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    October 25

    Question About Chinese name Template

    Sometimes, in Articles for Creation, I encounter a draft BLP that has the {{Chinese name}} template at the top, but the name of the person consists of a given name followed by a surname, and is thus the Westernized form of the name. Is this template appropriate in those cases? My assumption is that it is not, because it is used to alert the English-reading readers of the English Wikipedia that the name follows a nomenclature standard that is not what is normally used in English-speaking countries, not merely that the surname is of East Asian origin. (I am aware that there are other templates that identify other naming standards, such as Icelandic, Spanish, and Hungarian.) Should a reviewer remove the template in those cases? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:13, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    If some articles have Chinese names with the surname first, and some with the surname last, then I would have thought that the template to which you refer is useful in both cases, to clarify which is the surname in that particular case. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Removal of PROD template

    Hello. I wanted to know what can be done in cases where the article's creator removes the PROD template without making any changes to his article. In terms of a warning, reporting, etc. provided he has been warned several times on his userpage as well as the article's talk page. Apart from the edit war or disruptive editing, isnt it also against Wikipedia's policies that the PROD has to be contested? Pixarh (talk) 08:16, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read WP:PROD, Pixarh. It says, in the second paragraph: "Any editor may object to the deletion by simply removing the tag; this action permanently cancels the proposed deletion via PROD." This is because PROD is for uncontested deletions - as soon as anybody contests the deletion, the PROD is disallowed. If an editor wishes to pursue the deletion, they need to move to WP:AFD. --ColinFine (talk) 10:12, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    okay. Thank you. Pixarh (talk) 10:26, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    comments

    I have a "question". Why does wiki have no a comment box?? I mean, like under each article there should be an comment box. some times there are things that u never find anywhere but u find then in comment section. get the idea from reddit ^^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Useless22123 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Useless22123. Every article on Wikipedia has an associated talk page, for discussion about improving the article. (Sometimes the talk page hasn't yet been created, but it can be). You can get to the talk page by picking the "Talk" or "Discussion" tab at the top of the article. --ColinFine (talk) 15:57, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    suggestion box

    create a suggestion box easier to use — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.154.194.68 (talk) 14:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The WP:Village Pump is a kind of suggestion box. Will that do? --ColinFine (talk) 15:59, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Paul Mercier

    Header added by ColinFine (talk) 15:59, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello All,

    I'm new to wikipedia and have never actually coded before so I apologise if this can be done very easily. I'm setting up a page for Paul Mercier a playwright and film director which you can see here: User:Faeryfort/Paul Mercier (playwright)

    If anyone is free to review this and accept it to Wikipedia please let me know.

    Thanks all, Faeryfort — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faeryfort (talk • contribs) 15:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Faeryfort. Well, done, that is a very good start for somebody new to Wikipedia: you've been doing your homework. I haven't done a formal review (I suggest you request one by putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of the article) but the thing that struck me is that the language is not (quite) neutral. Taking the sentence "His work is famous for its gritty poetic realism and examination of ordinary, contemporary Irish life" I see two separate problems with it. First, it says (in Wikipedia's voice) that his work is famous. That is not a statement that any Wikipedia article should make unless it is explicitly quoting a reliable published independent source that says so. Secondly, it is drawing a conclusion which I do not find in the two sources cited (I looked at them cursorily, so it's possible I missed such a statement in one of them; but if the conclusion is there, the article should attribute it to the source: "Watt, Morgan and Mustafa argue that ... " or some such, as well as the citation. See original research for the principle here.
    A couple of details: iMDB is generally not regarded as a reliable reference, because it is largely user-generated. And in my view the list of works is too long relative to the text. Preferably enlarge the text (but only by adding new material from reliable independent sources of course), or reduce the list to a more selective ography.
    One other point: I may be being over-picky, but I would suggest you forget the idea of "setting up a page for" Mercier, and substitute "Writing an article about" him. --ColinFine (talk) 16:19, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    You should also make it clear that as his daughter you know that you have a conflict of interest when writing about him. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I avgree with the above comments, Faeryfort. I would add, please include the publication date of your sources in the citations, using the |date= parameter whenever a date is known. Also include a page numer (|page=) or page range (|pages=) for printed sources or sources in PDF or other formats where page numbers are relevant. Include the author of the source using the |first= and |last= parameters when the author is known. See Referencing for Beginners for more detail. DES (talk) 19:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding a new section

    How to add a new section in mobile? The edit summary will start with "New talk section: ". GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 16:27, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    On which page? Mobile talk pages in some namespaces should have an "Add discussion" button. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Having difficulty with nominating an article for deletion.

