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Rosa Rein

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This article highlights the craziness happening in the World's Oldest Persons area. Between the visible and hidden (click edit on article to see hidden) claims, Rosa Rein is supposed to be the on the lists for both super old people born in Poland and born in Germany, the oldest Jew at some point, super old people from Switzerland, super old people in the EU (except Switzerland is not in the EU), nth oldest person here there and somewhere and to hold assorted national longevity records. How to sort this all out? Delete the article per WP:NOPAGE (there is barely any bio info to put anywhere), ignore the confusing "record" claims, and reduce the slice and dice lists based on arbitrary criteria that has nothing to do with age. Legacypac (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Merge/Redirect to European list, with the tiny amount of info there is about here. EEng (talk) 22:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article makes an abundantly clear claim of notability for Rein and provides the reliable and verifiable sources needed to back the claim and create an appropriate article. (Personal attack removed) The issues that are raised by Legacypac are properly addressed by editing the article, not by deleting it. Alansohn (talk) 16:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What sources might that be? Two sources are dead links, one is a few sentences of her 109th birthday (Which would be WP:ROUTINE coverage) and the last one is a GRG table which does nothing to establish notability. CommanderLinx (talk) 08:41, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and/or Redirect to one of the five or so lists she's on. No justifying a standalone article. Taking out the unsourced trivia about her longevity leaves you with a name, age and country. Put her on a list. CommanderLinx (talk) 08:31, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There does seem to be craziness going on. There seems to be an attempt to purge Wikipedia of articles about "oldest people". This one is notable, there are several reliable sources that could be drawn on to expand the article. Regardless of whether you WP:DONTLIKE it or not, oldest people are a topic of interest to Wikipedia readers, and this goes beyond a mere entry on a list. And there also seems to be a campaign to rid the encyclopedia of lists of oldest people. The whole exercise is very WP:POINTy, and is making wikipedia into a WP:BATTLEGROUND and reeks of WP:OWNership. Jacona (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Expand There are several available sources regarding Mrs. Rein's longevity:

Rosa, la doyenne suisse (26 March 2005)

Älteste Schweizerin ist 109 Jahre alt (24 March 2006)

Älteste Schweizerin feierte 110. Geburtstag (24 March 2007)

Rosa Rein wird 111 (22 March 2008)

Älteste Schweizerin wird 111 Jahre alt (24 March 2008)

Rosa Rein feiert in Lugano-Paradiso ihren 112. Geburtstag (2 April 2009)

Älteste Schweizerin Rosa Rein kurz vor 113. Geburtstag gestorben (14 February 2010)

Given this amount of information there should be enough to expand this article rather than to delete it. 930310 (talk) 17:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]