User talk:Sus scrofa

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Mutant Chronicles

Regarding your recent edit to Mutant Chronicles (diff), I believe that Target Games AB is and always has been a child company of Paradox Entertainment, though Paradox had a different name originally. — Saxifrage ✎ 16:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, yeah, the company history of Target Games is kind of fuzzy.. At first (for instance) I thought Target started off under the name Äventyrsspel but others have said otherwise. I think Paradox was a child company of Target Games, and then Target went bust for some reason around -99 and the IP of Target was transfered to Paradox. I think I could source this but the sources are in Swedish and I don't know if the rules allows that. --Sus scrofa 17:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was playing Warzone at the time Target Ireland went belly-up and dragged the rest of the miniatures divisions with it. If I recall correctly, the parent company shut down Target and changed their own name to Paradox. What it was before I don't recall though. I believe the IP wasn't transferred though, but that it was always owned by the parent company. — Saxifrage ✎ 23:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so on in this pdf: http://runan.info/pdf/nummer/runan37.pdf (sidebar on page 26), Fredrik Malmberg, one of the founders of Äventyrsspel, is asked if Äventyrsspel began as a separate company that was then remade as Target Games. The answer is kind of fuzzy, but Malmberg says that Äventyrsspel had one ownership structure, Target Games one and Tradition (a game store) had another and that after some time the companies were joined into one concern with Target Games "on top" and Malmberg as general manager. No mention of Paradox.--Sus scrofa 20:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paradox "happened" a while after that. Ah, here's a good source for the article: http://www.mobygames.com/company/paradox-entertainment-ab ! There the author says that Target Games restructured into three divisions, with one being the "parent" of three other companies. The parent-of-three later changed its name to Paradox Entertainment, which later bought the IP of one of the others... Wow, and it gets even more complicated. I'm still not sure I understand what happened there after reading the article once through. In any case, it does sound like there was a transfer of IP, though only for legal reasons: it seems that Paradox is a direct descendant of the original Target Games (before it was called Target Games AB). — Saxifrage ✎ 20:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think I understand the history now: Target Games restructured into a company called Target Games which owned three other companies: Target Games AB, Target Games Adventure AB, and Target Games interactive AB. Target Games Adventure AB was the parent company of the US, Ireland, and UK comanies that produced Warzone and Cronopia. Target Games interactive AB then changed its name to Paradox Entertainment, bought Target Games Adventure AB from Target Games (the top-most company). Later, people from Target Games who had left the company bought Paradox Entertainment from Target Games so that Paradox was now an independent company.

So, Target Games, Target Games AB, and Paradox Entertainment are all different companies, though Target Games owns Target Games AB and used to own Paradox Entertainment. I think it would be accurate for the article to say that Mutant Chronicles was developed by Target Games and is now owned by Paradox Entertainment which is a spin-off from Target Games. Does that make sense? — Saxifrage ✎ 20:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that sounds about right. --Sus scrofa 21:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]