    I'm trying to Nominate Bicycle cooperative for deletion following the instructions here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_nominate_a_single_page_for_deletion but the templates the instructions tell me to use are not working as I expect. Could someone have a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm a reasonably experienced editor, but don't know what I'm doing when it comes to AFD. Thanks!--Keithonearth (talk) 16:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Step II says: "Replace PageName with the name of the page". In your case: Replace PageName with Bicycle cooperative. It looks like you instead replaced PageName with {{subst:Articles for deletion/Bicycle cooperative}}. I have fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:28, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, both for fixing it, and the excellent explanation! I guess it was a copy and past error on my part. --Keithonearth (talk) 17:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    hullo ppl

    I need some help with creating userboxes on my userpage. Jorge524288 (talk) 18:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    thanks

    Here on WP we only go upto en3. See Template:Userbox/Language1--Aspro (talk) 19:22, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Whoops forget that. Your hyphen was in the wrong place. Now works.--Aspro (talk) 19:28, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    If you're trying to create a user page like User:Alexbarrow. Go to his page and click on edit this page tab at the top and simply study the Wikicode he uses. If that fails, come back here.--Aspro (talk) 19:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Remove image submitted to commons

    Mistakenly submitted image to commons (wanted it in sandbox only). How can it be deleted ? S051125E — Preceding unsigned comment added by S051125E (talk • contribs) 19:16, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Does it need to be deleted? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:19, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you sure you uploaded it to Commons? If you are talking about File:Faux Russell L. De Valois.jpg it will be deleted at the beginning of next month. If you're talking about another image please tell us what it is.--Aspro (talk) 20:12, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems like they figured it out according to this.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Incidentally. One can not upload an image solely for use in your sandbox. It has to posses an acceptable copyright license and be usable throughout the rest of WP. If you wish, I can put a note on the image page, to the effect that the up-loader did it in error and thus its deletion is not contested, if that puts your mind to rest.--Aspro (talk) 20:26, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    article on John Prevas.

    in reference to one of your pages, ( the author of Hannibal Crosses the Alps, John Prevas ) it doesn't. mention that he taught at Thomas Stone High School, in Waldorf Maryland. The best teacher I had — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjv34 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you Kjv34. The John Prevas article could use additional sources and expansion. Can you supply any reliable source(s) that show that he taught at Thomas Stone High School? If you can, that can be added to the article. Wikipedia articles should be based on facts published in reliable sources. Personal memories are unfortunately not verifible and so cannot be cited. DES (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    October 26

    My article

    hello,

    I just submitted some work to Wikipedia and it has an embarrassing flag on it. When you go to google and type in "Seeking the Splah" it has a red flag on it? Can this be removed immediately. This is a new term that needs to be introduced to scholars.

    Please allow the article to be published without reservation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdeydogon (talk • contribs) 00:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I have edited my flagged article and I would like for the embarrassing flag to be removed. who removes this and how long will it take? The article was seeking the splah.

    Gdeydogon (talk) 00:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Gdeydogon The flag has been removed -- along with the "article". Wikipedia is not a place to promote newly coined terms. When and if multiple reliable sources not associated with you use the term and discuss it in some detail, Wikipedsia might have an article about it, but even then someone else should draft it. See WP:NOT, Notability, WP:42, WP:OWN, and WP:COI. DES (talk) 01:13, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


    ok... then rid it all the way.. When I type it into google it still comes up. Please remove it from the search engine so that I will no longer be associated with Wikipedia now and in the future.

    Gdeydogon (talk) 01:16, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    pointless rant
    The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

    I do not want to be associated with WIKIPEDIA! Now that my article has been removed, I do not want to be associated with Wilepedia when you search my name! Please correct this so that I deactivate my account.

    When I type my name and the title of my article it showed that I was once apart of wikipedia and that now it has been removed. I DO NOT WANT MY SEARCHABLE NAME AND ARTICLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE IN THIS MANNER!!!!!!!!! PLEASE REMOVE THIS IMMEDIATE SO THAT I CAN DEACTIVATE THIS ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Gdeydogon (talk) 01:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    You might as well stop yelling, Gdeydogon it isn't likely to help you. Wikipedia accounts are never deleted, but you can use the Right to vanish procedure to have your account renamed to a random username. You would have to make the request in accordance with the procedure, however. Wikipedia has no control over what Google reports or how quickly it revises its indices. DES (talk) 01:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    repeated rant
    The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

    When I type my name and the title of my article it showed that I was once apart of wikipedia and that now it has been removed. I DO NOT WANT MY SEARCHABLE NAME AND ARTICLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE IN THIS MANNER!!!!!!!!! PLEASE REMOVE THIS IMMEDIATE SO THAT I CAN DEACTIVATE THIS ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Gdeydogon (talk) 01:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


