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Retiring as Judge

So after two years as a WikiCup judge, I've decided to stand down. It's been a fun ride, and I've very much enjoyed the work that the competitors from this year and last have put out. So a big thank you to J and Ed, as well as Sturm and Figureskatingfan for being a joy to work with, as well as Jarry for keeping that bot going (I don't know where we'd be without it). But as well, a big thank you to all the competitors, without whom there wouldn't be a cup. Miyagawa (talk) 21:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for everything you've done and good luck!--Godot13 (talk) 01:59, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for all of your efforts. When Ed and I stepped down, we placed a lot on your shoulders; I'm glad we had you to rely on. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:31, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Miyagawa: what J said. Great work. The Cup will miss you. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:52, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all - don't worry, I'll still be around on Wiki. I've decided specifically not to compete in 2016 because I want to concentrate on the 2016 Olympics work and the Star Trek 50th anniversary. Yep, I'm a nerd. ;) However, if the judges go for my "Champions of Champions" 2016 WikiCup featuring the return of as many finalists and judges from the first ten years of the cup, then I'll certainly be back for that. Miyagawa (talk) 15:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Miyagawa: I'd compete in that. I'd lose horribly, but I'd compete. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 07:29, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Something different in 2016

Based on a mutual understanding (and in consultation with the judges), Cwmhiraeth and I have agreed to compete in the 2016 Wikicup and retire at the end of the fourth round (if either or both of us are still in the game). In addition, any advancement during the first three rounds of the competition will not effectively take a spot from another player. To make this very clear: 1) we would compete and are subject to elimination if we are not among any given pool’s top eight players. If we score in the top eight for a given pool, the ninth place finisher would advance as well. If we do not score in the top eight for a given pool, only eight will advance. 2) At the end of the fourth round (provided either or both of us passed through round three), we will retire from the 2016 Cup, regardless of score.--Godot13 (talk) 17:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok- so we're clear, you're going to be (sort of) competing and acting as a judge? Josh Milburn (talk) 17:30, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just to restate: I can neither win nor deprive anyone of advancement at any stage. So, yes.--Godot13 (talk) 18:08, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not orthodox, but if that's needed to keep you motivated and it won't deprive non-judges of a spot ... why not. I would, however, be prepared to drop out earlier if a dispute arises. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:52, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Though my mind may be playing tricks on me, I seem to remember that we did something similar years ago- there was a separate table for the judges, who had their own competition. If I recall, it was removed after a couple of rounds so as not to distract from the main competition. Josh Milburn (talk) 00:04, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your mind isn't playing tricks. I remember that too, and now you have me digging through the archives to find evidence of it. G loss 04:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But on the topic of "what we used to do", I found this poster that we used to have every cup, and I'm having crazy flashbacks. That poster caused sleepless nights. G loss 04:05, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Found something, in "from the judges"! :) G loss 04:15, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This year's WikiCup theme is "Waiting for Godot to Drop Out" Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think you forgot to link that. ;) Miyagawa (talk) 23:17, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Score table oops

It appears the latest edit to remove Peer Reviews from the score table on the main wikicup page also removed the fact that the last column is 4 points for GA reviews. Right now it seems to indicate that GAs are both worth 35 points and 4 points. To avoid the appearance of impropriety, I as a contestant, don't feel like I should be changing the score table this close to the start of the competition. Could one of the judges please correct this minor issue? Thanks 1bandsaw (talk) 21:59, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:48, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where am I?

Just had a look at the 2016 table and I noticed that I am not on it. I am fairly sure I had put myself down to take part (in fact I was the 4th person to sign up!) so can I ask why am I not on the board? Am I suddenly a judge and not been told? ;) The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 00:20, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The C of E God Save the Queen! - Looking into it (because your submissions page was made)...--Godot13 (talk) 00:30, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You have been found.--Godot13 (talk) 00:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect name

Hello! Would anyone be able to fix my name on the table and move my submission page, please? Both have me listed as YMJ94. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure about the policies around that, so I thought I would let the judges know. Thank you! MJ94 (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it was my mistake. Oops. Thank you in advance for fixing it! :) MJ94 (talk) 22:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

MJ94 - Fixed.--Godot13 (talk) 17:50, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How the judges will oversee the points table

Last year, I placed my name in this competition but was inactive throughout contest. This time I will try my best. One thing I want to clear out is how the judges will be able to cope out with the contributions of the participants and establish their positions? Thanks in advance. Ikhtiar H (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is a bot which picks up the articles you list on your submission page and then automatically updates the table. The order in which the table is listed doesn't change, but you can sort it by the score as with any sortable table. Miyagawa (talk) 16:28, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Remind me: When can work have started?

There has to be substantial work after Jan 1, right? So I can't claim Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Your Motherland Will Never Forget even though it will close this year, because I finished work on it on the 27th of December, but can claim Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Women of Britain Say - "Go!" as the work on it finished today, and could, in future, claim File:Philippe Chaperon - Rigoletto - Original.jpg, because, while work on that commenced in 2015, substantial work will still be needed this year to finish the restoration.

Is my understanding correct? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 18:00, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That would be my understanding. "Substantial work" within 2016, which allows for some work before 2016 (so you can expand previously existing articles, etc) but if the only work was responding to a previously started nomination, it wouldn't count. (I won't be counting Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Monroe Edwards/archive1 because I will not have done "substantial" work on it in 2016 (even though I'll probably be editing it in response to FAC concerns). Ealdgyth - Talk 18:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds about right, the key being substantial work in 2016...--Godot13 (talk) 19:37, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So then the submission Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2016/Submissions/SSTflyer should be disallowed as no work was done in 2016? Neekeem (talk) 21:23, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]