Talk:Woman in the Dunes
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something really needs to be done about the wiki search. i entered "woman in the dunes" into the search tool. i got no results. because i used lowercase letters. but not only did the "GO" button NOT direct me to the article, the SEARCH TOOL doesn't even come up with any hits or results. this is disgraceful. the wiki search is terrible. i've had other similar experiences: sometimes i can't even find a wiki that I'VE ALREADY READ BEFORE because i'm using a slightly slightly wrong title. for example, if you insert a middle name into a subjects first/last name, the search tool won't find it. it's really shameful, for an online encyclopedia.
- Due to the rapidly increasing levels of traffic that Wikipedia attracts, it is sometimes necessary to disable the search tool in order to improve performance. As Wikimedia purchases more computer hardware, this should becoma less of a problem in the near future. Rje 15:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Book or Movie
I think the synopsis needs to clarify if it is speaking of the book or movie, because there are plot differences to the two stories. I don't have a clear memory of the story to say with confidence that they entry is correct for both of them.
- The synopsis refers to the movie only, I wrote the section and have not read the book. We should include a further section detailing differences between the two, although obviously I am unable to dothis myself. I changed the section title to make it clear that the synopsis is of the film. Rje 15:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I have read the novel, what can I do? 124.9.0.3 (talk) 14:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- The novel is separately notable, and requires its own article, with information on the Japanese edition and any and all English translations.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 17:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Summary Inaccurate
"At the end of the film Junpei gets his chance to escape, but he chooses to prolong his stay in the dune, in part because the woman is already pregnant with his child." That last clause isn't stated in the film; it's the article's inference, at best. The film makes the decision to stay seem absurd, as if Junpei has come to prefer his life in the pit. Perhaps the novel makes the point about the child, but if so, then the film chooses to omit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.66.85.99 (talk) 13:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I concur. In the film, one of the village people says that female has an ectopic pregnancy--if this is so, then the fetus would die and, given the poor conditions of the village and the late detection of the problem, it's possible the female's life is at risk as well. As a scientist, Junpei would know this, so his decision to stay in the dune is probably not based on a belief that he's going to be raising a child. I went ahead and deleted the inaccuracy from the entry.
Requested move 16 December 2015
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The result of the move request was: MOVING ' In progress' TheJack15 (talk) 10:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
The Woman in the Dunes (film) → Woman in the Dunes (film) – The Woman in the Dunes is the book. Woman in the Dunes is the film. Similar so still needs "(film)". Film Fan 22:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed. In which case, The Woman in the Dunes (novel) should be moved to The Woman in the Dunes, which is now a disambiguation page. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:54, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support, but don't remove (novel) from the novel (砂の女 Suna no Onna, "Sand woman") various English renderings. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:29, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- In ictu oculi—That doesn't make any sense:
- Wikipedia never disambiguates when there is no other existing page with the same title—after this article is retitled, there will be no other article title "The Woman in the Dunes"
- The novel has never been translated as "Sand Woman", "Woman of Sand", or anything other than "The Woman of the Dunes".
- Even if there were multiple titles for the translation, that would never be an argument for disambiguation (see point #1).
- Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yes Wikipedia does, all the time. See Hurricane. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:04, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- In ictu oculi: ??? Uh ... what on earth was that supposed to have demonstrated? Are you following the conversation at all? Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT + My longer point is that when "The" is not used or not used consistently for (the) Woman in the Dunes (film/novel) there's no benefit to readers is removing (novel). In ictu oculi (talk) 12:07, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I misread the request as a move to an undisambiguated title. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:03, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- And WP:SMALLDETAILS also applies. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 14:28, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- No, that applies explicitly to titles that are "typographically near-identical". Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:03, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT + My longer point is that when "The" is not used or not used consistently for (the) Woman in the Dunes (film/novel) there's no benefit to readers is removing (novel). In ictu oculi (talk) 12:07, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- In ictu oculi: ??? Uh ... what on earth was that supposed to have demonstrated? Are you following the conversation at all? Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yes Wikipedia does, all the time. See Hurricane. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:04, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- In ictu oculi—That doesn't make any sense:
- Support and the novel per In ictu oculi. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 13:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- Move to Woman in the Dunes, and move the novel to The Woman in the Dunes. In the spirit of WP:TWODABS, these two articles have related but distinct titles, meaning a dab page is unnecessary. Disambiguation can be better handled with hat notes than by sending all readers searching for either title to a dead end.--Cúchullain t/c 17:11, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support the proposed small details presented by Cuchullain 75.140.118.112 (talk) 06:32, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: @Jenks24, the consensus is for the move. If the other suggestion is supported that can be discussed in a new RM. Film Fan 17:58, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Move the film article to Woman in the Dunes and the novel article to The Woman in the Dunes, per Cúchullain. There's no point in having two move requests (and two moves). Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support the proposed small details presented by Cuchullain even though my nomination is different because I don't really care either way. Film Fan 00:37, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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