    LOL @YOU MIGHT AS WELL STOP YELLING

    Gdeydogon (talk) 01:31, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


    UMM... this is not working. could you please administratively vanish me from here. I tried and it keeps saying that im need to log in, which i am. Please just get me out of here! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdeydogon (talk • contribs) 01:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I am sorry, Gdeydogon but I am not a renamer or a steward, and cannot do that. You will need to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing#How to request a courtesy vanishing if you want such a rename. To protect users, it will only be done when the request comes directly from the user involved. As stated on that page, you can sens Wikipedia email via Special:EmailUser/Bureaucrats, or visit Special:GlobalRenameRequest and fill out the form there. Or send email via meta:Special:EmailUser/Wikimedia Stewards or to stewards@wikimedia.org. In any of these cases use "request for courtesy vanishing" as the subject/reason. If the form displays an error message, please either use the email method or report the exact error message here. DES (talk) 03:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Internet Explorer 11 questions

    I've used FF for a very long time when I edit Wikipedia. For troubleshooting reasons, I tried using IE 11 tonight. I have two questions, the first much more important than the second:

    1. I have Zoom set to 115%. For most things that gives me the approximate font size I want. However, the edit window is not affected by the zoom, and font size is tiny. For me, it's almost impossible to work with. What can I do to fix this?
    2. I like to open new windows rather than open tabs. When I'm in IE and I right-click on a wikilink and pick open new window, it never opens maximized. I have to maximize it, and IE doesn't remember my preferred size the way most progams do and repeats the same behavior ad nauseam. On this issue, I've searched the web, and there are a lot of complaints about this behavior across multiple versions of IE. None of them seems to work for the users. Many "solutions" appear implausible and/or complicated. Is there a way to fix this?

    Thanks very much.--Bbb23 (talk) 07:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you sure it doesn't zoom a little and you just want it to zoom more than other text? It may start out smaller than other text depending on the browser. Try this or another number in your CSS:
    textarea { font-size: 125%; }
    PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    The other text is pretty big, obviously zoomed, whereas the edit window is unchanged. I remember also that one time I tried a higher zoom (not for Wikipedia), and anything above 115% was too big. Wouldn't a change to my CSS affect Firefox (the edit window font size is fine in FF) as well?--Bbb23 (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm using FF now, but I went back to IE and experimented. 100% and 115% appear to be the same in the edit window, but 125% does make the font size in the window bigger. Unfortunately, as I said above, the surrounding text and text on other Wikipedia pages is way too big. Looks like big print books at the library. My eyes aren't great, but they aren't that bad. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 14:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: I guess you haven't had time to respond, so I figured it would do no harm to try changing common.css as you suggested. First, it changed the edit window text to be HUGE. I tried lowering it in increments to 110%. I couldn't see any difference between 110 and 125%. Second, other things are still tiny. For example, the form to delete a page - the area in the Delete where it has the reasons for the deletion and the drop-downs (same thing for example in the edit summary text box). It's tiny with no change to common.css and with 125%. I have a feeling you may not have a solution to this problem, or at least not one that's palatable to me, but if you do ... Either way, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:27, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Reliable Sources

    These are some reliable sources to confirm Enrico Poli is what he says he is:

    http://www.euganeafilmfestival.it/festival2014/scheda.php?id=75&lang=en http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6023560/ https://indiflixx.com/videos/closure/ http://www.rickdeckard.net/redazione/enrico-poli/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epoli.uk (talk • contribs) 10:15, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    1. This is the wrong place for this. Talk:Enrico Poli is the correct place.
    2. Some of those fail our reliable sourcing standards. IMDB for example, is written by a bunch of monkeys on typewriters. and Rickdeckard.net appear to be a blog, which (from Wikipedia's perspective) amounts to a single monkey on a single typewriter.
    3. Articles require multiple reliable sources completely independent of the subject to survive. The Eugenea Film Festival website is not sufficiently independent because they are showing one of his movies. Indiflixx likewise appears to be an outlet for his movies, not an independent source.
    4. I'm finding it really hard to believe that the "Epoli" in your username doesn't stand for "Enrico Poli." If that's the case, you should avoid editing any articles relating to Enrico Poli due to your obvious conflict of interest.
    Ian.thomson (talk) 10:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    And one more point, Epoli.uk: even if the references were all reliable, "confirm[ing] Enrico Poli is what he says he is" is not relevant. There are places on the Internet that confirm that I am who I say I am: they do not mean that I am notable enough for Wikipedia to have an article about me. We require substantial writing about a subject, published by people who have no connection with the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 18:46, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Relisting a request for comment

