons, no conviction is mentioned.Bill (talk) 03:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslav ID

The article explains that "In Yugoslav identity card issued in June 1951, Yugoslav government declared Andrić as Serb" -- all of the official paperwork regarding someone's identity, as well as ethnicity, was done in accord with that person, by filling the application forms by that particular person; stating the quoted, one could mistakenly came to think that Yugoslavia had a body of some kind, with discrete rights to arbitrarily "declare" someone's personal information, ethnicity, origin or beliefs, which wasn't the case in federal Yugoslavia. He was a corresponding member of the (Royal) Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts since 1926 and a full member since 1939 (http://www.sanu.ac.rs/English/Clanstvo/IstClan.aspx?arg=15), long before his international fame and Nobel prize (and there is a flow of not publishing this dates in the article). He was not in captivity, so there's no need to construct a dull tone regarding his free will decisions. Another written document regarding his nationality is Communist party application form, single-handedly written by I. Andrić. There's a marriage certificate and a quite a few other documents kept in his fund, proving the same. http://www.ivoandric.org.rs/html/body_vencani_list.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.139.202 (talk) 10:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also worth to mention the 1957 Yugoslav Who is Who in which he also declared himself a Serb. --Igor82 (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, so he legally changed his ethnicity from Croat in 1914 to Serbian in 1958? Didn't know that would be valid. Jackiechan321 (talk) 02:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ivo Andric was an ethnic Croat

Where does it say in any credible historical reference that Ivo Andric was born to Serbian parents? Ivo Andric was born to Croatian parents Antun Andric and Katarina Pejic and brought up a Roman Catholic. Not to mention that his father's name Antun is not used by Serbs in the way it is spelt. Rather the Serbs use Antonije and Croats use Antun - equivalent to English Anthony!

see serbian name Antonije http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Антоније

See english http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_%28given_name%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.48.43 (talk) 01:20, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andric was born ethnic Croat, I haven't heard his parents were Serbs. However he's Serb by choice and nobody denied that. He even didn't allowed his Croatian ethnic background to be mentioned in Yugoslav Encyclopedia. Also, the majority of his literal work belongs to Serbian literature. --N Jordan (talk) 02:11, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, but during his lifetime, there was no Croatia or Serbia, how can he be Serbian when it was Yugoslavia? You can't change ethnicity. Jackiechan321 (talk) 02:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well Andric was born in Travnik, then AH empire, does that make him Austian? When interviewed once, Andric said "One has to be born somewhere". Andric was born in catholic family but he is serbian writer since he wrote on serbian language and praized serbian literature. Since this crazy quoestion of ethnicity became so popular after Andrics death, Mesa Selimovic, next to Andric the best writer of that time in Yugoslavia, out of protest and shame that such a question was raised, publicly stated that he comes from Muslim family but his nationality is Serbian since he belongs to literature of Vuk Karadzic, Simo Matavul, Stevan Sremac, Borisav Stankovic, Petar Kocic, Ivo Andric. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Đorđe Batić (talk • contribs) 19:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not disputing that he chose to be a Serb later in life. However I did see an edit previously in the main article regarding his parents' supposed Serbian ethnicity - hence the question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.49.166 (talk) 12:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic Croat? Nope. See my post below.--72.66.12.17 (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Double Standards

Why is it that for the Nikola Tesla page, he is stated as Serbian not Austro-Hungarian but here Andric is Yugoslavian not Croatian? Going by ethnicity that is. Jackiechan321 (talk) 19:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tesla's page doesn't say he is "Serbian" or "Austro-Hungarian", but Serbian American (i.e. an American citizen of Serb ancestry) because he was a Serb who spent most of his life in America. "Yugoslav" doesn't pertain to ethnicity, but nationality (I also wouldn't mind seeing Tesla described as simply an American scientist in the intro to his article).

Andrić was a Croat born in Bosnia (who lived very shortly under Austria-Hungary) and spent most of his life in Belgrade, the capital of Serbia. In any case, he lived in Yugoslavia for much of his life and in later years refused to identify as a Croat. So as not to satisfy POV-pushers on any side, the article identifies him as a Yugoslav (which he was from 1918 on, including when he won the Nobel Prize). The "Early life" section clearly states his parents were Croats from Travnik. 23 editor (talk) 00:23, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes he was a Croat, so why not put that he is of Croatian decent? Are are agreeing with me. Jackichan1234 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because some Serb from America was editing Tesla's page. I'm sorry, but Serbs shouldn't make english wikipedia in cases when it's matter of people Croatian/Serbian/Bosniak/Montenegrin ethnicity. This became Serbian wikipedia on English. Dude is clearly biased and doesn't talk about facts at all. He just puts what he wants to, without adding further informations. :::