Talk:Super Smash Bros. (video game)

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smashwiki says

Dragon King: The Fighting Game was supposed be the first installment in a planned series of fighting video games for the Nintendo 64, with the game also being designed to make unique use of the joystick on the controller; unlike other games which took advantage of the analogue stick, like Super Mario 64 or The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Sakurai wanted to see how he could use it in a multiplayer environment. Sakurai was also interested in creating a fighting game experience that involved four players fighting at once, instead of the standard one-on-one format seen in most of the era's fighting games. During preliminary development for the game, however, Sakurai felt that the game lacked the appropriate atmosphere for a fighting game on a home console, stating that the characters he had planned for inclusion in the game seemed too similar to one another; while he thought this would be acceptable in an arcade setting, he felt that games for home consoles would need better depth in order to captivate its audience. As a result, Sakurai scrapped most of the original concepts for the game and instead added elements from multiple existing Nintendo franchises. The game was ultimately retooled into Super Smash Bros., which became an unexpected success; the game later spawned a successful series of games, with multiple new installments having since been released. Valehd (talk) 23:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

SmashWiki isn't considered a reliable source. TheMeaningOfBlah (talk) 15:37, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

but that paragraph is true Valehd (talk) 16:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Translation of title

From my user talk page:

Then the Super Smash Bros. (video game) article should be changed to "Fray" as well. The point is that the translated series name doesn't conflict with the English name of one of the games in the series. An article being denoted a good article doesn't necessarily mean all translations in the article are optimal. Zowayix001 (talk) 02:44, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't find "conflicting with the English name" to be a compelling reason, given that it's not the English name, but the English translation of the Japanese name with which we are dealing. Regards being a GA, it seems preferable to keep the current translation since that name has undergone quality review (though I agree any particular fact in the article may be sub-optimally worded, placed, etc--it is still a wiki). I will ping WT:VG. --Izno (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

What do secondary sources call it? Also the whole Japanese portion of the lede should be relegated to a footnote—it isn't known by its Japanese name at all in English-speaking places and the first sentence of the lede is prime real estate. czar 18:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Not likely to have a good answer to the first question; no opinion on the second point. --Izno (talk) 18:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

There's WP:USEENGLISH and WP:NCVG. Even if the "correct" translation is Fray, we go by sources. I don't recall seeing any WP:RS ever calling the game Fray. Changing seems WP:OR. --Soetermans. T / C 20:45, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't believe there's an official source citing an English translation of the Japanese name. I'm getting "Fray" from the translation the SmashWiki (ssbwiki.com) consistently uses, and I've seen that translation used many times before prior to knowing about that site. I have never ever seen "Great Melee" used before, and it's still visually jarring to see the same word used as in "Super Smash Bros. Melee" (almost always abbreviated "Melee" when talking about that one game itself). Zowayix001 (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)