    Does anyone know if it is possible to relist an RfC? I tried to do so at Talk:Turks in Bulgaria, which initially seemed to work but then the bot removed the RfC template as expired. I've tried asking at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment, but there's been no reply so far. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Insert picture (jpg) in text

    How do I insert a picture in text. I spent a long time formatting and getting pictures into Wikimedia Common. Now how do I insert some of these in a page of text? I've seen entries with pictures. Holyinn43 (talk) 11:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Holyinn43, [[File:filename.jpg|thumb|description]] You can also add |left if you don't want it at the right Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:57, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    See more at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Note the file name must be an exact match in capitalization so it's .JPG for four of the five files at commons:Special:Contributions/Holyinn43. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I have fixed the markup in the article (Holy Innocents Church, Southwater) (coincidentally the image used is one I took a few years ago). This shows the changes that were needed. Holyinn43: I have also added all five of your pictures to the category "Category:Holy Innocents Church, Southwater" on Commons, and have linked this category to the Wikipedia article by means of {{commons category |Holy Innocents Church, Southwater}} so they can be found easily from the article. Thanks for uploading these, particularly the interior pictures. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:49, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Article verification

    Hy Wilkepia

    My Name is Nafiu Yakubu I am The Founder Of Nivo Academy an online academy for web developer, computer programmers and students offering tutorial

    Please i would like to know how to get my article verified for Nivo academy which i just wrote a little about it using my account Nafson84 and also why is my article placed under deletion contest for more information contact me at <email address redacted>

    Regards Nafiu Yakubu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nafson84 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The reasons are explained clearly on your user talk page. You also need to read about conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Nafson84, in all probability, you can't. Certainly not the article you posted. It has now been deleted twice as advertising. As per WP:SOAP and WP:SPAM, Wikipedia should not be used to promote any cause, business, product, or person. The only way an article about Nivo Academy can be created and stay around is if independent reliable sources cover it in some detail, and someone uses those sources to write a well-cited, neutral article about it. And, as per our conflict of interest guideline that someone should not be you. DES (talk) 12:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    One way of looking at the problem, Nafson84, is that Wikipedia has almost no interest in what a person wants to say about themselves, or their company, school, relatives, band etc. It is only interested in what other people, people unconnected with the subject, have published about it in reliable places. So, an article about your academy must be based almost 100% on what people unconnected with the academy have published about it, and not at all on what you have said, or want to say, about it. --ColinFine (talk) 18:52, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with creating maps of China

    I have received an email from a collegue of mine, a professor who occasionally edits Wikipedia. He would like to contribute some maps, but has a problem that I am not sure how to help him with - but I am sure someone here will be able to provide proper help. Here's his email:

    [code] I have access to a highly-skilled research assistant this semester. We would like to create a whole bunch of maps showing administrative divisions of China by GDP, foreign investment, population, etc. I'll be using these in my own work but we're very happy to contribute these to Wikimedia Commons. He'll be making dozens of maps but I'll only be using a few in my published work. The problem is that we can't figure out how to "color in" the map templates that are available on Wikipedia. We've found these pages:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_geographic_image_maps

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_map_resources

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_administrative.gif

    But we can't figure out how to get an image map of China in the first place that we can then color in. I think we just need a little kick-start, after which Ki Fong can generate A LOT of content for you. We're doing a lot of interesting data work with official Chinese data ... I think it could make a great addition to Wikipedia.

    Help?[/code]

    If there are any replies here, please echo me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Piotrus: Can you use something in commons:Category:Blank maps of China? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Piotrus: You might find some help at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop. I know there are some editors on Wikipedia who just work on creating maps that are requested. They probably have information on how to obtain a general map that you can then adapt for your purposes (with references to source material, of course). Liz Read! Talk! 14:18, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Piotrus: There are many helpful editors who hang out at Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop I think they would be willing to help out both directly in coloring maps but also to provide instructions on how to add the coloring. (looks like a xpost)--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:19, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Piotrus: You might also drop a note to @Munion:. That editor is a cartographer, and recently organized a map creation event, which resulted in a number of fine maps being uploaded to Commons. Finished products may require a permission statement, and that editor has real life experience with what needs to be done. (In short, if the creator of the map uploads it themselves they may not need to provide a permission statement, but if one individual uploads the map created by another individual, a permission statement will definitely be needed. I can help with the necessary permission statements.)--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Gothyan bari

    Gothyan bari needs attention, if anyone has the time/inclination. 223.205.245.163 (talk) 13:59, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    It was deleted as G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement. RJFJR (talk) 15:35, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Finding identical (or close refs?)

    I'm trying to find any sort of category (or tool?) that will give me either or both of the following for improvement using refnames and the rp template.

    • Articles where the content of more than one ref is completely identical
    • Articles where the ref contains a cite (presumably cite book) which is identical other than the page/pages value.

