Talk:Bulgarian alphabet

Including examples

I think the table should include Bulgarian words as examples. Also, what about the use of "m"? /aswler/

That's a possibility. What about the "m"? --JorisvS (talk) 08:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Roman script in Bulgarian

What about including both the romanized and the unromanized forms for comparison? —Dave Andrew (talk) 00:49, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the section a little bit. --V111P (talk) 06:35, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cursive letters

Hi there. As a learner, I found the cursive forms very confusing - and keep falling for it. Any objections to adding a column with the cursive forms? (I think that's what the reader above was referring to with "m" as in, "t") 87.112.180.82 (talk) 20:56, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done 87.112.180.82 (talk) 03:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually... in my book they use g for lowercase д, not д... Can someone confirm please? 87.112.180.82 (talk) 03:45, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but you have to use a cursive Cyrillic font to see the cursive forms. See the pictures at Cyrillic script#Letterforms and typography. --V111P (talk) 04:38, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, what do you mean? That we need to clarify that in the article, or add a reference to that section? Or that you oppose my change? Incidentally, I notice that lowercase italic п (п), in my font, doesn't look like n, but it just looks like a slanted п... Shall we just cheat and use italic latin letters, and say that that's what they look like (with some fonts)? 87.112.180.82 (talk) 21:17, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, your solution clearly didn't work, right? The only way to reliably show the cursive letters in Wikipedia is with an image, so I just included the image from the Cyrillic script article in this one as well. --V111P (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's important to show the cursive characters right next to the roman ones. Incidentally, I notice that your picture is also missing the п, ironically. 87.112.180.82 (talk) 07:47, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not "my" picture, and it shows exactly what you want - both the print and cursive letters. And п and n are not significantly different, that's why it's missing. --V111P (talk) 07:57, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, the reason why it's missing is because that image is incomplete. Also it suggests, and you also seem to believe, that you need an entirely different font to see the different shapes, which is not true. In my version I could see the cursive characters. I tested it with IE, Firefox and Chrome on a vanilla Windows 10 machine, so I don't see how you can claim that it "clearly didn't work". The only missing character was the g for д. What font are you displaying Wikipedia with? Anyway, I accept that we need to cater for many different systems, so I'll try the same solution as the one adopted in the (complete) table below the picture in the section you pointed me to. 87.112.180.82 (talk) 23:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I use Linux/Ubuntu. In your old version of the article, I see the cursive characters in Chrome, but not in Firefox, and I was using Firefox last time. Now I see them in Firefox too. As for д, that is the form used in italicized text in books, so it's not incorrect. The g-form is used in handwriting (also, б always looks like that in books, italicized text or not, but handwritten is more like as in the image). --V111P (talk) 03:01, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarifications and further testing. I have folded in your comments about д, please check. I'll try again to sort out the footnotes, I tried to follow WP:REFNAME earlier, but failed miserably. 87.112.180.82 (talk) 07:01, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My latest revision has been reverted by someone who thinks I made unconstructive edits, removed material, and who felt I needed to read WP:Edit war and "take a load off". They didn't provide any evidence of that despite my explicit requests. 87.112.180.82 (talk) 07:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have improved (I think) the table footnotes. Now I need to work out how to use numbers (less confusing) instead of letters. 87.112.180.82 (talk) 08:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The second of the two listed cursive forms for "Д" is still the Latin character. And it does look (in my browser: Firefox on Linux/Suse) like a latin character and not like a Cyrillic one. As for the user who reverted your edits earlier, it looks like semi-automated vandalism hunting – most of the time these can safely be undone without further fuss. Uanfala (talk) 10:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Russian cursive has good pictures of all the letters in their handwritten forms as used in handwriting in Bulgaria too, but they also include the Russian-only letters. --V111P (talk) 18:50, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just extracted

from this table, I hope it's acceptable. 87.112.180.82 (talk) 08:12, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]