Talk:Sagara (Hinduism)

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this article is intended to be a stub. I know nothing about this Sagara, but the name came up while I was disambiguating.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Malangali (talk • contribs) 22:55, August 23, 2006

Vedic king?

Is Sagara a notable figure (or, even mentioned) in any of the Vedas? As far as I can figure, he appears only in the Mahabharata and the Puranas, and the article therefore needs to be renamed. Any suggestions on alternate titles: Sagara (Hinduism), Sagara (mythology), Sagara (Suryavanshi), ...? Pinging @Redtigerxyz: for input. Abecedare (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Abecedare: Not sure if he is in the Vedas. G. S. Ghurye does consider him a Vedic king and mentions him in his "Vedic India". --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 09:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I guess the "Vedic" is a reference to his era or dynasty, and not the sources. In any case, if he has been referred t as such, best to retain the article under the current name. Abecedare (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Listed for over a month and ultimately unopposed. Jenks24 (talk) 11:32, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sagara (Vedic king) → King Sagara – Vedic not required -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:12, 21 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 23:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I am not averse to a rename per se (see my comment above), but don't think King Sagara is the best name either, given that that is not he is referred in sources I have seen, and wikipedia guidelines on honorifics and royal titles (do they apply to mythological figures too?). Abecedare (talk) 15:29, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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PAHLAVAS AND YAVANAS:

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Please do not confuse the Palhavas/Pallavas with Pahlavas in a deliberate bid to mislead and tie up the pre-Ramayanam, Ramayanam, Mahabharatam periods with the Iranians. Likewise, the Yavannas are being referred to as Greeks because somebody baselessly said that the Yavannas could poosible be the Ionians. The Mahabharatam ( it's not Mahabharata) dates as per Hindu astronomical tradition to about 3200 BC and the Ramayanam ( it's not Ramayana)dates likewise to about 7200 BCE. The Sagara king period pre-dates Rama by several milleniia, and yes, there were humans and civlizations present then in ancient India! C'mon guys, this is an encyclopedia and not a junior school class spinning fairy tales, that ties up Hindu events and chronology to Iranian and Greek events, so that Indian pre-history is written to accomodate Western (Greek and Iranian) understanding of civilization development and time-lines! It appears that anything that pre-dates the Sumerian period is just not acceptable to the so-called Western centric scholars of Indian history!