    Naraht (talk) 16:15, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Connecting Apps

    How to connect apps like facebook on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janak Saran Adhikari (talk • contribs) 16:32, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you be more specific about what it is that you're trying to do? Perhaps something like User:TheDJ/Sharebox is what you're after. Dismas|(talk) 16:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    The tool at User:TheDJ/Sharebox is no longer available. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I wasn't aware of that, thanks. Though, we're still left wondering what the OP wants. Dismas|(talk) 02:04, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Two asterisks for tabbed bullet point results in one empty bullet point

    If statement like this is found in a page's markup:

    **this is a test

    it will appear like this:

      • this is a test

    This really bugs me when I am dealing with the article Bakusō Kyōdai Let's & Go!!. Is there any way to put a tabbed bullet point without causing an untabbed, empty bullet point? Junkcops, aka FMecha (mail box|what I did) 17:04, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    You mean
    • Like this?
    If so just place one (or more) colon(s) before the asterisk - Arjayay (talk) 17:07, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Junkcops, Two adjacent asterisks are intended for a sub bullet under a higher-level bullet, and should not be used without a previous single asterisk line.

    Consider the following example:

    • Point 1
      • Point 1a
      • Point 1b
      • Point 1c
    • Point 2
      • Point 2a
    • Point 3
    • Point 4
    • Point Alpha, a separate indented item
    • Point Beta
    I hope that helps clarify things a bit. DES (talk) 00:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Page titles ending in "Fraternity"

    Resolved

    Is there any way to search for pages in mainspace where the last word is "Fraternity"?Naraht (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I tried putting an asterisk in front of the term (*fraternity), which seems to work. Then I found Help:Searching, which explains everything about searching and shows what I did was a "wilcard search". Czoal (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    That brings up both things with Fraternity and Fraternities in it and also many where the word Fraternity or Fraternities is in the middle of the title or in the text. I want only those pages where the last 10 characters of the Title are *exactly* Fraternity. Naraht (talk) 00:57, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    intitle:Fraternity will only give pages where it's in the title, but it can be anywhere in the title. Stemming means it also picks up some cases of "Fraternities". Help:Searching#Other search tools lists a more advanced but very slow tool at [1] which accepts regular expressions. It often times out or takes several minutes when I try to use it. I started it five minutes ago on Fraternity$, where $ matches the ending position. I'm still waiting to see if it ever returns someting. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:09, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    It just timed out without returning anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Naraht: I've created User:Naraht/Fraternity from a scan of the October 2 database dump. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC). Forgot the ping! -- John of Reading (talk) 08:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you to all, especially @John of Reading: and @PrimeHunter:. I ended up finding m:Research:Quarry and doing direct database access. It doesn't have pure regexp, but I minimum I can apparently use SQL wildcards (% for any number of characters, and _ for single characters). So I ended up doing use enwiki_p; select * from page where page_title like "%Fraternity"Naraht (talk) 16:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    "especially John of Reading and PrimeHunter". (Insert sad emoji face here.) Sorry, I tried. (Insert winking emoji face here.) Czoal (talk) 19:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @Czoal:, sorry I didn't realize that showing two meant that only one wasn't included.Naraht (talk) 19:33, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Just a little friendly humor. Thanks for the kitten! Czoal (talk) 19:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Deleted archives

    So recently i have created a wiki page on the band Mili, I believe they have sufficient importance to be on a wikipedia page, but the page was deleted without any responses from the admin. is this normal or do admins give a nudge once your page is deleted/your talk page has been read? 23:18, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Christine Connolly (A7: Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject) 

    23:17, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Pye Bridge railway station (A11: Article about a subject obviously invented by article creator or associate, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject) 
23:17, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Psalm Baby Cloth Diapers (A7: Article about a company, corporation or organization, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

    23:17, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Project Mili (G8: Talk page of a deleted page) 

    23:17, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Project Mili (A7: Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

    23:16, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Olayiwola Rasaq (G8: Talk page of a deleted page) 

    23:16, 26 October 2015 The JPS (talk | contribs) deleted page Olayiwola Rasaq (A7: Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

    the times in deletion log hardly tells me that he has glaced through the talk page, as what i had typed in there would have taken more than two minutes to read
    Edit: also if it was of any merit, I was editing said page at the time to prove my point, but alas, I must have not saved in time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abyssify (talk • contribs) 00:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    It appears that you have created these pages without understanding the process to go through. The deleting admin did use some short-hand regarding why the page was removed, but essentially the articles you attempted to create did not assert that they meet the criteria to be included in wikipedia -- see WP:BAND for more information about some of these criteria. I would suggest you take a look at WP:AFC for information about proposing an article to be created. Tiggerjay (talk) 01:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Admins rarely delete articles that are not already previewed and flagged as needing deletion by other editors. It doesnt take more than a few seconds to say "yep, that deletion flag is justified." -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    October 27

