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WAKA Lawsuit

The lawsuit between WAKA LLC v. DCKickball [1] could be mentioned in an article about WAKA but it doesn't belong in this article which is only about the sport/game of Kickball (not in-depth about specific leagues and/or governing bodies). Here are my arguments for this viewpoint:

a) The lawsuit is just a claim at this point. No ruling has been made yet.
b) The lawsuit (which sounds pretty much frivolous) and is unlikely to have any affect on the game outside of those two litigants. It won't affect the game of kickball, which is the subject of this article.
c) There are thousands of independent kickball leagues around the United States and probably the world. I play in a non-WAKA league. WAKA doesn't own the game itself.

Fife Club 17:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As it states when editing the article, Wikipedia is not a search engine nor is it a website directory service. Please do not list sites that are not of significant value to this article on the game/sport of kickball.

Just because you have an adult kickball league does not mean you can add links to your website in this article so you get more internet traffic. That is spam and is not allowed on Wikipedia. The link to WAKA is justified because they are a legitimate subject of the article and/or have made an impact on the game (or if not, at least that point could be intelligently argued). By the way, I don't work for nor play in any WAKA league. Additional websites may or may not be appropriate for adding to the external links but no other individual leagues should be added unless the subject has some sort of a significant impact on the game. Remember this is an encyclopedia article on the sport of kickball (origins, equipment, rules, etc.), not a place for free publicity for for-profit adult leagues. Fife Club 21:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just start an article specifically on WAKA, apart from the kickball article? Amnewsboy 09:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That would be fine. All you have to do to start one is click that red link in the article (not the external link). I haven't done it myself because I don't know enough about WAKA to write more than a few sentences. However that doesn't mean that WAKA shouldn't still be mentioned in the Kickball article too. I'm not the one who put WAKA in there in the first place but it is justified content. Aside from being the largest Kickball league, they honestly did pretty much launch the idea of having adult leagues in the first place (a true fact that I actually deemphasized to try to make it a more neutral article in hopes that competing leagues wouldn't feel the need to vandalize the article any more - a hope that hasn't worked out.)Fife Club 13:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ball size

The main article describes balls from 10- to 16-inches. Balls from 5 inches to 16 inches are commercially available, but all the sources I've checked agree that 8.5 inches is the standard size. I play in an adult league and we use an 8.5 inch ball. OlYeller 16:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adult leagues are free to make up what ever rules they want (despite WAKA's claims to "own" the game) so there are no universal rules. For what it's worth, my league plays with 15" and I've bought 12" for the team to warm up with. From trips to the sporting goods store I'm under the impression that 8.5" balls are primarily intended for kids so I'd agree with the 10-16" statement in the article but like I said, there really aren't any rules so anything is possible. If you feel the need you can add a statement about 'other sizes can be used as well' but IMHO I wouldn't expand the range of numbers considered normal sizes. Just my 2cents. Fife Club 13:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


==kickball vs. soccer++

I have heard the term "kickball" used as a derogatory term for a soccer strategy that emphasises long, often aimless kicks downfield rather than any attempt at aimed passing; but never as a general term for soccer itself. Any citations for this perported usage? Perhaps it is a regional usage? Wschart 19:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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