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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 68.116.98.179 (talk) at 14:09, 14 August 2006 (Abstentionism & Some Misc. Points?). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Expansions

I started this article to fulfill the "Alcohol, Drinking of" entry from Wikipedia:Evangelical Dictionary of Theology project, and I've made it public here in its current form in the hopes that others would contribute to it to make it better. --Flex 16:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to know how prohibitionists address the fact that Jesus drank wine and also that miracle he made at the wedding when he provided it. This is not intended to be a pun, just curious. --217.130.121.152

That will be addressed in time in the article, I trust. My understanding is that prohibitionists take "wine" to be non-fermented grape juice in that (and other) contexts where the text does not explicitly require alcoholic content. --Flex 12:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Title

BTW my english is far from perfect but it sounds better to me "christian views on alcohol" that the current one.

I'd like to second this. "Of" may not be incorrect, but it does sound awkward. --MQDuck
As a native speaker of American English, the current title sounds fine (actually a bit better than "on") to my ear. Perhaps it's British vs. American or some other cultural thing? It should be noted that both "of" and "on" are used in existing article titles such as Views of Palestinian statehood, Sunni view of Ali, Christian views on witchcraft, and Political views on the Macedonian language. I've added a redirect as per WP:MOS#National_varieties_of_English, and I think the title should remain as-is, though I wouldn't be heartbroken if it didn't. --Flex 17:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mormons

I'm no expert on Christianity, so I won't make any edits on the article myself. However, aren't Mormons strict abolishionists? If so, someone might want to mention them. --MQDuck

I hope we can expand this article to include Mormonism and other groups not yet mentioned. --Flex 17:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some would consider the Mormons outside the pale of orthodoxy, but I think it's important to have some mention of their stance.
Also, I'm surpised there is no mention of the Seventh Day Adventists. They are particularily strong teetotalers.
Perhaps there should be a section for the Restorationist church movement (which would include LDS & SDA).

Abstentionism & Some Misc. Points?

I noticed that Baptists were put under this heading. I'm not sure it's completely accurate as the largest US Baptist denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention, is a strictly dry denomination. Many Independent Baptists are too. Conversative Baptists do generally fall under this heading though. American Baptists have fairly liberal theology, so I believe would fall under the moderationist.

Also, many Friends (Quakers), Old Order & Conservative Mennonites and Methodists are dry. The Amish only drink a tiny amount of sweet wine as part of wedding celebrations.

I'll have to double check, but I believe the aforementioned Mennonite groups even have a written standard that opposes drinking.