    Show/hide toggle not working

    On Appetite for Democracy (Tour), the show/hide toggle for the setlists is not working for me past the March 12 setlist. Is there a problem with the wiki markup? Thanks, --Viennese Waltz 07:42, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @Viennese Waltz: The setlists for March 13 and onwards have not been added to the article. The show/hide toggle is working, but there is nothing to show. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    You should add content. Fill content = parameter. Supdiop (T🔹C) 07:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, that would explain it :) Thanks for the reply, --Viennese Waltz 08:00, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Revert edits by banned editor/socks

    Can someone revert all the edits at Cosmic string from October 23, 2015, until present from 97.126.235.119, 75.169.210.101, 75.169.31.1? All are the same person, banned user Jeffrey Verson Merkey (JVM). He then created BLPDegreaser and used multiple IPs. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/BLPDegreaser/Archive. Anyway, I don't know how to revert all that content in that article in a single edit. I haven't looked to see what other edits all these accounts made in violation of the orginal ban that should be reverted. Czoal (talk) 08:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know the history of what's been going on there, so I'm hesitant to make any sweeping changes myself. That said, if you want to make a mass roll back, just click on the date stamp of the "correct" version of the article. This will give you what appears to be a normal article with a warning at the top that you're viewing an old version. Click Edit at the top and you'll get an edit window for that version of the article. This too will have a warning at the top saying that you're editing an old version. Add your edit summary and click Save. This old version is now the most current. Dismas|(talk) 12:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Resolved

    Thanks. Czoal (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing the title of article

    Please help me with... changing the name of the title of this page Mood 92.0 FM from Mood 92.0 FM to Mood FM.

    I cannot find the "move" button. We need to make these changes ASAP as we have opened up a new frequency. Thank you!

    Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahsalah88 (talk • contribs) 12:20, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Sarahsalah88 Can you provide a link to a published reliable source that shows this change, please? DES (talk) 13:13, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Sarahsalah88, as you are saying "we", you are obviously connected to the station, so have a conflict of interest in editing that article.
    Please read, and follow, the guidance here. In particular, please avoid editing that article, but make suggestions on the talk-page. - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 13:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Quite true, but then this user has not yet edited the article the user's edits seem to be the sort of factual changes even COI editors are often allowed to make directly, Arjayay. Sarahsalah88, you can't move a page until you are autoconfimred which requires at least 10 edits from an account at least 4 days old. You don't yet have 10 edits from your account. DES (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    However sources should be provided. DES (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    No, Sarahsalah88, we (that is, the community of Wikipedia editors) do not need to make the changes ASAP. Wikipedia goes by what the majority of the reliable sources say: what the subject of an article wants is of little consequence, since it is not their article, it is Wikipedia's. Since it's likely that most reliable published sources for the station still refer to it as Mood 92.0 FM, that should remain the title of the article, according to the rules. Having said that, if sources are produced which show that the name has changed, we probably would allow the article to be moved even though, strictly, it probably shouldn't be moved yet. Either way, the other name can and should be a redirect to the article - if it is moved, that will happen automatically. --ColinFine (talk) 18:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Report a plagiarism

    While searching for some information on my hometown, Los Teques, I did find by accident that there was a complete transcription of the text of a publication that I wrote and was edited by COLECCION ATENEO DE LOS TEQUES under No.12 and registered in the Venezuela's Library Catalogue under the Number ISBN: 980-6035-42-9. The point is that it those not give credit to the Ateneo de Los Teques as publisher or to me as the author:JOSE RAFAEL MALPICA MATERAN. "Los Teques en mis recuerdos" is the tittle of the publications whose front page or cover I am forwarding for your consideration and further actions. It was published by WIKIPEDIA with credit given to the sender: Ricardo Garcia who at the time looks like was employeed by Alcaldia del Municipio Guicaipuro as Comunicador Social (Journalist). Mr. Garcia incurred in a flagrant plagiarism as can be eassily verify.

