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Image Usage

Hi, I'm in the process of reversing a merge of some pages, and creating an individual article for each of the High schools in the Nebo School District. What regulations are there about using their respective logos in the infoboxes etc? Thanks, MrCrazyDude (talk) 16:36, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, MrCrazyDude, and welcome back to the Teahouse. Generally the rule for Fair Use of copyrighted logos is that a low-resolution copy (200 pixels or thereabouts) is acceptable when used on the page of the organization whose logo it is. Note that logos generally cannot be uploaded to Commons, but must be hosted on Wikipedia proper, and must have a Fair Use rationale included. In the infobox, when the article has an infobox, is an excellent place for such a logo to be displayed. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 16:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Just to clarify, GrammarFascist, do you mean 200 pixels total, or approximate max. dimensions of 200 x 200 pixels? Thanks again, MrCrazyDude (talk) 17:02, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

There is no specific size rule about logos, unlike album covers and other artwork. The fair-use rationale states "The logo is of a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by the company or organization, without being unnecessarily high resolution." so a simple logo could be lower resolution but a complex one higher resolution, so it is not a splodge. Please see Wikipedia:Logos for the specific guidance. - Arjayay (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

GrammarFascist probably means about 200px in terms of one, the widest, dimension - this is usually the width. There is no specific rule, but the relevant guideline can be found at: WP:IMAGERES. My personal interpretation is that since the purpose of the image is to serve as identification in the infobox, the image should not be larger than the size it is rendered by the infobox. For instance, Template:Infobox school renders the image put in the |logo= parameter at the width of 250px, so I would upload the image resized to 250px width. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 17:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, MrCrazyDude, I meant approximately 200 pixels in its longest dimension, and that figure was just a suggestion, not a rule. I should have stated that more clearly. I believe Finnusertop is correct that the display width for infobox images is 250px wide, so since that would probably be the only place the image would be displayed on Wikipedia, uploading a copy of each logo that is 250px wide seems to be the best idea. If you have already uploaded a larger or smaller version of any of the high schools' logos, you can use the "Upload a new version of this file" link to replace it with a 250px version. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 17:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

The guideline gives examples of 320x240 px and 250x400 px, making the longest dimension closer to 400 pxels, so 250px is definitely still on the safe side, but per the reasoning above, ideal for infoboxes. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 17:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

The problem with logo size in the infobox is that if it gets over approx 225px, it stretches the size of the infobox. Common practice on school articles is to limit the size to 180-200px. You can use the size paramater in the file. Example: |logo = [[File:LogoFoo.png|180px]] John from Idegon (talk) 18:44, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I was unable to replicate this, John from Idegon. The infobox is of the same width with an image set to less than 250px (eg. 180) than it is with a larger image when no size is specified in |logo_size=. Setting |logo_size= to wider than 250px, however stretches the box. Other than that, the template always renders the width of the infobox as if the image was 250px. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 10:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks all, I'll proceed with the images then. Thanks, MrCrazyDude (talk) 10:39, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

MrCrazyDude, please note that you can't use the images in your sandbox (see NFCC#9. You should upload them only when your article is ready and in article space. In the meanwhile, you can use a placeholder image (eg. File:Example.svg) in your sandbox. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 11:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Finnusertop! I didn't know that. Thanks again, MrCrazyDude (talk) 11:37, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Finnusertop, I'm not MrCrazyDude but I do have to ask: can the final images be used instead of example images in Draft space versus User space? Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} { Talk } 22:33, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

No, see the link already provided above to NFCC#9. - David Biddulph (talk) 23:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

where

where can i find some pages that need inproving have not seen any pages that need to be edited thanks Kaiwen0115 (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Kaiwen0115, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia:Community portal features a frequently updated list of articles with specific problems you can help improve. I like to think of it as the starting point for everything related to the Wikipedia community, as it has helpful links to almost every community department. If you need help getting started, I recommend The Wikipedia Adventure, which is a fun, interactive introduction to contributing. For a more formal, less-interactive introduction, see Wikipedia:Tutorial. If you have any questions, feel free to post here at the Teahouse again. All the best, Mz7 (talk) 03:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Kaiwen0115, copy this snippet of code and drop this code snippet on to your User talk:Kaiwen0115 page (go to your Talk page and click on 'Edit'):

{{User:SuggestBot/config
|frequency = weekly
}}

and then Save it. In a few days, SuggestBot will drop a matrix of suggestions on your Talk page, and every week another matrix. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} { Talk } 03:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)