    Most grateful yours,

    Jose Rafael Malpica M — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.96.79.233 (talk) 16:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you refer to the article Los Teques? I don't see anything in that article that looks as if it had been copied from such a document. Exactly what content was copied, please? By the way that article is quite short and completely unsourced. If you were able to provide reliable sources and expand the article based on them you would be helping the project. DES (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Your post is unclear to me. Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia with around 36 million articles in total spread over around 290 languages. We allow others to republish our articles and thousands have done so outside our control, sometimes together with content from other sources without specifying which parts are from Wikipedia. Can you describe more accurately how to find the work which plagiarizes you? Is it online? Can you give a quote which it copied from you? I found mention of a work called Los teques en mis recuerdos with ISBN stated as 978-980-6035-42-3. The listed author is you and not somebody called Robert Garcia, and the web page does not mention Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:01, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    DES and PrimeHunter, perhaps the OP is referring to Los Teques from the Spanish Wikipedia? Note that one of the references in the external links section ("Datos aportados por Mario Ricardo García (Com. Social).") includes the name of the person the OP mentioned, Ricardo Garcia. That source (Nota 1) is attached to the first paragraph of the "Radio" section. Czoal (talk) 19:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature formatting

    For a long time, I've had my signature formatted with the timestamp in italics, but this has always necessitated me signing my posts with ~~~~'' rather than just ~~~~. Is there a way I can incorporate the closing italics tag into my signature proper and still have the timestamp italicized? —⁠烏⁠Γ (kaw), 22:06, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    @KarasuGamma: You could try to make the time stamp a part of the signature code. I have set my signature to [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) ''{{SUBST:#time:H:i, d F Y}} (UTC)'' and signed this message with only three ~~~ which omits the normally added time stamp. I'm not sure whether pinging works but you can see whether this post pinged you. If you use this method and sign with four ~~~~ then you will get two time stamps. Both your and my method go against the intention of the software and may cause problems, for example in template messages with automatic signing. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: Everything appears to have worked, if my signature doesn't look broken at the end of this. (Now I just have to get used to using ~~~ >v>) Thanks for the quick response. —⁠烏⁠Γ (kaw) │ 03:00, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Irish Goodbye

    75.163.197.148 makes on my talk page what I believe is a genuine objection to the redirect currently found at Irish Goodbye. We have "Irish goodbye" on Wiktionary. What would be the proper course of action here? Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 23:04, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    The only action I can think of (other than leaving it as is) would be to redirect to Mac Lethal#Albums. —teb728 t c 23:47, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    A Wikipedia search shows that "Irish Goodbye" is the title of an album in Mac Lethal, a song in Lynn Teeter Flower, and a stand-up special for Netflix in Morgan Murphy (comedian). The three mentions are equally small and it seems Irish Goodbye should either be a disambiguation page (which should include a link to wikt:Irish goodbye) or be deleted. Readers would be better served by search results than being redirected to an article with a tiny mention of one the three unrelated works. The primary meaning appears to be the expression which is not mentioned in Wikipedia. It's common that multiple people choose the same word or expression as title of a work. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for feedback, I turned it into a DAB. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 05:44, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    October 28

    Forms of account creation in the user creation log

    I have noticed three different forms of account creation in the user creation log:

    • "created automatically"
    • "created"
    • "created (iOS App Account Creation)"

    What is the difference between "created automatically" and "created"? —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 00:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, of course, but I think that "created" is when someone creates an account here. And "created automatically" is when they create an account on a sister site, like Commons, and the account here is created as part of the global login process. Dismas|(talk) 01:07, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) @Skyllfully: "created automatically" means that the account was orignally created at another Wikimedia wiki, and later created automatically at the English Wikipedia when the user visited here logged in. Click "accounts" at the bottom of a user contributions page to see which wikis the account is registered at, and when. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks to both of your answers! —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 02:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    It's more or less central authentication then, for example, if I were to go to zh.wikipedia without already having been there, my account would've been "created automatically". —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 02:16, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Not a living person

    Henry Hook just died. His article reflects this information, but he is still categorized as a living person. I can't find anything in the page source which causes this; I've even looked at the source for a couple of likely templates. Matchups 02:30, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    It was removed in this edit. So, maybe you viewed the article when the cat was still there but then clicked on the page source after it was removed. Dismas|(talk) 02:46, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Speedy deletion record?

    Is there an equivalent of Template:Old AfD multi except for speedy deletions? I'm looking to note on a talk page that it was once speedy deleted.--Prisencolin (talk) 02:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Why? --Jayron32 02:47, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Lots of articles have been speedied in the past and are fine now. It is common for A7 deletes when the person or thing can't prove significance but then later gets that proof. All deletions are logged so if someone really wants to they can look it up. There is even a nice link to the page logs on the edit history page. --Stabila711 (talk) 02:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Create Page Ross Diamond

    Would like a page created on Ross Diamond

    Ex pro footballer for Birmingham City FC & Hereford United was released in 2002

    Played in Northern League for Northallerton Town, Billingham Town. Marske United,

    Now lives and plays in Perth, WA , Australia, played semi pro soccer for Canning City, Armadale, Cockburn, Stirling lions, western knghts & Balcatta FC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.209.221 (talk) 02:44, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello there, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you want a page created, you can create an account and write it yourself. You might want to read Wikipedia:Your first article if you choose to do this: in particular, subjects of pages must be talked about in reliable secondary sources, so we can establish that they are "notable".
    If you don't want to create the page yourself, you can add Ross Diamond (preferably with a few sources establishing notability) to Wikipedia:Requested articles and someone might create the page for you. But be aware that there are thousands of ideas listed at Requested articles and Ross Diamond may not be created for a very long time, if at all, unless you take it upon yourself to write a page for him. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 12:19, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Times of events

    In articles about events where the time is listed, what is the appropriate time to use? Local time? I ask because the article on the 2015 World Series lists the start times of games in both Kansas City and New York as EDT. Should not the games at Kaufmann Stadium be listed as CDT?    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 04:24, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    But an article about connected events in different time zones often uses a single time zone. I don't know whether American baseball has a practice here but I suggest you don't make changes without looking at similar articles or discussing it with editors of such articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Fair point. The last World Series had them all in EDT too. Which is odd, since neither of the teams that played in that series were on the east coast so none of the games used EDT. Perhaps this question should be directed towards the baseball WikiProject? --Stabila711 (talk) 04:59, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not American but I think events transmitted live in the whole country often use EST/EDT in US media, maybe because it has the largest population. Wikipedia may just follow that practice. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Conversation removed from article talk page

    Hi, an editor removed this conversation from the talk page of the chess-related article Blackburne Shilling Gambit, apparently because he was embarrassed that he was looking at the wrong position. This seems a bit irregular to me. Should I restore the conversation so that a record is kept? MaxBrowne (talk) 05:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    the record is always kept in the history.
    it is not standard process to remove a conversation, but do you find any value in keeping the conversation which has nothing to do with the subject of the article restored on the talk page? if so, restore and collapse it. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:34, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding coordinates

    How to quickly adding a coord just enter coord and latlong location, e.g. 42.563393,101.293402 to produce like {{coord|42.563393|101.293402|display=title}}? 1999 UY4Xe8VM5VYxaQQ (talk) 09:33, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    List of "model" Wikipedia articles to reference when writing an article?

    When improving on an article, I like to use another closely related Featured Article as a guide on how the article should be written, such as sections, lead, etc. I imagine many others use this same strategy. Currently I basically just pick a Featured Article arbitrarily, but I'm wondering, has anyone ever made a list of the "best" archetypal article of each content area (e.g. the best article on a video game, the best article on a type of dance, etc.)? I think that could be a really useful resource. Voyagingtalk 10:12, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    Request Edit: Please fix incorrect information on the list in the side box

    Page: Bombardier Recreational Products https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Recreational_Products — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuebecBased (talk • contribs) 13:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    - The correct "Revenue": $3.5 M [1] [2]

    - Remove the "Subsidiaries" section

    - The correct "Number of employees": 7,600 (2015) [3] [4]

    - In the section "Services": remove "Recreational Vehicle Financing"

    - In the section "Products": add "side-by-side vehicles" to the Can-Am brand; remove "SportBoats" from "Sea-Doo"; Remove "Johnson Outboards" [5] [6] [7] [8]

    - In the section "Key people": add Laurent Beaudoin and Joseph-Armand Bombardier [9][10] [11]

    - In the section "Industry": There is no need for a list. It should just read "Recreational Powersports vehicles." If one keeps a list, it will need to be updated because BRP has many more products than those listed on this page. [12]

    -- QuebecBased — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuebecBased (talk • contribs) 13:55, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ http://www.publications.brp.com/doc/en/annual-review-fy2015/2015052201/#4
    2. ^ https://www.google.ca/finance?q=TSE:DOO&fstype=ii&ei=1RLqUYj5OJ6wlgP3IA
    3. ^ http://www.publications.brp.com/doc/en/annual-review-fy2015/2015052201/#2
    4. ^ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/markets/stocks/summary/?q=DOO-T
    5. ^ http://www.brp.com/en-ca/company/news/brp-exit-sport-boat-market
    6. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_Outboards
    7. ^ http://www.brp.ca/off-road/
    8. ^ http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/article/brp-enters-side-side-market-can-am-commander-lineup
    9. ^ http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=628970&ticker=BBD/B:CN
    10. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurent_Beaudoin
    11. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph-Armand_Bombardier
    12. ^ http://www.brp.com/en-ca/vehicles

    Why isn't this table becoming sortable?

    Hi, I am making a list page in my sandbox; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sohebbasharat/sandbox/List_of_United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolutions_adopted_at_its_1st_Session although I have added the "sortable" tag in the table, but it isn't showing arrows for sorting, any ideas? Thank you for your help. Sohebbasharat (talk) 14:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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